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historylme · Aug 24, 2005, 04:36 PM

It gives a new "shade" to WW II and how it looked from the German point of view.

http://www.spiegel.de/flash/0,5532,10269,00.html

Let's hope a third world war never happens (This is not political, I coming from a humanist perspective. I hope such wholesale slaughter never happens again... however, I know the ability resides still in the human character).

[this is link from digg.com]

macaddict0001 · Aug 25, 2005, 05:40 AM

Wow. That is great. Its not often you see something from the point of view of the "enemy". My grandfather has a book with about 400 pages of the first world war, pictures of important military figures, pictures of the fighting etc. Copyrighted in the 1920"s, he picked it up later though.

Mastrap · Aug 25, 2005, 05:58 AM

I think the most ominous picture is the one of the two lovers on the beach. In all likelihood they were planning a life together just like we do with our partners today. Chances are that at least one of them didn't survive the war.

Kevin · Aug 25, 2005, 06:24 AM

No "slant" or "hidden agenda" on that at all.

No sir reebob.

d.fine · Aug 25, 2005, 06:33 AM

Thx for the link

LilWolfChokingOnCigs68 · Aug 25, 2005, 07:21 AM

Yay. 8 pictures.

production_coordinator · Aug 25, 2005, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

I think the most ominous picture is the one of the two lovers on the beach. In all likelihood they were planning a life together just like we do with our partners today. Chances are that at least one of them didn't survive the war.

To add to that... they were in a bomb crater.

Goldfinger · Aug 25, 2005, 07:38 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

No "slant" or "hidden agenda" on that at all.

No sir reebob.

Mastrap · Aug 25, 2005, 07:41 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

No "slant" or "hidden agenda" on that at all.

No sir reebob.

What?

Kevin · Aug 25, 2005, 07:53 AM

Do the math.

LilWolfChokingOnCigs68 · Aug 25, 2005, 07:55 AM

I don't get it either. What slant are you talking about? It never says nazis were the good guys.... are you smoking crack again?

badidea · Aug 25, 2005, 07:57 AM

Kevin seems to see some similarities...but to whom???

zerostar · Aug 25, 2005, 07:58 AM

to the paranoid everyone has an agenda

wdlove · Aug 25, 2005, 09:35 AM

Nice pictures.

Wiskedjak · Aug 25, 2005, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by macaddict0001

Wow. That is great. Its not often you see something from the point of view of the "enemy". My grandfather has a book with about 400 pages of the first world war, pictures of important military figures, pictures of the fighting etc. Copyrighted in the 1920"s, he picked it up later though.

My grandfather fought in the German army. Lotsa pics in the family albumn. Interestingly, pics of the German side from a foot soldier's perspective look alot like pics of the Allies side from a foot soldier's perspective.

Mastrap · Aug 25, 2005, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Do the math.

Sorry, I have no idea what you're talking about. What Math? The magazine publishing these images could not ever, even by the most paranoid, be accused to push anything resembling a Nazi agenda.

So, what do you mean?

xi_hyperon · Aug 25, 2005, 09:54 AM

I don't understand what the "slant" could be. Please explain the math, as I was never very good at it.

Personally, I found it very interesting. Thanks for the link.

euphras · Aug 25, 2005, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by production_coordinator

To add to that... they were in a bomb crater.

You´re kiddin

historylme · 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by xi_hyperon

I don't understand what the "slant" could be.

I think he was referring to my statement of not making this thread into a political issue.

I'm with Mastrap, the picture of the two lovers under the swastika is really "ominous." (good word) They were just people and chances are that yes one of them probably didn't make it. It was weird, for I thought of my pictures with those that I loved, but it was a weird reaction to seeing the swastika. Amazing what a symbol invokes.

The other one that I found "interesting" is of the soldier posing in the toppled statue. I think that if I was in the front lines, I would pose for similar pictures (like Wiskedjak said).

iDriveX · Aug 25, 2005, 11:56 AM

You have to wonder just how much these very low level, enlisted German foot soldiers knew. I find it hard for them to justify invading, unprovoked, France and Poland and others. But I highly doubt the low level enlisted guys knew about the genocide and the camps. But then again, they had rallys they would go to where Hitler would make speeches about a master race, etc. That HAS to set off red flags (no pun intended) in your head!

I guess it would be a lot more comforting to say "there were a few bad apples at the top and no one else knew what was going on" instead of "everyone should have known what went on and there was an entire country of evil people."

demograph68 · Aug 25, 2005, 11:56 AM

Watch The Third Reich In Color

Kevin · Aug 25, 2005, 12:03 PM

Lets see.

"The Lies of a preventative war" + Pic of good ole boy group

"Unnecessary Bombardment" + Pics of bombed City.

"Insulting Monuments" + Pic of a statue tore down and pummeled.

"An Army Out of Control" + Pic of soldiers abusing prisoners.

Now, Look at the Iraq war. The main points made during it by those against it.

I am sure it was PURELY coincidence.

turtle777 · Aug 25, 2005, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Now, Look at the Iraq war. The main points made during it by those against it. I am sure it was PURELY coincidence.

