[Salty]

I think that'd be a very good tag line for like... a the more you know or whatever commercial.

Seems society these days is only concerned with being nice to black people and gay people... and we're not even really nice to them... cause to be frank... people are jerks.

[rickey939]

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by Salty

Seems society these days is only concerned with being nice to black people and gay people...

http://www.fabmagazine.com/features/...rs/index.html#

[Kevin]

Yeah this thread is headed places.

[Atomic Rooster]

It's only funny when someone else falls down a manhole.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster

It's only funny when someone else falls down a manhole.

I had a blind friend do that once.

He got a bunch of money out of it however because there are supposed to be barriers around the manhole if it's not covered.

I've never seen the like. The kinds of spills that guy takes.

[dampeoples]

Or gets their fat ass branded by one

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster

It's only funny when someone else falls down a manhole.

What am I missing here?

[lavar78]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

http://www.fabmagazine.com/features/gayhaters/full/pro12.jpg

I don't know what to say.

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by lavar78

I don't know what to say.

This might help:
http://www.fabmagazine.com/features/...full/pro27.jpg

Note, this is not a protest on same sex marriage but a rally against homosexuals themselves.

[ghporter]

The old "rake gag," where someone steps on the tines of a rake and whacks themselves in the head with the handle...that's not funny either. Not only did my dad get a big knot on his forehead, he had the rake go through his foot and needed tetanus shots too.

It's all CONTEXT. If it's a situation where there's comeupance or justice, we allow it to be funny. If it's just some poor schmuck getting hurt, then it isn't (and shouldn't be) funny.

[kmkkid]

Did someone say man hole??!!!


Oh, wait, n/m.

And salty, it's not that people are 'being nice to blacks and gays' now, it's that we are finally becoming accepted. It should never have taken this long in a civilized society.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

This might help:
http://www.fabmagazine.com/features/...full/pro27.jpg

Note, this is not a protest on same sex marriage but a rally against homosexuals themselves.

Yes, hating anyone is bad. Good point.

[DeathMan]

Slapstick is just funny. You react with a laugh, but inside you know there is a lot of pain happening when some kid racks himself trying to grind a rail. Or that lady in the store camera who fell down some type of weird hatch-way.

On Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, one of the laughingest parts was when they were getting smacked by those fly-swatters for having ideas.

[besson3c]

Sorry to be so dense, but would somebody kindly tell me what this thread is supposed to be about?

I'm kind of lost.

[isao bered]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Yes, hating anyone is bad. Good point.

okay. now i'm confused (more confused ;-). i thought we are supposed to hate the "bad guys" and "terrorists".

and if i recall my proverbs correctly loving "god" is the beginning of wisdom. and further, loving "god" is hating evil. so that would make hating the beginning of wisdom.

wait. hating "evil" the beginning of wisdom. so a wise person *must* hate?

hmmmmm...

be well

laeth

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by isao bered

okay. now i'm confused (more confused ;-). i thought we are supposed to hate the "bad guys" and "terrorists".
laeth

It is there way of doing this "Love the sinner hate the sin" as if they can be separated somehow.

Pretty much it is the loophole of not looking hateful.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by isao bered

okay. now i'm confused (more confused ;-). i thought we are supposed to hate the "bad guys" and "terrorists".

and if i recall my proverbs correctly loving "god" is the beginning of wisdom. and further, loving "god" is hating evil. so that would make hating the beginning of wisdom.

wait. hating "evil" the beginning of wisdom. so a wise person *must* hate?

hmmmmm...

be well

laeth

I said hating anyone

[isao bered]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

It is there way of doing this "Love the sinner hate the sin" as if they can be separated somehow.

Pretty much it is the loophole of not looking hateful.

well now you're just not helping at all. ;-) does hallmark make a valentine's card for that? "i don't know how i love you so immeasurably to hate everything about you so much"

if bigotry is assumed to be prejudice founded in ignorance, what is the word for prejudice founded in reason?

laeth

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

It is there way of doing this "Love the sinner hate the sin" as if they can be separated somehow.

No, it's very possible. As a matter of fact, it happens every day!

Pretty much it is the loophole of not looking hateful.

No, your denial is a horrible attempt to project hate where it's simple not there.

It's simply not true.

No more than someone that is against adultery hates heterosexuals. Or married people. Or adults.

I don't know why you must insist hate is involved. If it's a self-defense mechanism for your psyche or what.

BTW according to your logic, you DO hate Christians.

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

Real families should also teach love and acceptance.
Why are these people always living in a state of fear?

Indeed.

It goes both ways. Like it or not. You cannot wave the tolerant "love" flag while you do some hating on your own time.

