[LilWolfChokingOnCigs68]

The reason I was asking if it was illegal was because I was curious. I didn't think ebay allowed such auctions. Also, seems like it'd be an easy way to make a lot of money: Print iron-on. Iron on. Sell.

Does legality matter to me? No. What's right and wrong does. For those of lower intelligence, I guess it's hard to imagine right/wrong not being the exact same thing is legal/illegal. I got an email back from the seller, and no, they aren't giving hte band any money. I reported them. They're using someone else's work as a way to make profit, not only from the name, but also the art work. That's uncool. Period.

Madra: I'd leave them alone if they had created their own artwork, but that's just a pic from the website that's been run through a photoshop filter. That isn't cool. If it was actually original art, then I wouldn't have reported it.

Budster, the only reason I saw your post was that I got banned. No, I didn't pull the wings off flies. I'm very gentle to animals and bugs. I even catch all the spiders I find in my place and set them free outside so they'll hopefully kill some mosquitos.

As for me not wearing shoes or shirts..uh... okay? Anyway, just wanted to clarify why I was curious.

Edit: PS: As I'm sure I won't have this name for long, I hope you guys like my new homepage.

[budster101]

It was a 'one-off' not a mass produced item.

You have anger issues, and I wonder why.

[LilWolfChokingOnCigs68]

Crap. Forgot to put you on the ignore list. Brb.

[Mrjinglesusa]

Name one thing you think is "right" that is currently illegal.

[LilWolfChokingOnCigs68]

Originally Posted by Mrjinglesusa

Name one thing you think is "right" that is currently illegal.

No turns on reds when there's clearly zero traffic around.
Speed limits that don't make sense to the given location.
Smoking a natural substance that grows in the ground that's been smoked by hundreds of different cultures and millions of people.
Having a pocketknife/leatherman in your pocket when you get on an airliner.
Having a fingernail clipper in your carry on luggage.

Man, I could come up with a bunch of things that should be legal if I had enough time. But unfortunately I'm tired. Night!

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by LilWolfChokingOnCigs68

Crap. Forgot to put you on the ignore list. Brb.

Rob didn't you used to make fun of people using the ignore list?

You are very selective and hypocritical in your rants BTW.

You have a habit of taking things you don't personally like, using reasons that you have gone against in the past of similar circumstances.

Meaning a certain law isn't legit unless it protects or goes against something YOU feel strongly about. But take that same law, and put it in a different place, and suddenly it's lame because of your feelings toward THAT ideal.

You pick and choose when it's convenient. And Bash when it's not.

[Mrjinglesusa]

Originally Posted by LilWolfChokingOnCigs68

Having a fingernail clipper in your carry on luggage.

Now this I agree with.

[Mrjinglesusa]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Rob didn't you used to make fun of people using the ignore list?

You are very selective and hypocritical in your rants BTW.

You have a habit of taking things you don't personally like, using reasons that you have gone against in the past of similar circumstances.

Meaning a certain law isn't legit unless it protects or goes against something YOU feel strongly about. But take that same law, and put it in a different place, and suddenly it's lame because of your feelings toward THAT ideal.

You pick and choose when it's convenient. And Bash when it's not.

That's how people with limited rational thought and no anger filter typically "argue".

[LilWolfChokingOnCigs68]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Rob didn't you used to make fun of people using the ignore list?

Perhaps. I could ignore him, it's just that my brain actually does feel dumber each time I read his pointless inane things.... that he would never say in real life of course, because he's polite in real life.

You are very selective and hypocritical in your rants BTW.

Perhaps, but no more than the average person. You throw your brain and rationality out the window when it comes to your faith. >shrug< We all pick and choose our battles, and when to look at something critically.

You have a habit of taking things you don't personally like, using reasons that you have gone against in the past of similar circumstances. Meaning a certain law isn't legit unless it protects or goes against something YOU feel strongly about. But take that same law, and put it in a different place, and suddenly it's lame because of your feelings toward THAT ideal.

