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Buckaroo · Aug 10, 2005, 08:49 PM

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1895,1845259,00.asp

I think John has finally gotten it right. Read it, it reads like a very good possibility, and with MacOsX taking over the OS market.

budster101 · Aug 10, 2005, 09:24 PM

I think he's all wrong, and a Jack@ss to boot. (Pun intended)

I don't want some idiot on a Dell Box running OS X, and we don't buy Apple Hardware because of the way it looks either. What sort of idiotic conclusion is that?

It would be foolish for them to allow any x86 box to run OS X.

Just my .02

OwlBoy · Aug 10, 2005, 10:21 PM

The Dvorak Quack!

brapper · Aug 10, 2005, 10:35 PM

interesting dream sequence....
and to think that back when I was much younger and easlly impressed, his used to be the first article I read in every PC Mag.
oh, the wasted minutes....

budster101 · Aug 10, 2005, 10:54 PM

Same here... I can't believe what a complete idiot he is.

Kevin · Aug 10, 2005, 10:56 PM

AH.. he was a bit lucid there for awhile

I see he has gone back to smoking marshmallows.

mitchell_pgh · Aug 10, 2005, 11:00 PM

I wouldn't be completely surprised if apple didn't make it all that difficult to get OS X running on a standard PC. I think it would be in their best interest. While I don't condone pirating, I think if more people got to "try out" OS X... they would be much more likely to purchase Apple hardware.

On that note, I just don't see how Apple could survive not making what they do off of their hardware... but who knows.

Ghoser777 · Aug 10, 2005, 11:43 PM

Unless their hardware profits start coming from other things than computers.

sek929 · Aug 10, 2005, 11:46 PM

Funny how he writes off the iPod as only eye-candy. I think it has the most intuative controls of any Mp3 player made.

budster101 · Aug 10, 2005, 11:53 PM

Dvorak just revealed what a wishy washy person he is. Does he actually have any clue? Maybe that's why he just writes about this stuff and isn't ever accountable for the crap he writes. He's just an older version of Paul Thurott.... A monkey with a keyboard.

jasonsRX7 · Aug 10, 2005, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

I think it would be in their best interest. While I don't condone pirating, I think if more people got to "try out" OS X... they would be much more likely to purchase Apple hardware.

I don't know about that. I think that a lot of Windows users that "tried out" OS X for free, without any monetary investment, would have no real driving incentive to learn the OS. They'd install it, play with it for a few minutes, get frustrated that it didn't work exactly like Windows, and delete it. It's the same thing they already do with every linux distro.

Switchers that plunk down cash for a Mac, be it a $500 mini or $1800 for an iMac have a real money incentive to learn about their new toy/tool.

besson3c · Aug 10, 2005, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

I wouldn't be completely surprised if apple didn't make it all that difficult to get OS X running on a standard PC. I think it would be in their best interest. While I don't condone pirating, I think if more people got to "try out" OS X... they would be much more likely to purchase Apple hardware.

On that note, I just don't see how Apple could survive not making what they do off of their hardware... but who knows.

I think you might be right.. if Apple made it hard enough so that it took a certain know-how to install OS X on a generic PC, this would appease the geek crowd, provide them with the "try out" experience, yet not detract too much from Apple's bottom line. Geeks are a minority.

Joe six-pack is not going to want to install some third party software (like something like XPostFacto) to get OS X to run on his machine, nor is he going to want to learn about what hardware is supported, etc. If he wants to use OS X, he'll buy a machine running OS X out of the box (how many normal people install different OSes on their computers?) If he does want to run OS X, chances are he'll get a Mac - it seems pretty certain that Apple will be the only company legally allowed to distribute OS X preinstalled on machines.

I think the more important question will be: how easy will it be to run Windows on your Mac, and how well will Apple market this?

I wouldn't be surprised at all if 10.5 saw some sort of WINE-type API for running Windows apps...

besson3c · Aug 11, 2005, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by jasonsRX7

I don't know about that. I think that a lot of Windows users that "tried out" OS X for free, without any monetary investment, would have no real driving incentive to learn the OS. They'd install it, play with it for a few minutes, get frustrated that it didn't work exactly like Windows, and delete it. It's the same thing they already do with every linux distro.

Switchers that plunk down cash for a Mac, be it a $500 mini or $1800 for an iMac have a real money incentive to learn about their new toy/tool.

The people who attempt to run OS X on their main machines though (and deal with partitioning their machines, preparing for the install, surveying their hardware, blah blah blah) are going to be savvy to geeky users. They represent only a small population of Apple's overall market.

The success of .Mac is great testimony to the power of reaching the novice user crowd (no offense .Mac owners, but .Mac is simply not targeted at the Slashdot crowd).

Buckaroo · Aug 11, 2005, 12:28 AM

Well, maybe it is a little off base, but what I had on my mind was that Apple's goal would be to eventually offer the Mac OS X for all Intel computers and eventually take over the OS market.