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Sourbook · Aug 15, 2005, 12:47 AM

Terrell Owens, with instructions from his agent Drew Rosenhaus, goes into Eagles training camp on a mission with only one agenda. Extortion and sabotage. Ok, thats two agenda's.

Agasthya · Aug 15, 2005, 12:55 AM

It's funny as hell from an outsiders point of view though. And Donovan had some great quotes too. Its just really really funny and I hope it continues for the rest of the year.

typoon · Aug 15, 2005, 09:33 AM

What gets me is these Big name players who sign a contract for how ever many Years then after a good year or in the middle they ask for MORE money. Try doing that in any other contract job and see what heppens. Only in the NFL do many of the owner bow to the demand of the players.

I mean you are under contract for those number of years. you agreed to the contract. You put your name on that legal piece of paper and now you want more? Deal with it and just play out the contract. These whiney millionares in the NFL are starting to tick me off with this.

Paco500 · Aug 15, 2005, 09:39 AM

Don't get me wrong, I'm not defending him, but the owners can drop the contract any time they see fit. What goes around comes around.

I don't think T.O. is doing himself any good in the long run, but the whole concept of contracts is silly. They don't seem to mean a whole lot either way,

lavar78 · 10:03 AM

I don't see a problem with asking for more money during a contract. After all, the contracts aren't guaranteed. The team can cut you for underperforming (or any reason at all), so I see no problem with trying to re-negotiate after outperforming it. That being said, I also see no problem with the team being unwilling to negotiate. I can't blame a guy for trying though.

I see you beat me to it, Paco.

Gankdawg · Aug 15, 2005, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by lavar78

I don't see a problem with asking for more money during a contract. After all, the contracts aren't guaranteed. The team can cut you for underperforming (or any reason at all), so I see no problem with trying to re-negotiate after outperforming it. That being said, I also see no problem with the team being unwilling to negotiate. I can't blame a guy for trying though.

I see you beat me to it, Paco.

Both parties knew what the contract said at the signing of the contract. Now one party (T.O.) is unhappy and he wants to renegotiate? If he didn't like the original terms (even if they said they could boot him for no reason), he should have never signed it.

rickey939 · Aug 15, 2005, 10:29 PM

T.O. is nothing but a fool. Truly.

And yes, that says a lot coming from a Rickey Henderson fan!

lavar78 · Aug 15, 2005, 10:49 PM

Originally Posted by Gankdawg

Both parties knew what the contract said at the signing of the contract. Now one party (T.O.) is unhappy and he wants to renegotiate? If he didn't like the original terms (even if they said they could boot him for no reason), he should have never signed it.

As Paco mentioned, this isn't a contract in the normal terms. If it isn't binding to one party, why should it be binding for the other? Even if you think it should work that way, where's the harm in asking to re-negotiate the contract? It's like asking for a raise. Remember, T.O. didn't even hold out. All he did was ask for more money. The teams have no shame in asking players to restructure their contracts, so the players should have the same opportunity.

rickey939 · Nov 5, 2005, 12:03 PM

TO just got TKO'd....suspended indefinitely by the Eagles for his latest comments. Again, he is complete garbage.

Go Eagles! About time.

Stogieman · Nov 5, 2005, 01:10 PM

Picture of HaHa guy appearing in....3....2....

nredman · Nov 5, 2005, 02:28 PM

gives him more time to workout in his driveway

SVass · Nov 5, 2005, 03:05 PM

Contract termination is different than suspension. He may have the right to consider his contract void and sign with another team. This is psychological warfare, similar to asking a politician to apologize for his sins. Remember, TO was not hired for his oratorical skills and that a losing team doesn't mind reducing its payroll. Businesses do have layoffs in bad years. sam

Dork. · Nov 5, 2005, 04:30 PM

Isn't he injured, anyway?

TailsToo · Nov 5, 2005, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Dork.

Isn't he injured, anyway?

I think only his mind is injured...

Sourbook · Nov 5, 2005, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by TailsToo

I think only his mind is injured...

Dork. · Nov 7, 2005, 04:23 PM

Well, the latest news is that he's going to be suspended (without pay) for three more games (four total), then deactivated for the remainder of the season after that. He better keep his house in NJ a little while longer, he'll need a place to watch the games (and get paid for it!)....

My money says he's on the Raiders next year. Can you imagine Randy Moss and T.O. on the same team? They might punch each other out on the field fighting over the ball!

iLikebeer · Nov 7, 2005, 04:46 PM

Smart move by TO. Eagles will never win a superbowl with McNabb at the helm, he just doesn't have the heart or ability under pressure. I agree with everything he said, but his tact was lacking. He might sit out the rest of the season, but there was already too much bad blood and he probably knows he'll be better off on a team that can use him to get the big win.

And good for him for not backing down and apologizing at the team meeting, stick to your guns TO! Remember, they don't need you anyways, like they showed yesterday against the Skins.

Maflynn · Nov 7, 2005, 04:56 PM

He's a fool, he'll probably sign for less money somewhere else because of the baggage he brings, a lot of the major teams willing to pay him that type of money just won't.