Like what? But anyway, maybe you nailed it. It isn't the law that's good or bad, it's the specific issue.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by LilWolfChokingOnCigs68

Perhaps. I could ignore him, it's just that my brain actually does feel dumber each time I read his pointless inane things.... that he would never say in real life of course, because he's polite in real life.

So you hate him because he reminds you of yourself too much?

BTW he doesn't act like that at all.

Perhaps, but no more than the average person. You throw your brain and rationality out the window when it comes to your faith. >shrug< We all pick and choose our battles, and when to look at something critically.

Actually it was my brain and rational that brought me to faith. Wrong again.

Like what? But anyway, maybe you nailed it. It isn't the law that's good or bad, it's the specific issue.

Or maybe it's not the law at all, but what Rob can use to justify his irrational behavior?

[budster101]

Originally Posted by LilWolfChokingOnCigs68

Perhaps. I could ignore him, it's just that my brain actually does feel dumber each time I read his pointless inane things.... that he would never say in real life of course, because he's polite in real life.



Perhaps, but no more than the average person. You throw your brain and rationality out the window when it comes to your faith. >shrug< We all pick and choose our battles, and when to look at something critically.



Like what? But anyway, maybe you nailed it. It isn't the law that's good or bad, it's the specific issue.

In real life I would put you down and you wouldn't even know it. That is how I deal with people like you. It's rather polite actually.

Natural substance that grows in the ground. Tobacco is just that dufus.

[budster101]

Originally Posted by LilWolfChokingOnCigs68

No turns on reds when there's clearly zero traffic around.
Speed limits that don't make sense to the given location.
Smoking a natural substance that grows in the ground that's been smoked by hundreds of different cultures and millions of people.
Having a pocketknife/leatherman in your pocket when you get on an airliner.
Having a fingernail clipper in your carry on luggage.

Man, I could come up with a bunch of things that should be legal if I had enough time. But unfortunately I'm tired. Night!

Speed limits are there for a REASON, they protect the average driver from someone like you...

Again, tobacco is natural.

Why would you need to have a knife in your pocket on an Airplane? Put it in the luggage... especially a person of such irrationality as yourself.

[budster101]

http://www.hereiamchokingonacigarett...ogoddamnlazyto

Birthday:
May 6, 2000
Biography:
Dead baby, died from eating cig butts on the ground
Location:
I don't.... thanks to dad littering.
Interests:
Tasting cigarettes, hoping my family's SUV doesn't flip over and kill us
Occupation:
Eating cigs.


---

Rob you are a sick SOB.

[Kevin]

Sick? Naw. Just self involved and immature.

He is still a in the "juvenile" stage in his life though.

He is what 21?

What do you expect? The world revolves around him.

I just don't want to be around when reality smacks him in the forehead.

And he goes to jail for awhile because of his over-reactions.

They will love his rants on how he is righteous in there.

[budster101]

He's 21? Pretty imature for a 21 year old. He's rather sick if he does half the things he boasts about in here.

[sek929]

Tobacco is rarely smoked in "natural" forms as you call them Budster.

I assume you know how many chemicals are present in cigarettes.

[budster101]

I'll assume you know how many chemicals are in what Rob is describing as 'natural'.

I sometimes roll my own. Cigarettes that is, and they are legal.

Q: What is marijuana? Aren't there different kinds?

A: Marijuana is a green, brown, or gray mixture of dried, shredded leaves, stems, seeds, and flowers of the hemp plant. You may hear marijuana called by street names such as pot, herb, weed, grass, boom, Mary Jane, gangster, or chronic. There are more than 200 slang terms for marijuana.

Sinsemilla (sin-seh-me-yah; it’s a Spanish word), hashish (“hash” for short), and hash oil are stronger forms of marijuana.

All forms of marijuana are mind-altering. In other words, they change how the brain works. They all contain THC (delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol), the main active chemical in marijuana. They also contain more than 400 other chemicals. Marijuana’s effects on the user depend on it’s strength or potency, which is related to the amount of THC it contains(5). The THC content of marijuana has been increasing since the 1970s.

source

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by sek929

Tobacco is rarely smoked in "natural" forms as you call them Budster.

I assume you know how many chemicals are present in cigarettes.