So you are accusing The Spiegel to make Anti-US propaganda by showing WW II pictures with comments ? Suurrreeee

-t

Kevin · Aug 25, 2005, 12:13 PM

Naw, I am just trying to make this thread more interesting.

Scandalous Ion Cannon · Aug 25, 2005, 12:26 PM

I like the one of Hitler with all the chicks. He was bigger than Jesus!

turtle777 · Aug 25, 2005, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Naw, I am just trying to make this thread more interesting.

Well then, this thread needs more boobies

-t

historylme · Aug 25, 2005, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Well then, this thread needs more boobies

-t

I'm cool with that... but please, in keeping with the theme of this thread, let's make'm historical.

here's my first find

Doofy · Aug 25, 2005, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Well then, this thread needs more boobies

There ya go:

xi_hyperon · Aug 25, 2005, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Naw, I am just trying to make this thread more interesting.

Sorry, but the same PL bullsh*t is not interesting. Keep it in there please. I'm with history1me, let's keep it historical. Either that, or add boobies as was suggested (and not the kind pictured above ^

).

historylme · 02:29 PM

[removed oversize image --tooki]
how's this?

demograph68 · Aug 25, 2005, 01:06 PM

This thread was a success. I saw... I came... I changed my shorts.

historylme · 03:09 PM

OOH, I was tookinated.

okay then
[removed oversize image. --tooki]

baw · Aug 25, 2005, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by LilWolfChokingOnCigs68

Yay. 8 pictures.

tooki · Aug 25, 2005, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by history1me

OOH, I was tookinated.

No, you broke the rules. And then did it again on purpose. Not smart, you know.

tooki

historylme · Aug 25, 2005, 03:32 PM

No, technically, I don't go by dimensions. I thought it fell under the guidelines so I put it up there... guess I was wrong. No harm intended.

tooki · Aug 25, 2005, 03:45 PM

Well, the rules are very specific (though I actually do allow some leeway). Specific rules means it's very clear as to whether a rule is being broken or not. Inline images need to be no wider than 480px.

tooki

budster101 · Aug 25, 2005, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by LilWolfChokingOnCigs68

Yay. 8 pictures.

I think they should make you an administrator around here. That way you could ban anyone that disagrees with you... which pretty much means everyone but a few a-holes like yourself.

historylme · Aug 25, 2005, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by tooki

Well, the rules are very specific (though I actually do allow some leeway). Specific rules means it's very clear as to whether a rule is being broken or not. Inline images need to be no wider than 480px.
tooki

I made it a point to look it up on the guidlines. Now I know, and knowing...

here some more:
She looks amazing, I don't want to think on how she would look now.

analogika · Aug 25, 2005, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Lets see.

"The Lies of a preventative war" + Pic of good ole boy group

"Unnecessary Bombardment" + Pics of bombed City.

"Insulting Monuments" + Pic of a statue tore down and pummeled.

"An Army Out of Control" + Pic of soldiers abusing prisoners.

Now, Look at the Iraq war. The main points made during it by those against it.

I am sure it was PURELY coincidence.

That is an insanely stupid post.

Of course, you'll claim you were just kidding, and the smiley proves it, but hell...

Kevin · Aug 25, 2005, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

That is an insanely stupid post.

Of course, you'll claim you were just kidding, and the smiley proves it, but hell...

Keep reading the rest of the thread.

ironknee · Aug 25, 2005, 10:15 PM

"Now i'm schoolgirl complextion all over."

iDriveX · Aug 26, 2005, 02:10 AM

I gave a girl "schoolgirl complexion all over" her face once.

villalobos · Aug 26, 2005, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Naw, I am just trying to make this thread more interesting.

These pics were interesting by themselves and did not need your comments.

analogika · Aug 26, 2005, 07:12 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Keep reading the rest of the thread.

You mean the silliness that started AFTER you posted your, er, "funny" (assessment? opinion? idiocy? whatever)?

Kevin · Aug 26, 2005, 07:13 AM

strictlyplaid · Aug 26, 2005, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Lets see.

"The Lies of a preventative war" + Pic of good ole boy group

"Unnecessary Bombardment" + Pics of bombed City.

"Insulting Monuments" + Pic of a statue tore down and pummeled.

"An Army Out of Control" + Pic of soldiers abusing prisoners.

Now, Look at the Iraq war. The main points made during it by those against it.

I am sure it was PURELY coincidence.

Glad to see you're finally admitting that Bush acts just like the Nazis.

chris v · Aug 26, 2005, 08:45 AM

Originally Posted by strictlyplaid

Glad to see you're finally admitting that Bush acts just like the Nazis.

Exactly. Methinks he doth protest too much.

What else coud he mean? That he bombing of Rotterdam was justified? That the invasion of Russia WAS a preventative strike?

Zim, are you pro Nazi or something?

Kevin · Aug 26, 2005, 08:50 AM

turtle777 · Aug 26, 2005, 08:51 AM

-t

davesimondotcom · Aug 26, 2005, 08:55 AM

Some of those photos were amazing.

Sort of like being able to be in the inner circle when all of the insanity was happening.

The hardest one to look at for me was the soldier executing the civilians. His gun was still smoking. Terrible.