I think its wrong too to ask for more money after you agreed to a contract. The dollars they're thrownig around is riduclious, I mean just look at how much you make, I myself struggle to make ends meet and he's being insulted by the 48 million dollar contract, oh come on.

I don't feel bad for the eagles, because its there fault. They knew going into this deal what a head case he was, but in their arrogance they thought they could control him or control his outburst. The was furtherest thing from the truth. They made a deal with the devil and now they're paying for it.

Too bad because McNabb seems like a really quality guy, he did not go down to TO's level of name calling or bickering, he kept it between the two.

Mike

SVass · Nov 7, 2005, 04:57 PM

ESPN said that he is getting full pay during his suspension. (I don't know.) Not paying him would open an opportunity for a big lawsuit that many attorneys would take on spec. I don't thing owners are much better human beings than players. Look at ... sam

lavar78 · Nov 7, 2005, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by iLikebeer

Smart move by TO. Eagles will never win a superbowl with McNabb at the helm, he just doesn't have the heart or ability under pressure. I agree with everything he said, but his tact was lacking. He might sit out the rest of the season, but there was already too much bad blood and he probably knows he'll be better off on a team that can use him to get the big win.

And good for him for not backing down and apologizing at the team meeting, stick to your guns TO! Remember, they don't need you anyways, like they showed yesterday against the Skins.

That was amusing.

The Eagles will be fine.

stevesnj · Nov 7, 2005, 05:03 PM

T.O. is OUTTA HERE!!!! Thank God...now the Eagles can finally concentrate and maybe win.

SVass · Nov 7, 2005, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by stevesnj

T.O. is OUTTA HERE!!!! Thank God...now the Eagles can finally concentrate and maybe win.

Sosa is finally outa here! Arod is finally...Oops!

d0ubled0wn · Nov 7, 2005, 07:01 PM

"At the end of the day, I don't have to worry about what people think of me, whether they hate me or not. People hated on Jesus. They threw stones at him and tried to kill him, so how can I complain or worry about what people think?"
-- Owens to Miami Herald, July, 2005

T.O. compares himself to Jesus.

KeriVit · Nov 7, 2005, 07:39 PM

McNabb can't win a SB. that's preposterous. It's not HIS fault. We beat em, but really to discredit McNabb like that is silly. They don't need TO specifically, but the rookie ain't gonna cut it.

Dork. · Nov 7, 2005, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by SVass

ESPN said that he is getting full pay during his suspension. (I don't know.) Not paying him would open an opportunity for a big lawsuit that many attorneys would take on spec. I don't thing owners are much better human beings than players. Look at ... sam

There's apparently a standard clause in NFL contracts that players can be suspended up to 4 games without pay due to bad conduct. After that suspension, T.O. will get paid again through the balance of the season, but he won't be on the active roster, and won't play.

I read earlier that they were planning oin suspending hin for four games, but maybe they changed their mind.

stevesnj · Nov 7, 2005, 08:50 PM

The local Philly news confirmed he is suspended the rest of the season and will be released or traded.

DarwinX · Nov 7, 2005, 09:20 PM

He is a bum. Period.

Randman · Nov 7, 2005, 09:32 PM

He's losing about $191,000 for the 4 weeks of the suspension. He can released or deactivated afterward but would have to be paid the remainder of his salary for that time.

Anyway, Philly knew what they were getting and deserve it. He was a cancer in San Fran, he screwed over Baltimore and he was a cancer in Philly. Caveat emptor baby.

rickey939 · Nov 7, 2005, 09:57 PM

rambo47 · Nov 7, 2005, 10:20 PM

He's losing $191,000 per game for the suspension. He's one of the most talented receivers in the game, but he has such a bad attitude it negates all that talent. He's a detriment to whatever team has the misfortune of giving him a contract. So naturally, the misfortune will probably be that of my Raiders next year. We just can't help picking up the league's refuse.

Randman · Nov 7, 2005, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by rambo47

He's losing $191,000 per game for the suspension

Yep, my bad. I missed typing that part in.

exca1ibur · Nov 8, 2005, 02:02 AM

Originally Posted by rambo47

He's losing $191,000 per game for the suspension. He's one of the most talented receivers in the game, but he has such a bad attitude it negates all that talent. He's a detriment to whatever team has the misfortune of giving him a contract. So naturally, the misfortune will probably be that of my Raiders next year. We just can't help picking up the league's refuse.

Only problem is we dont need another receiver on the roster. The only big team I see would be Atlanta. They need a 'go to' guy, but the question is do they want his baggage with the package?

Randman · Nov 8, 2005, 03:19 AM

If he is released this year, Green Bay would have first shot then Houston. If he's released in the off-season, he could good anywhere though it's likely to follow what happened with Keyshawn Johnson a few years ago with Tampa and the Eagles trade Owens for pennies on the dollar just to get something back.

lavar78 · Nov 8, 2005, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by Randman

If he is released this year, Green Bay would have first shot then Houston. If he's released in the off-season, he could good anywhere though it's likely to follow what happened with Keyshawn Johnson a few years ago with Tampa and the Eagles trade Owens for pennies on the dollar just to get something back.

