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Athens · Aug 6, 2005, 05:21 AM

With the Pot/Hash post I decided to do a poll.

Ive seperated it by American and Not American because I think the veiw of pot around the world is much different then in the US.

Note Canadians and Mexicans are in the NOT AMERICAN catagory. American is for pure bread Americans, not those born in other countries that now live there either.

storer · Aug 6, 2005, 06:47 AM

Haha, no American has said "No."

andreas_g4 · Aug 6, 2005, 07:00 AM

Most stuff that doesn't require a needle to use.

Athens · Aug 6, 2005, 07:01 AM

Originally Posted by storer

Haha, no American has said "No."

I know im shocked

but its early wait until the mass hords of MacNNers come on im sure it will change.

Warung · Aug 6, 2005, 07:08 AM

Smoked pot from 1985 to 1995 (at the time I was American...so I'm not sure what to check...

).

IIrc

I did most of my smoking between 1988 and 1990 (up to 20 joints a day...) in Germany (Holland once).

Doing pot in the US was a completely different experience (more bongs and pipes than joints), but I had some great "cross cultural" toking experiences.

Awesome times!

d.fine · Aug 6, 2005, 07:13 AM

Never have, never will...

ghporter · Aug 6, 2005, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by storer

Haha, no American has said "No."

I fixed that. Never saw a need-primarily since all the pot users I saw in high school were a combination of losers and low-lifes. I'm sure that's a skewed view, but at the time (mid-1970s) it fit great. After that my job specifically prohibited such experimentation, so I've managed to grow up without such experiences.

Since then, I've met people who may use it, but there's just no big desire in me to try.

OwlBoy · Aug 6, 2005, 07:38 AM

I have Glaucoma… so when I tell people that they always ask me if I smoke da pot…

heh

-Owl

xi_hyperon · Aug 6, 2005, 10:06 AM

A few times at the university, but honestly, it didn't do much for me. Jim and Jack were my party friends of choice during those years.

SVass · Aug 6, 2005, 10:07 AM

I am an American and would never answer the question; because I may want to run for a political office some day or be appointed to some high office. Either yes or no might upset someone who has a voice. sam

Kevin · Aug 6, 2005, 10:08 AM

I used to be a big pot head. Did it every day. There wasn't a time I didn't have at least a ounce on me.

I haven't really messed with it in years in that way.

I have however took a few tokes to get my stomach problems to go away. But you really don't get "stoned" that way.

ort888 · Aug 6, 2005, 10:25 AM

I has smoked pot.

wdlove · Aug 6, 2005, 10:27 AM

I've never smoked pot. No illegal drugs at all.

Ghoser777 · Aug 6, 2005, 10:45 AM

No pot for me.

Scandalous Ion Cannon · Aug 6, 2005, 11:00 AM

Wow, so far Americans YES is winning and it is the most illegal there

Kevin · Aug 6, 2005, 11:03 AM

There is also MORE Americans here than anyone else.

How about that coincidink?

The funny thing is, I think the author expected the opposite.

moodymonster · Aug 6, 2005, 11:10 AM

UK MPs who have said they've smoked the weed:

http://www.ccguide.org.uk/mpsmoker.php

Letwin (shadow home secretary) said he had tried the drug only by accident while at Cambridge University, because friends mixed some cannabis in with his pipe tobacco. "I was extremely cross about it," Letwin said last night.

spatterson · Aug 6, 2005, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by SVass

I am an American and would never answer the question; because I may want to run for a political office some day or be appointed to some high office. Either yes or no might upset someone who has a voice. sam

So you have... LOL

suvsr4terrorists · Aug 6, 2005, 11:22 AM

I believe you were trying to say, "Who here HAS smoked pot"

EDIT: Nevermind. I'll be nice. But I think I've met more intelligent... aashshasdflljkadsf. I'm done.

meelk · Aug 6, 2005, 12:00 PM

People who need artificial substances to get "high" are pathetic. I dont smoke, I dont drink, I dont do drugs. Why cant people enjoy being themselves and enjoy the world around them?

Kevin · Aug 6, 2005, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by meelk

People who need artificial substances to get "high" are pathetic. I dont smoke, I dont drink, I dont do drugs. Why cant people enjoy being themselves and enjoy the world around them?

So people don't do it to get high. Some people have bodies that don't make enough chemicals to keep the naturally "high"

Make any sense?