Is that even relevant?

Rob wasn't bitching about cigs because of the chemicals.

This is just a good example of Rob's selective choice.

[sek929]

I'm very well versed on the effects and toxins in pot smoke.

Anyone who sells shredded leaves with stems and seeds would get a swift kick in the nuts, its bud and only bud for me, no BS.

Fact is my buds go from the plant to my pipe. At best your tobacco has gone from a factory to your cig ( I roll my own too)

Plus go check the internet for Pot deaths. I'll save you some time, there aren't any. Compare that to Tobacco's, what, like 400,000 deaths per year?

The ONLY argument anti-pot people have is the largely unproven psychosis after long habitual use. Other than that its no worse than anything you can buy legally.

[sek929]

Originally Posted by Kevin

Is that even relevant?

Rob wasn't bitching about cigs because of the chemicals.

This is just a good example of Rob's selective choice.

That may be, but to you I'm sure this thread is pointless anyways so why would you mind if I derailed it?

[budster101]

PS: I'm for the legalization of Marijuana for medical purposes if it can be done successfully, but it hasn't been done very well yet.

Keven: Right, 'spot on' as they say.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by sek929

Plus go check the internet for Pot deaths. I'll save you some time, there aren't any. Compare that to Tobacco's, what, like 400,000 deaths per year?

sek, sek, sek... the very things that cause people cancer from cigs are even MORE apparent in pot.

Fact is alot of pot smokers ALSO smoke cigs.

But that is irrelevant. If cig smoke can kill you because of the harmful chemicals ingested. Something that releases even MORE of those harmful chemicals is going to kill you as well.

marijuana has a whole lot more tar and harmful nastiness in it than tobacco.

Ever smoked out of a clear clean glass bowl? See the results from that bowl?

[sek929]

Not true. Nicotene has been proven to massively increase your chance of forming cancer causing cells.

In any case something thats legal is just as bad as something that is not. Silly indeed.

As far as ingesting it, I doubt anyone has anything bad to say about that.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by sek929

Not true. Nicotene has been proven to massively increase your chance of forming cancer causing cells.

In lab experiments, THC has been shown to block the immune system’s ability to function properly. This leads to greater risk of illness, infection, and cancer among heavy users.

It would be hard to say pot is less dangerous than cigarette smoking because marijuana has 3 times the amount of tar as tobacco, and its carbon monoxide levels are 3-5 times that of cigarettes.

Be aware that pot has 50% more cancer-causing hydrocarbons than a tobacco cigarette.

Every time you inhale, you’re accepting all of that poison into your body because joints do not have filters. Also, most pot smokers inhale the smoke and hold it in their lungs longer than they would for cigarette smoke

[sek929]

Ok Zim, whatever you say,

400,000 deaths to Zero deaths

Once you can fully disprove that number, I'll never smoke again.

[sek929]

THC is not physically addictive (like our good friend Nicotene) In fact, nicotene is certainly among the most addictive substances man has ever known. This forces people to smoke well into the rest of their (shortened) life. Plenty of people have had their fun with pot and eventually grew up. I'm 21, at this point if glass gave me a buzz i'd eat it (joking)

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by sek929

Ok Zim, whatever you say,

400,000 deaths to Zero deaths

Once you can fully disprove that number, I'll never smoke again.

sek how do you know it's zero deaths?

really how would you measure such a thing? Like I said, most pot smokers also smoke cigs.

And people more than likely aren't going to admit they are avid pot-heads to doctors or the authorities.

Originally Posted by sek929

THC is not physically addictive (like our good friend Nicotene) In fact, nicotene is certainly among the most addictive substances man has ever known. This forces people to smoke well into the rest of their (shortened) life. Plenty of people have had their fun with pot and eventually grew up. I'm 21, at this point if glass gave me a buzz i'd eat it (joking)

you mean THC is not AS physically addictive as nicotine. No arguments there.

I've tackled both addictions before.

To me, the pot was harder to quit because I wasn't really getting "high" off the cigs.

Took me a month to quit cigs. And a year to give up pot.

