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Salty · Aug 14, 2005, 12:45 AM

As you know if you read like every post I make, you'll know I'm working on video stuff for my church (actually the church I'll be interning with this year) and I'd given them QT Movies straight from FCE (compressing takes to long and this way we keep quality). Anyway I stopped by the church the other day with a CD of the promotional video with some changes. Our senior pastor then mentioned how he'd bought QT Pro, he said, "Well I use it enough, and I knew you were an Apple guy and you'd be doing stuff and I wanted to go full screen."
I was like... wow... I wonder how much money Apple makes off of Quicktime Pro. I didn't have the heart to tell him that iTunes will play the video full screen... we'll just keep that between us

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tavilach · Aug 14, 2005, 02:04 AM

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but you're saying that Apple limits the standard version of QuickTime so as to make more money off of QuickTime Pro?

For shame!

Salty · Aug 14, 2005, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by tavilach

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but you're saying that Apple limits the standard version of QuickTime so as to make more money off of QuickTime Pro?

For shame!

You get a brown star.

No what I'm saying is that some people actually will drop the 40 bucks CND to get full screen and don't see a big problem with it. Where as I personally refuse to spend so much on QT Pro or right now can't justify it. Especially when I can get other apps to do it for me.

Adam Betts · Aug 14, 2005, 09:42 AM

Expensive, yes, but it's necessary to cover most codec's licensing fee.

However I still think it's dumb to make Full Screen Pro only. Full screen without on-screen controller would be better for non-Pro version.

Eug Wanker · Aug 14, 2005, 09:50 AM

Just get the free QuickTime Amateur.

QTAmateur is a small, simple QuickTime video player. It can play any format that QuickTime can understand, handle fullscreen video playback, and export files to any format that QuickTime can write.

QTAmateur includes a Batch Export function which can convert any number of movies at a time to another format. Simply drag the desired movies into the window, choose the desired format, configure the output, and let QTAmateur take care of the rest.

Sorry, QTAmateur can't export Protected AAC files purchased from the iTunes Music store.

Best of all, QTAmateur is completely free.

QTAmateur requires QuickTime 7 and Mac OS X 10.3.9 (Panther).

ReggieX · Aug 14, 2005, 11:02 AM

QT Pro costs money to take care of the license fees for the encoders.

The rest of you can just use AppleScript: http://www.xvsxp.com/scriptability/applescript/

MaxPower2k3 · Aug 14, 2005, 11:13 AM

You could also use the Dashboard widget so conveniently linked-to in my signature...

Gamoe · Aug 14, 2005, 01:32 PM

I've always found this ridiculous and wrong. Quicktime is an integral part of the Mac OS, as described by Apple itself, going back to the Classic era all the way to the latest version of Mac OS X. If Apple wants to limit "Pro" features, that allow people to create content that's one thing, but to limit full screen mode is ridiculous, and it makes the Mac look bad compared to other PCs-- Paying extra for a standard feature on that other platform, specially considering that the Mac is known for video editing work. Imagine that... it just makes our platform look bad.

Not to mention those horrible advertisements... are those still going on? I had a Windoze bot point the QT ad once when I was showing a group of people something on my Powerbook... "Look, they put ads on your computer!"...again making the Mac look bad.

chabig · Aug 14, 2005, 03:24 PM

They could include the pro features right into the OS, but then they'd have to roll the licensing fees in too, increasing the cost for thousands (millions) of people who don't want or need QT pro.

Chris

Salty · Aug 14, 2005, 05:39 PM

Yes but full screen costs them no money.

And sadly our pastor uses a PC. But yah no I'd sooner just use VLC, iTunes, Playlist Player etc.

Eug Wanker · Aug 14, 2005, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Salty

Yes but full screen costs them no money.

I agree, Apple's policy on this is stupid.

However, like I said you can use QT Amateur for full screen playback as well as file export (including to H.264).

Basically, the guy just took all the main features of QT Pro built into OS X and put his own GUI around it and offered it up as freeware.

MaxPower2k3's full screen QT widget rocks too.