Secret__Police · Aug 6, 2005, 12:11 PM

I have not smoked any in almost 7 years.

meelk · Aug 6, 2005, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

So people don't do it to get high. Some people have bodies that don't make enough chemicals to keep the naturally "high"

Make any sense?

no, because your body doesnt produce the substances in pot anyway. stop using psuedo-medicine for an excuse.

Kevin · Aug 6, 2005, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by meelk

no, because your body doesnt produce the substances in pot anyway.

No, you are correct. But pot does release those substances and make them more active.

stop using psuedo-medicine for an excuse.

Not using an excuse. I'm not a pot smoker.

But people will do what they have to, to get by.

You'll find most drug ABUSERS aren't doing it just to "get high"

It's the occasional users that do that.

badidea · Aug 6, 2005, 12:26 PM

I smoke pot since 1989 and I still do...

@SVass: Is the name someone has to vote for when you run for a political office really SVass, or do you have a different name in the real world?

Warung · Aug 6, 2005, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by meelk

I dont smoke, I dont drink, I dont do drugs.

Looks like you don't do apostrophes either.

*SCNR*

meelk · Aug 6, 2005, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

No, you are correct. But pot does release those substances and make them more active.

You should try reading up on and understanding pot before you go making statements like that. The "high" of pot comes from THC bindings. Pot has a variety of detrimental effects as well, there is no "up side" beyond it makes people stupid enough to use it "feel good" for awhile. I dont even feel sorry for people who lead such shallow, pathetic lives that they have to use pot to feel better.

meelk · Aug 6, 2005, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Warung

Looks like you don't do apostrophes either.

*SCNR*

yes. too bad its a forum on the internet and I dont really give a **** about putting them in.

Kevin · Aug 6, 2005, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by meelk

You should try reading up on and understanding pot before you go making statements like that.

Oh I have. Why do you make factual statements about things you have no facts on?

The "high" of pot comes from THC bindings.

Really? Is that where it comes from? THC? Who'd have thunk!

THC causes the brain to release a chemical that makes you feel "high."

This chemical is released differently in everyone.

Some people have a lack of it being released. These people are usually the drug abusers.

Pot has a variety of detrimental effects as well, there is no "up side" beyond it makes people stupid enough to use it "feel good" for awhile.

You have no idea what you are talking about. Tell that to someone that is in sever pain because of glaucoma.

I dont even feel sorry for people who lead such shallow, pathetic lives that they have to use pot to feel better.

The only person I see being shallow is you. Really. It has nothing to do with people being shallow.

You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about.

I don't think pot is the answer. Not even close.

I am just giving the REASON people do it.

suvsr4terrorists · Aug 6, 2005, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by meelk

. I dont even feel sorry for people who lead such shallow, pathetic lives that they have to use pot to feel better.

>shrug<

I feel sorry for shallow meek individuals who let the government tell them what's right and wrong. I suppose native americans were pathetic too. And all the people in india using a hookah. Yep. Whenever people smoke pot, they're pathetic.

Kevin · Aug 6, 2005, 12:41 PM

Originally Posted by suvsr4terrorists

>shrug<

I feel sorry for shallow meek individuals who let the government tell them what's right and wrong. I suppose native americans were pathetic too. And all the people in india using a hookah. Yep. Whenever people smoke pot, they're pathetic.

I don't think any one substance is bad. ANY SUBSTANCE can be bad if it is the center of your life.

I think that is the message.

Too many people make pot the center of their life. Ask the to say, go to a movie one day when they are out of pot. No interest unless pot is involved.

Not talking about the occasional user.

badidea · Aug 6, 2005, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Too many people make pot the center of their life. Ask the to say, go to a movie one day when they are out of pot. No interest unless pot is involved.

I agree that this sounds stupid but there actually are some movies that can be quite annoying without pot but can also be great fun if you smoked it (Cheech& Chong for example)!

suvsr4terrorists · Aug 6, 2005, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I don't think any one substance is bad. ANY SUBSTANCE can be bad if it is the center of your life.

I think that is the message.

Too many people make pot the center of their life. Ask the to say, go to a movie one day when they are out of pot. No interest unless pot is involved.

Not talking about the occasional user.

Agreed. A relative in my family (husband of wife's relative) is addicted to Mountain Dew. He has it all the time, everyday. It's disgusting. He's gained a lot of weight, and he might get diabetes like another guy I know.