[isao bered]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I said hating anyone

right. so you're saying we're actually *not* supposed to hate the "bad guys" or the "terrorists".

i'm guessing that means we should just be **loving** al qaeda, fundamental muslim extremists, and iraqi insurgents to death. ;-)

can we measure how much we love one another by how badly we treat each other?

be well.

laeth

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by isao bered

right. so you're saying we're actually *not* supposed to hate the "bad guys" or the "terrorists".

i'm guessing that means we should just be **loving** al qaeda, fundamental muslim extremists, and iraqi insurgents to death. ;-)

Correct. We SHOULD be. That doesn't mean we have to support their actions. Or condone them.

can we measure how much we love one another by how badly we treat each other?

To human is to err.

We all screw up.

Take for example, I don't hate SWF for not liking Christians.

I would wish no ill will towards him.

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by isao bered

right. so you're saying we're actually *not* supposed to hate the "bad guys" or the "terrorists".

i'm guessing that means we should just be **loving** al qaeda, fundamental muslim extremists, and iraqi insurgents to death. ;-)

can we measure how much we love one another by how badly we treat each other?

be well.

laeth

hey they weren't mentioned in the bible. It's the gays that are the real problem. Not all the Christians getting divorces, cheating and having sex before marriage.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

hey they weren't mentioned in the bible.

Yes they were.

It's the gays that are the real problem. Not all the Christians getting divorces, cheating and having sex before marriage.

Who said this? No one. You are making things up again.

Can you not discuss things honestly?

[isao bered]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

hey they weren't mentioned in the bible. It's the gays that are the real problem. Not all the Christians getting divorces, cheating and having sex before marriage.

?! not sure where that's coming from.

i'm more inclined to think that many people have been conditioned to see "hate" as a bad word, but simply substitute "anger" for the same sentiment. then go to support groups to learn how to manage that "anger" so they don't become overstressed by it and drop their brainpans.

personally, i think hatred for appropriate reasons is healthier than "love" for inappropriate reasons (or with nothing more than emotional substance).

i'm still curious about the word for reasoned prejudice.

laeth

[sminch]

I think that'd be a very good tag line for like... a the more you know or whatever commercial.

Seems society these days is only concerned with being nice to black people and gay people... and we're not even really nice to them... cause to be frank... people are jerks.

can i hazard a guess that you've never lived in a place where you were a target of prejudice? would i be pushing my luck to suggest that you're not a member of any kind of minority? am i getting carried away by guessing that none of your friends or family are either?

sminch

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by sminch

can i hazard a guess that you've never lived in a place where you were a target of prejudice? would i be pushing my luck to suggest that you're not a member of any kind of minority?
sminch

He is a former fat dude, white and living in Calgary Canada.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

He is a former fat dude, white and living in Calgary Canada.

Is it ok to make fun of someone for being fat, but not gay?

I am REALLY trying to understand your reasoning here.

[Warung]

Originally Posted by Salty

Seems society these days is only concerned with being nice to black people and gay people...

You're soooo right duuude. In Japan they even get their own line of "groceries" named after them!1!1! (sorry, had to post that somewhere)

/Oh, want some cheese with that whine?

[analogika]

This thread is why the lounge suxx0rs.

[Kevin]

I like Salty, I really do. I just question his choice of thread topics.

It's almost as if he picks topics that he thinks will start a flame.

But rarely posts in his own threads.

Come on Salty, keep it real homey.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by besson3c

Sorry to be so dense, but would somebody kindly tell me what this thread is supposed to be about?

I'm kind of lost.

Salty is hurt because we're not really nice to him even though he's gay.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Salty is hurt because we're not really nice to him even though he's gay.

Is he really gay? Did he come out? I thought he had a GF.

[Chuckit]

Nah, and that's not what this thread is actually about, either. I was intentionally misinterpreting the flamebait.

[Kevin]

Ah.. I was hoping you weren't starting on that lame trend.

[Chuckit]

Gah, you edited your post so my reply stopped making sense!

Anyway, I just wanted to ignore the point, and the bit about "people aren't even really nice to gay people, 'cause people are jerks" stuck out to me.

[Kevin]

I TRY to be nice to everyone. Sometimes the smart-ass in me wins.

I'm not a smart-ass to someone because they is gay, a minority, liberal (ya I know kinda redundant. )

[Salty]

Am I part of a minority? Yah I'm a Christian in Canada. We make up something like less than 7% of the population of Canada. Beyond that I'm a visible Christian, we might even not out number "the gays".
What I was saying that I guess none of you are capable of figuring out is that people are morons and they'll pick on everyone else for being different or something, but then they get mad when the same thing happens to them that they've been doing to everyone else. For example SWG, hates Christians more than I think any Christian I've met hates gay people. Mainly for them it's fear because they don't understand. For him, he understands probably more than your average Christian understands him yet still will go out of his way to express his deep hatred for Christians at any chance.
Look at things like that post by Athens, I'm sure he wouldn't like it if someone were mocking the foundation for how he views life, but he's entirely comfortable doing it and disrespecting other people. I find this sort of behaviour disgusting. It requires the same heart as hating gays, hating blacks, hating or mistreating anyone. You have to decide that you're better than they are.