Least you forget, I am not one of those blowhards that has never tried it and runs his mouth about it.

When I quit smoking cigs, I smoked more pot than I did cigs.

it got to the point where I was barely getting high off the GOOD stuff.

[sek929]

Yes indeed. But you turned out ok, I think?

I wouldn't think a dead person would admit anything to the authorities.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by sek929

Yes indeed. But you turned out ok, I think?

Yes, but I am only 32. I stopped when I was still young (27)

I wouldn't think a dead person would admit anything to the authorities.

Right, so how would those statistics even mean anything? They wouldn't.

[m a d r a]

Originally Posted by LilWolfChokingOnCigs68

....I got an email back from the seller, and no, they aren't giving hte band any money. I reported them....

i think that was a pretty shitty thing to do. with all the wankers in the world who are deserving of your odium, why do you always save it for someone who's never done YOU personally any harm?

unlike a lot of the folks on here, i've actually always quite liked you, rob - because you're quite entertaining and, at the end of the day "sticks and stones...." and all that, but i'm afraid on this occasion, you're getting a resounding from the irish judge!

[analogika]

Originally Posted by sek929

Tobacco is rarely smoked in "natural" forms as you call them Budster.

I assume you know how many chemicals are present in cigarettes.

I doubt that American Spirit (additive-free cigarettes/tobacco) smokers are even the slightest bit better in Rob's eyes...

I find the smell of *most* shop-bought grass these days more offensive than even Marlboros, which are IMO the most vile-smelling cigarettes around.

Whereas some days (even on those that I don't smoke myself - I smoke irregularly) I actually *like* smelling Spirits or Manitous...


Oh, and: LilWolfChokingOnCigs68 <-- I don't get why you pull these idiotic stunts. Do you WANT to get banned? Do you think it garners you respect or something?

[villalobos]

Originally Posted by budster101

I'll assume you know how many chemicals are in what Rob is describing as 'natural'.

so if there are 'chemicals' in pot then it's not 'natural'?

Ever heard about nicotine and its proven addicitive effect? Any idea how many 'chemicals' there are in tobacco?

[budster101]

They add more nicotine to cigarettes.

I'm no fanboy of them, I'm addicted tot them. I don't really know what makes something natural good.

- Mushrooms? (The funny kind) etc. Something can be natural and still be bad for you, but that again is not Rob's point. He could care less if it is bad or good for you, he jus has some serious twisted views on things that make him angry. "Things set him off".

[LilWolfChokingOnCigs68]

Originally Posted by Kevin

marijuana has a whole lot more tar and harmful nastiness in it than tobacco.

Ever smoked out of a clear clean glass bowl? See the results from that bowl?

It is true. Pot is more harmful than filtered cigarettes. But I don't care that it's harmful, I just want people to pick up after themselves. People don't generally toss wrappers and soda cans out of their cars... why do they think it's okay to toss cigarettes out their windows? The real irony is most cars HAVE an ashtray, but they DON'T have garbage cans. Strange.

Anyway, about pot, all the pot smokers I know don't smoke cigs, and they smoke pot occasionally, not once a day or 8 times a day like most cigarette smokers. They also don't toss their junk on the ground. And me? I only use a bubbler. Water filtration removes a lot of the bad crap in pot smoke. A vaporizer is supposedly even better.

[LilWolfChokingOnCigs68]

Originally Posted by Kevin

To me, the pot was harder to quit because I wasn't really getting "high" off the cigs.

Took me a month to quit cigs. And a year to give up pot.

So you're officially done? Never again? That sucks. I always wanted to meet you in real life, smoke, and talk religion. Oh well. Personal question though: If you did quit for good... why? Why not just smoke once or twice a year? Aren't you the one who was saying moderation is key in everything?

[LilWolfChokingOnCigs68]

Originally Posted by m a d r a

i think that was a pretty shitty thing to do. with all the wankers in the world who are deserving of your odium, why do you always save it for someone who's never done YOU personally any harm?

unlike a lot of the folks on here, i've actually always quite liked you, rob - because you're quite entertaining and, at the end of the day "sticks and stones...." and all that, but i'm afraid on this occasion, you're getting a resounding from the irish judge!