Kevin · Aug 6, 2005, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by badidea

I agree that this sounds stupid but there actually are some movies that can be quite annoying without pot but can also be great fun if you smoked it (Cheech& Chong for example)!

Yes, but I am speaking about any movie.

I had a friend that would not go to see ANY movie unless there was pot involved.

While I was a pothead, I was never that bad.

meelk · Aug 6, 2005, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by suvsr4terrorists

>shrug<

I feel sorry for shallow meek individuals who let the government tell them what's right and wrong. I suppose native americans were pathetic too. And all the people in india using a hookah. Yep. Whenever people smoke pot, they're pathetic.

oh please. I love the justification that pot users have to put into everything. "well so and so does it" "dont let the goverment tell you its wrong" blah blah blah. I dont drink for exactly the same reasons I dont do pot. I dont need or want artificial stimulation. People who try to justify pots use for medical purposes make me laugh as well. Get a grip.
The fact of the matter is people in general are pathetic and cant even cope with their own lives and problems and "need" to "get away" or "get high" to feel better instead of just damn standing up and living their lives.
I spit on pot smokers.

Kevin · Aug 6, 2005, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by suvsr4terrorists

Agreed. A relative in my family (husband of wife's relative) is addicted to Mountain Dew. He has it all the time, everyday. It's disgusting. He's gained a lot of weight, and he might get diabetes like another guy I know.

Exactly. In his case MD is his drug of choice.

He is probably highly addicted to caffeine. And the feeling of carbonation tickling his throat.

It's a relaxation ritual.

Like those that smoke. Aren't just addicted to the nicotine. But the actual event of inhaling smoke.

When I quit smoking cigs, that was the hardest craving I had to get over.

Some herion addicts get addicted to actually poking themselves with needles.

Kevin · Aug 6, 2005, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by meelk

oh please. I love the justification that pot users have to put into everything. "well so and so does it" "dont let the goverment tell you its wrong" blah blah blah. I dont drink for exactly the same reasons I dont do pot. I dont need or want artificial stimulation. People who try to justify pots use for medical purposes make me laugh as well. Get a grip.

I am not a pot head. And I am not trying to justify anything. What's your excuse?

I am telling you WHY people do it.

The fact of the matter is people in general are pathetic and cant even cope with their own lives and problems and "need" to "get away" or "get high" to feel better instead of just damn standing up and living their lives.
I spit on pot smokers.

If you are an example of what it means to be free of drugs, and high on life,

No wonder there are so many druggies out there.

What is with all the hate?

You aren't perfect.

I bet you have your own little vices.

Ozmodiar · Aug 6, 2005, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by meelk

oh please. I love the justification that pot users have to put into everything. "well so and so does it" "dont let the goverment tell you its wrong" blah blah blah. I dont drink for exactly the same reasons I dont do pot. I dont need or want artificial stimulation. People who try to justify pots use for medical purposes make me laugh as well. Get a grip.
The fact of the matter is people in general are pathetic and cant even cope with their own lives and problems and "need" to "get away" or "get high" to feel better instead of just damn standing up and living their lives.
I spit on pot smokers.

You Need to Masturbate™

meelk · Aug 6, 2005, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I am not a pot head. And I am not trying to justify anything. What's your excuse?

I am telling you WHY people do it.

If you are an example of what it means to be free of drugs, and high on life,

No wonder there are so many druggies out there.

What is with all the hate?

You aren't perfect.

I bet you have your own little vices.

Whats with all the hate? I hate that people cannot stand up and make society better, and instead have to wallow in their own little drug induced pits, thats what I hate. If you arent part of the solution, you are part of the problem, and people doing drugs are part of the problem, end of story.

Kevin · Aug 6, 2005, 01:03 PM

And people thought *I* was uptight.

Kevin · Aug 6, 2005, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by meelk

Whats with all the hate? I hate that people cannot stand up and make society better, and instead have to wallow in their own little drug induced pits, thats what I hate. If you arent part of the solution, you are part of the problem, and people doing drugs are part of the problem, end of story.

I would say the inability to put yourself in other person's shoes is the problem.

Hey you! Fools don't fit in
The boots that I tread in

I am very anti-making-drugs-the-center-of-your-life.

badidea · Aug 6, 2005, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Yes, but I am speaking about any movie.
I had a friend that would not go to see ANY movie unless there was pot involved.