[Kevin]

Salty it's called being a hypocrite.

These people think being open minded and "forward thinking" means agreeing and liking people that think just like them.

While no one is perfect, it happens far too often. By the same people. Usually in the same thread.

I can tolerate a lot from someone that I know is at least TRYING.

When someone isn't even trying. Or attempting to make an honest rant. I really have no respect for that person.

And the intent of the post becomes obvious.

[Salty]

Originally Posted by Kevin

And the intent of the post becomes obvious.

Frankly I thought the point was pretty obvious from the start...

[kmkkid]

Double Post

[kmkkid]

Originally Posted by Salty

Am I part of a minority? Yah I'm a Christian in Canada. We make up something like less than 7% of the population of Canada.

Do you always pull percentages out of your ass?


About 70% of all Canadians are Christian, either protestant, or roman catholic, and only 16% or so of Canadians are Agnostic. ( http://www12.statcan.ca/english/cens...rel/canada.cfm 2001 census)

Get your facts straight.

[- - e r i k - -]

Originally Posted by DeathMan

Slapstick is just funny. You react with a laugh, but inside you know there is a lot of pain happening when some kid racks himself trying to grind a rail. Or that lady in the store camera who fell down some type of weird hatch-way.

On Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy, one of the laughingest parts was when they were getting smacked by those fly-swatters for having ideas.

It's initially funny because of the slapstick part. Then you delve into the whole deeper meaning of why they are getting slapped and it becomes a whole lot more funnier.

[Warung]

Well folks this whole thread can be neatly summed up in one little sentence:

"History matters!"

...and no amount of conservative "get over it" and "all of this is in the past" (well, when reading all of these threads at MacNN one notices that it actually isn't) yahoo matters.

If Christians kept their religion out of science, politics and civic life none of this would be happening "right now". It's really kind of sad because a lot of them have the potential to be very nice and interesting people...

[SimpleLife]

Originally Posted by Salty

Am I part of a minority? Yah I'm a Christian in Canada. We make up something like less than 7% of the population of Canada.

w00T????

Not according to these guys:religioustolerance.org.

Beyond that I'm a visible Christian, we might even not out number "the gays".
What I was saying that I guess none of you are capable of figuring out is that people are morons and they'll pick on everyone else for being different or something, but then they get mad when the same thing happens to them that they've been doing to everyone else. For example SWG, hates Christians more than I think any Christian I've met hates gay people. Mainly for them it's fear because they don't understand. For him, he understands probably more than your average Christian understands him yet still will go out of his way to express his deep hatred for Christians at any chance.
Look at things like that post by Athens, I'm sure he wouldn't like it if someone were mocking the foundation for how he views life, but he's entirely comfortable doing it and disrespecting other people. I find this sort of behaviour disgusting. It requires the same heart as hating gays, hating blacks, hating or mistreating anyone. You have to decide that you're better than they are.

Maybe you should take it with them then.

If you cannot take any type of criticism, your Faith is pretty light; time to shake the dust from your sandals and move on...

[isao bered]

Originally Posted by Warung

Well folks this whole thread can be neatly summed up in one little sentence:

"History matters!"

<snip>
If Christians kept their religion out of science, politics and civic life none of this would be happening "right now".

?! i suppose you're right, just not in the way it *seems* you meant it. ;-) if the faithful and/or religious (of any faith really, but particularly judeo/christian for western civilization) had remained cloistered and none of their values had seeped into and thus driven society i *suppose* we could still be subject to a pantheism where both natural phenomena and the current ruler were revered and feared as gods. not that that is necessarily a bad thing... ;-)

be well.

laeth

p.s.
this is an attempt at sarcasm. however, much like this lounge, my sarcasm frequently sucks. ;-)

[Stradlater]

Originally Posted by Salty

Seems society these days is only concerned with being nice to black people and gay people...

Wait, so who's the bigot?

[Stradlater]

Originally Posted by Salty

Am I part of a minority? Yah I'm a Christian in Canada. We make up something like less than 7% of the population of Canada. Beyond that I'm a visible Christian, we might even not out number "the gays".

Holy ass-numbers, B.M.!

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Salty is hurt because we're not really nice to him even though he's gay.

It's true.

[Warung]

Originally Posted by isao bered

not that that is necessarily a bad thing... ;-)

See, that's what I'm saying! Life would be awesome!

Anyway, - you're right. I should have written "dogmatic religious views" instead of religion. Sorry for the blanket statement.