Because I like the band. I don't think people should be downloading art of their website, then running it through photoshop to get it black and white, and then selling the shirt on ebay for about the same price as an official gorillaz t-shirt. And ... one of the biggest reasons? Stupidity. What kind of person does something like this and then posts it on ebay where once a bid has been placed, it can't be edited?! That's just stupid!

[LilWolfChokingOnCigs68]

Originally Posted by analogika

I doubt that American Spirit (additive-free cigarettes/tobacco) smokers are even the slightest bit better in Rob's eyes...

I think it's better to smoke additive free cigs, for sure. But again, it isn't the idea of smoking that bothers me. If you honestly feel like smoking a knowingly harmful substance that DOESN'T get you high.... that's your perogative. I just have a problem with 'selfish' smokers who will light up whenever they want regardless of who's around (kids, people with asthma, a place with poor ventilation), and then throw their trash on the ground instead of using an ashtray.

Oh, and: LilWolfChokingOnCigs68 <-- I don't get why you pull these idiotic stunts. Do you WANT to get banned? Do you think it garners you respect or something?

I don't really care if I get banned. I have no reason to keep any of these names, they don't mean anything to me. The only moniker I actually liked and tried to keep was my "Cash68" one.

[budster101]

Originally Posted by LilWolfChokingOnCigs68

It is true. Pot is more harmful than filtered cigarettes. But I don't care that it's harmful, I just want people to pick up after themselves. People don't generally toss wrappers and soda cans out of their cars... why do they think it's okay to toss cigarettes out their windows? The real irony is most cars HAVE an ashtray, but they DON'T have garbage cans. Strange.

I know Rob, you don't care about people. We got that.
People generally DO indeed toss wrappers, cans, bottles, bags, dogs, cats, etc. on the side of the road. People do all these things, and tossing a cigarette butt is the least of your worries. It is in fact PAPER and that is biodegradeable you twit.

No Rob, they don't want the lingering ashe smell in the car that comes with storing the butt in your ashtray. If one smokes with the window open, they can toss the biodegradeable butt out the window...

Anyway, about pot, all the pot smokers I know don't smoke cigs, and they smoke pot occasionally, not once a day or 8 times a day like most cigarette smokers. They also don't toss their junk on the ground. And me? I only use a bubbler. Water filtration removes a lot of the bad crap in pot smoke. A vaporizer is supposedly even better.

You know many potheads? Figures. Where do you live Rob? I'll send the police and rat you out like you did that poor guy with the T-shirt on Ebay. You jerk.

Haha. Rob the expert pothead thinks the water filters out the bad crap in Pot smoke.

So you're officially done? Never again? That sucks. I always wanted to meet you in real life, smoke, and talk religion. Oh well. Personal question though: If you did quit for good... why? Why not just smoke once or twice a year? Aren't you the one who was saying moderation is key in everything?

It's addictive. He stated that. I know someone that took a year to quit pot as well. He said the headaches were so intense he wanted to kill someone. You think it isn't addictive genius? Try and quit the ganga, weed, chronic, meechuachon, mary jane... Go ahead tough guy.

[Mrjinglesusa]

Won't matter budster. Rob doesn't agree with tthe law against marijuana so it's OK for him to smoke it. That's why he is nothing but a hypocrite.

[budster101]

Originally Posted by LilWolfChokingOnCigs68

I think it's better to smoke additive free cigs, for sure. But again, it isn't the idea of smoking that bothers me. If you honestly feel like smoking a knowingly harmful substance that DOESN'T get you high.... that's your perogative. I just have a problem with 'selfish' smokers who will light up whenever they want regardless of who's around (kids, people with asthma, a place with poor ventilation), and then throw their trash on the ground instead of using an ashtray.



I don't really care if I get banned. I have no reason to keep any of these names, they don't mean anything to me. The only moniker I actually liked and tried to keep was my "Cash68" one.

Rob, go out and buy a clue.