Agreed - that's really stupid!

Originally Posted by Kevin

And people thought *I* was uptight.

Warung · Aug 6, 2005, 01:20 PM

Originally Posted by badidea

Agreed - that's really stupid!

What's strange is that during the time I smoked up the most, I only hung out around stoners. And the only movies they ever watched were "drug related".

Back then I never paid it any mind, and up until right now, I thought this had more to do with the movies (for the most part) being comedies...

suvsr4terrorists · Aug 6, 2005, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by meelk

Whats with all the hate? I hate that people cannot stand up and make society better, and instead have to wallow in their own little drug induced pits, thats what I hate. If you arent part of the solution, you are part of the problem, and people doing drugs are part of the problem, end of story.

The most intelligent and successful people I know smoke pot on occasion. The most mundane unspecial boring people I don't care about at all are the people who never smoke, drink, or have fun. What's your favorite TV series?

Y3a · Aug 6, 2005, 01:29 PM

Used to.

DON'T ANYMORE!!

So you spend a couple hunderd buck on a 'good ounce'.
Ya smoke it up in 2-3 weeks.
Then ya get another,
and another,
AND ANOTHER.

Soon It's been 20 years of feeling fine,
with NOTHING TO SHOW FOR IT.

20 oz/year at $125 each = $2500.00 X 20 years = $50,000.00.

Add in the gas to get it from yer connection,
stuff to smoke it in,
screens,
and a few sifters to get the sticks n seeds out.

Yer gonna need 6-9 months to get it out of yer system to pass a drug test.

Had you been going to school with the time and money,
you would be doing LOTS BETTER
than the typical 20+ year user.

Kevin · Aug 6, 2005, 01:30 PM

Originally Posted by suvsr4terrorists

The most intelligent and successful people I know smoke pot on occasion. The most mundane unspecial boring people I don't care about at all are the people who never smoke, drink, or have fun. What's your favorite TV series?

Now Rob that was about as equally silly.

You are acting just like him, but taking the opposite stance.

screamingFit · Aug 6, 2005, 01:30 PM

I smoke everyday.

Beats having to take mood-altering prespcription drugs for psychological problems. And cheaper, too!

Zenbone · Aug 6, 2005, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by meelk

oh please. I love the justification that pot users have to put into everything. "well so and so does it" "dont let the goverment tell you its wrong" blah blah blah. I dont drink for exactly the same reasons I dont do pot. I dont need or want artificial stimulation. People who try to justify pots use for medical purposes make me laugh as well. Get a grip.
The fact of the matter is people in general are pathetic and cant even cope with their own lives and problems and "need" to "get away" or "get high" to feel better instead of just damn standing up and living their lives.
I spit on pot smokers.

Somebody needs a doooo-beeeee! C'mere ya little nut, just one li'l hit. It'll do ya good.

moodymonster · Aug 6, 2005, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by screamingFit

I smoke everyday.

Beats having to take mood-altering prespcription drugs for psychological problems. And cheaper, too!

and to the guy, meelk, who disses people "trying to justify its use for medicial purposes" - We know this a public forum and you're not supposed to be an expert but come on… that's just crass. I'm sure you can find some evidence to back up your stance, but you'd be lying if you didn't find information to the contrary.

Chuckit · Aug 6, 2005, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by meelk

oh please. I love the justification that pot users have to put into everything. "well so and so does it" "dont let the goverment tell you its wrong" blah blah blah. I dont drink for exactly the same reasons I dont do pot. I dont need or want artificial stimulation. People who try to justify pots use for medical purposes make me laugh as well. Get a grip.
The fact of the matter is people in general are pathetic and cant even cope with their own lives and problems and "need" to "get away" or "get high" to feel better instead of just damn standing up and living their lives.
I spit on pot smokers.

Do you also spit on people who read books or watch movies because they likewise need to go get an external stimulus for enjoyment?

Seriously, I see no difference between reading a Dave Barry book because it brings me pleasure and smoking pot because it brings me pleasure. They are both not-particularly-productive activities which are nevertheless okay to do in your free time (and even psychologically beneficial compared to doing serious work all the damn time).

Oh, as for me, I have smoked pot, but not in quite a while. Since I'm not going to college anymore, I don't tend to find myself in crowds where it's readily available.