Wasn't he traded for Joey Galloway? That's hardly pennies on the dollar. Both have been very good at times and very overrated other times.

Sigh. I guess I need to make a new Eagles sig.

Dork. · Nov 8, 2005, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by lavar78

Sigh. I guess I need to make a new Eagles sig.

It you put Brett Farve in it, it would be much better.

lavar78 · Nov 8, 2005, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Dork.

It you put Brett Farve in it, it would be much better.

Heh. I'll defend T.O.'s desire to make more money, but saying the Eagles would be undefeated with Favre is probably the dumbest thing he's ever said. If anything, their record would be worse. I still don't understand how McNabb can be so underrated. Who would dare question the toughness of a guy who threw 4 TDs on a broken leg? It boggles the mind.

Randman · Nov 8, 2005, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by lavar78

Heh. I'll defend T.O.'s desire to make more money.

He signed a contract. He has no right to ask for more money 1 year after signing a new 5-year contract.

exca1ibur · Nov 8, 2005, 02:35 PM

If a team can cut or trade you under contract. Why shouldn't a player have that option to modify it as well, or at least bring it up?

glideslope · Nov 8, 2005, 06:29 PM

5 years from now Owens will be doing 25 to life. He can't escape it.

lavar78 · Nov 8, 2005, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Randman

He signed a contract. He has no right to ask for more money 1 year after signing a new 5-year contract.

He has every right to ask for a raise whenever he wants. That doesn't mean he should get one, but he certainly has the right to ask. That goes for any employee (assuming it's not prohibited in the contract, of course).

Originally Posted by glideslope

5 years from now Owens will be doing 25 to life. He can't escape it.

Randman · Nov 8, 2005, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by lavar78

He has every right to ask for a raise whenever he wants. That doesn't mean he should get one, but he certainly has the right to ask.

Asking for one isn't the same as being a pita and being a cancer on the team.

Anyway, he apologized to all and the Eagles still said thanks but no thanks.

Dex13 · Nov 8, 2005, 06:43 PM

Originally Posted by Dork.

My money says he's on the Raiders next year. Can you imagine Randy Moss and T.O. on the same team? They might punch each other out on the field fighting over the ball!

Shut the Fcuk Up When You Have No Clue wtf you are talking about.

If you look at the stats, sure randy is an awesome athlete but Collins, he spreads the ball around. Randy is a team player. so don't go around making stupid assumptions.

go get a blog.

Randman · Nov 8, 2005, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by Dex13

Randy is a team player. so don't go around making stupid assumptions.

Talk about not knowing what they're talking about.

Or do you forget Moss admitting he took plays off when the ball wasn't going to him? And what about the problems he caused in Minnesota? Not Owens-level but a diva nevertheless.

lavar78 · Nov 8, 2005, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by Randman

Asking for one isn't the same as being a pita and being a cancer on the team.

I don't think he was being a PITA when he complained about wanting a new deal. Ripping his teammates and organization is quite another story.

You know, I don't think T.O. is a bad person outside of being immature. All he really needs to do is grow up. Randy Moss never would've busted his butt to make it back for the Super Bowl like T.O. did.

rambo47 · Nov 8, 2005, 07:00 PM

Everyone likes T.O. off the field. It's just his inability to control his antics around the game of football that make him such a liability. You really can't argue about his talent. He could be one of the greatest receivers of all time if he can stay healthy and playing. Imaging his talent with the attitude of, say, Mark Bavaro. Now that guy kept his head down, ran people over, scored touchdowns, and didn't even spike the ball.

teney7 · Nov 8, 2005, 07:24 PM

TO sucks, period,

GO VIKES! 3-5, baby!

KeriVit · Nov 8, 2005, 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by rambo47

Everyone likes T.O. off the field. It's just his inability to control his antics around the game of football that make him such a liability. You really can't argue about his talent. He could be one of the greatest receivers of all time if he can stay healthy and playing. Imaging his talent with the attitude of, say, Mark Bavaro. Now that guy kept his head down, ran people over, scored touchdowns, and didn't even spike the ball.

Oh and that would be why it was antics off the field that got him suspended.

Whatever

Dex13 · Nov 9, 2005, 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Randman

Talk about not knowing what they're talking about.

Or do you forget Moss admitting he took plays off when the ball wasn't going to him? And what about the problems he caused in Minnesota? Not Owens-level but a diva nevertheless.

obviously i wasn't speaking on his previous seasons. i was speaking specifically on that with oakland, where he has surprisingly not bitched or whined to the extent he has in the past.

He hasn't exhibited this type of behavior ever since he got a new step dad, by the name of Al Davis.

Randman · Nov 9, 2005, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by Dex13

obviously i wasn't speaking on his previous seasons. i was speaking specifically on that with oakland, where he has surprisingly not bitched or whined to the extent he has in the past.

He hasn't exhibited this type of behavior ever since he got a new step dad, by the name of Al Davis.

Not yet.