Cigarettes contain substances that do in fact act like seritonin (sp), which are usually released in the brain for various reasons and times which make one feel good. People smoke because in fact it does have a chemical effect on their brain. Not because they like to fill their lungs with smoke you simpleton.

Now it's smokers that light up where-ever... and whenever. When does that happen Rob?
You can't smoke in restaraunts for the most part, outside ok with you? In one's own car?

Not much means anything to you Rob. Just your stupid POS car. Glad you can't get Cash68 back evar. You suck.

[turtle777]

Oh, I feel like dancing...



-t

[budster101]

Originally Posted by LilWolfChokingOnCigs68

Because I like the band. I don't think people should be downloading art of their website, then running it through photoshop to get it black and white, and then selling the shirt on ebay for about the same price as an official gorillaz t-shirt. And ... one of the biggest reasons? Stupidity. What kind of person does something like this and then posts it on ebay where once a bid has been placed, it can't be edited?! That's just stupid!

DId you contact the band asshat? Maybe they (like Greenday) don't give a sh!t about who does what with their music or art work. It's all advertising for them you twit.

Wow 1 shirt for $15.00 How Horrible!!!!

They probably did more good for the band on that auction in the way of advertising than you have ever done for anyone. Evar.

[budster101]

Lock it up. I'm done whipping his butt all over this thread... PUN INTENDED.

[LilWolfChokingOnCigs68]

Originally Posted by Mrjinglesusa

Won't matter budster. Rob doesn't agree with tthe law against marijuana so it's OK for him to smoke it. That's why he is nothing but a hypocrite.

How's that? It is WRONG to throw your trash on the ground not because it's illegal, but because it's BAD. It pollutes, it takes a long long time for things to decompose, and it hurts the environment. Plus it looks trashy. That is WHY it became illegal.

THUS, right and wrong existed before legality, something your pea brain obviously can't manage to swallow.

[budster101]

It's illegal because it is bad...

It takes but a few months for a cigarette butt to decompose. Really doesn't mean much in the way of what you are feebly trying to pontificate.

You will never see a person pulled over for tossing out a cigarette butt. Only things like flipping the bird to a police officer. Parking illegally. Speeding. Smoking Pot. All bad, all illegal.

Brains don't swallow, you do.

[LilWolfChokingOnCigs68]

It takes 10 years.

http://www.ucsbdailynexus.com/news/2005/9748.html

[Mrjinglesusa]

Originally Posted by LilWolfChokingOnCigs68

How's that? It is WRONG to throw your trash on the ground not because it's illegal, but because it's BAD. It pollutes, it takes a long long time for things to decompose, and it hurts the environment. Plus it looks trashy. That is WHY it became illegal.

THUS, right and wrong existed before legality, something your pea brain obviously can't manage to swallow.

And WHY did marijuana become illegal? Because it is BAD. Memory loss, problems with learning and thinking, increased heart rate, loss of coordination, distorted perception, etc.

Marijuana use also has the potential to promote cancer of the lungs and other parts of the respiratory tract because it contains irritants and carcinogens. In fact, marijuana smoke contains 50 to 70 percent more carcinogenic hydrocarbons than does tobacco smoke.

Swallow that hypocrite.

[LilWolfChokingOnCigs68]

http://www.cigarettelitter.org/index...geName=Smokers

http://www.surfshot.com/items/magazi...mp;item_id=407

http://www.surfrider.org/a-z/cig_but.asp

You are wrong.

[budster101]

I'm going to send you a Greenpeace application. They love people like you. Mostly imbalanced.

Job Application: Links to Greenpeace

Under the interests and Hobbies section, just put a link to your posts in MacNN. They'll hire you on the spot.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by m a d r a

i think that was a pretty shitty thing to do. with all the wankers in the world who are deserving of your odium, why do you always save it for someone who's never done YOU personally any harm?

unlike a lot of the folks on here, i've actually always quite liked you, rob - because you're quite entertaining and, at the end of the day "sticks and stones...." and all that, but i'm afraid on this occasion, you're getting a resounding from the irish judge!

Same here, I've been one to usually stick up for Rob. But here lately, he set his spaz on kill. When before it was just set on stun.