JHromadka · Aug 14, 2005, 06:09 PM

You can also use OS X's built-in zoom. Go into System Prefs | Universal Access and turn on Zoom. Then you can presss Option-Command-Plus or Minus to zoom in and out.

ironknee · Aug 14, 2005, 07:08 PM

just wondering...do u think your pastor used a crack or di he really pay for it...or the church paid for it...?

just kidding

Cadaver · Aug 14, 2005, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by ironknee

just wondering...do u think your pastor used a crack or di he really pay for it...or the church paid for it...?

just kidding

GØD iz teh 1337 Hax0rz!!!!1eleven

Salty · Aug 14, 2005, 11:15 PM

Originally Posted by ironknee

just wondering...do u think your pastor used a crack or di he really pay for it...or the church paid for it...?

just kidding

I was tempted to ask for his key... hahaha... but yah he paid.

red rocket · Aug 15, 2005, 05:30 AM

You're clearly smarter than that pastor of yours.

Salty · Aug 15, 2005, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by red rocket

You're clearly smarter than that pastor of yours.

Smarter? No. Technologically literate yes. One of the major reasons I applied for the internship is because there's a lot I can learn from this guy. He's a very gifted preacher, and exceptional motivator... actually reminds me of Jobs a bit in that regard... guess it might help that his name is Steve

analogika · Aug 15, 2005, 03:14 PM

Wait...so it took you like three years to work out that they made Full-Screen mode QT Pro-only in order to sell tens of thousands of QT Pro licenses to people who have absolutely zero need for any of QT Pro's other functions?

C:\NGRTLTNS.SCN

ironknee · Aug 15, 2005, 05:53 PM

what does a church need videos for? recruitment?

mojo2 · Aug 15, 2005, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Just get the free QuickTime Amateur.

QTAmateur is a small, simple QuickTime video player. It can play any format that QuickTime can understand, handle fullscreen video playback, and export files to any format that QuickTime can write.

QTAmateur includes a Batch Export function which can convert any number of movies at a time to another format. Simply drag the desired movies into the window, choose the desired format, configure the output, and let QTAmateur take care of the rest.

Sorry, QTAmateur can't export Protected AAC files purchased from the iTunes Music store.

Best of all, QTAmateur is completely free.

QTAmateur requires QuickTime 7 and Mac OS X 10.3.9 (Panther).

I already have QT Pro and now I'm going to see which one I use more frequently or which one performs better.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Nice review, Eug!

Salty · Aug 15, 2005, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by ironknee

what does a church need videos for? recruitment?

Actually... yes, the one I've done so far was to drum up buzz and help convince people to join on as volunteers for our VBS (Vacation Bible School) program. It's a massive ministry we do every summer for a week, this year's theme is "Extreme Makeover Heart Edition." Basically we have a live band that plays for the kids while they sing along and stuff, crafts, games, and a story time. Takes about two hours a day as far as the kids are there for. Last year out of a church with about 250 people on an average Sunday we had 80 volunteers, and 250 kids in total (that includes kids that only showed up for one or two days on average we had about 212 kids per day).
But we'll also do videos for other parts of the service, as sermon illustrations that sorta thing. And odds are with me interning there now that they'll have someone who they can give a big video project to we'll see a fair number more of these things

Chuckit · Aug 15, 2005, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Salty

this year's theme is "Extreme Makeover Heart Edition."

Seriously, nobody else sees the similarities between Christianity and porn?

ironknee · Aug 15, 2005, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by Salty

Actually... yes, the one I've done so far was to drum up buzz and help convince people to join on as volunteers for our VBS (Vacation Bible School) program. It's a massive ministry we do every summer for a week, this year's theme is "Extreme Makeover Heart Edition." Basically we have a live band that plays for the kids while they sing along and stuff, crafts, games, and a story time. Takes about two hours a day as far as the kids are there for. Last year out of a church with about 250 people on an average Sunday we had 80 volunteers, and 250 kids in total (that includes kids that only showed up for one or two days on average we had about 212 kids per day).
But we'll also do videos for other parts of the service, as sermon illustrations that sorta thing. And odds are with me interning there now that they'll have someone who they can give a big video project to we'll see a fair number more of these things

do u get paid? (not in prayers i hope)

but these are already people of the church right? or is it bring a pagan and get half off...anyways, good experience

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Seriously, nobody else sees the similarities between Christianity and porn?

lol