[baw]

Southern California

[sek929]

She needs premium dude! Premium! Dude!

[buggsuperstar]

That soungs like Lil Bandit.... and she's in PAIN!

[Atomic Rooster]

Wait till after Katrina.

[sek929]

But yeah, get used to it.

I'm not very concerned at all. I just need to allot more money towards fuel each month and also drive less. I'm glad my POS takes regular

[Atomic Rooster]

Originally Posted by sek929

POS

I got one of those too.

[sek929]

It was at least a peice of crap when I bought it, but last winter was Buh-rutal on it. Looking forward to this winter

[rickey939]

Wake me up at $11,000,000,000/gallon.

[Link]

ELEVENTY BILLION!

Suddenly this doesn't look too bad:


They hold lots of cargo too!



driving with a broom-mop put together and a rope tied to the steering wheel may void your insurance policy, land you in the back of a mattress truck, and/or get your license suspended by the police! Drive with care!

[sek929]

This doesn't seem so bad either.

[G4ME]

thats still to fancy for my blood.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by G4ME

thats still to fancy for my blood.

to fancy for your blood? Sounds very Shakespearean... to fancy or not to fancy, that is the question!

Sorry to be so fancy here, I think what you really meant to say was "that's still too fancy for my blood"

[Link]

I have a personal rule about bikes..

Never buy one with the seat higher than the handlebars. Something about having my butt higher in the air than my hands sounds wrong.

[sek929]

The seat is adjustable, it looks like its all the way up in that pic.

I love Gary Fischers BTW

[phantomdragonz]

I recently bought a motorcycle... it gets 60Mpg... but I end up riding it for fun, so In the end I burn more fuel...

but my car gets good gas milage... and the jeep gets very little use now adays...

I have a Sugar 3+ Disk... fun to ride..

Zach

[macaddict0001]

$3.17, up in canada, after translating currency and litres/gallons.

[JoshuaZ]

I guess I'm happy to have sold my car and moved to a country with a great public transportation system. Now all I need is a bike with more then one gear on it.... but on the upside it has a cool basket.

[Eriamjh]

Originally Posted by sek929

She needs premium dude! Premium! Dude!

Thanks, Snake.

[turtle777]

Not according to Gaspricewatch.

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/new/

What is this place ?

-t

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by sek929

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This doesn't seem so bad either.

Bikes seem pretty awful to me. I mean, if I don't actually need to go anywhere, they're fine, but call me when it's easily possible to get 70 mph for most of your trip on a bike.

[MacNStein]

Originally Posted by turtle777

Not according to Gaspricewatch.

http://www.gaspricewatch.com/new/

What is this place ?

-t

Probably a full service station in the middle of the desert. Not very surprising.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by MacNStein

Probably a full service station in the middle of the desert. Not very surprising.

Well, I see water in the background. Could be a marina or something.

-t

[MacNStein]

Originally Posted by turtle777

Well, I see water in the background. Could be a marina or something.

-t

Yeah, that's very likely. Fuel prices are ridiculous in those places, even before the recent price spikes.

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

That's Catalina Island, which always has higher than average gas prices. (Notice the vehicle being fueled is a golf cart.)

[wdlove]

Ouch! Sadly the profit rises also.

[jorgem4]

Boy I am blag I bought my motorcycle...a little Buell Blast....69-72 MPG !!! Can't beat that.

I just hope gas prices go down before it starts getting to cold to ride.

[ReggieX]

Originally Posted by sek929

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This doesn't seem so bad either.

You don't want a mountain bike for commuting any real distance, a street bike or hybrid is geared higher to go faster. MTBs are all about low gearing for hills.

[sek929]

Yeah but street bike's wimpy little tires couldn't handle city life.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE

That's Catalina Island, which always has higher than average gas prices. (Notice the vehicle being fueled is a golf cart.)

How the heck did you recognize Catalina from that photo?

[mojo2]

Well, I've done a little bit of reading on the subject ( ) and the prediction is that once everyone is at $4/gal we will THEN begin to alter our consumption in earnest.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by mojo2

Well, I've done a little bit of reading on the subject and the prediction is that once everyone is at $4/gal we will THEN begin to alter our consumption in earnest.

Fixinated.

-t

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by turtle777

Fixinated.

-t

With as much bitchin as we see and hear about THREE DOLLARS A GALLON and with the realization many people have that we've achieved the dreaded point in history of PEAK OIL, you'd think big time conservation and real energy education/awareness would have happened a while ago.

I'll bet most of you don't even know what Peak Oil is and what it means for us as individuals, as a nation (USA) and to mankind.

[ajprice]

$4?? Try £4 a gallon ($7), its pushing £1 per litre here in the UK.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by mojo2

With as much bitchin as we see and hear about THREE DOLLARS A GALLON and with the realization many people have that we've achieved the dreaded point in history of PEAK OIL, you'd think big time conservation and real energy education/awareness would have happened a while ago.

I'll bet most of you don't even know what Peak Oil is and what it means for us as individuals, as a nation (USA) and to mankind.

You know, today, I saw again dozens of SUVs parked at Sonic's, with running engines and full A/C on, while they are having their lunch. 15 minutes, 20 minutes, whatever it takes.

I doubt that they'll learn ANYTHING from higher gas prices...

-t

[sek929]

I second what turtle said, people will complain but it won't stop them from comsuming gas at the same rate as before.

[chris v]

Originally Posted by baw

Southern California

Wow, if those prices keep up, he might have to *gasp* walk the golf course.

The horror.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by chris v

Wow, if those prices keep up, he might have to *gasp* walk the golf course. The horror.

-t

[CRASH HARDDRIVE]

Originally Posted by Chuckit

How the heck did you recognize Catalina from that photo?

There's only one gas station on the island. I was just there not long ago actually and gassed up my own rental 'golf cart' at that very pump.

The golf carts aren't just to play golf- they're actually among the only gas-powered transportation allowed on the island so everyone drives them. Come to think of it, I wouldn't mind driving to work in a golf cart vehicle rather than a car here on the mainland. If these prices keep up, that may become a reality.

[ReggieX]

Originally Posted by sek929

Yeah but street bike's wimpy little tires couldn't handle city life.

Not true, you just use the better tires.

[sek929]

Well, uh, you wouldn't look as badass

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by turtle777

You know, today, I saw again dozens of SUVs parked at Sonic's, with running engines and full A/C on, while they are having their lunch. 15 minutes, 20 minutes, whatever it takes.

I doubt that they'll learn ANYTHING from higher gas prices...

-t

turtle and sek, the analysts ALL say the magic number is $4.00 a gallon. That's when people will begin to change their habits. Not EVERYONE, but the mass will be moved.

[sek929]

Thats about 70 bucks to fill my car.

But I'm still going to have to drive, I dunno, we'll see...

(Here's hoping for that 4 cyclinder Tacoma)

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by sek929

Thats about 70 bucks to fill my car.

But I'm still going to have to drive, I dunno, we'll see...

(Here's hoping for that 4 cyclinder Tacoma)

That's why we see so many bikes and Vespas and small cars in Britain and Europe. No cheap Gas.

President Bush decried cheap gas early on.

George W. Bush: Energy plan is about reducing oil imports, not cheap energy

I once made the mistake of suggesting to Bush that he use the phrase cheap energy to describe the aims of his energy policy. He gave me a sharp, squinting look. Cheap energy, he answered, was how we got into this mess. Every year from the early 1970s until the mid-1990s, American cars burned less and less oil per mile traveled. Then in about 1995 that progress stopped. Why? He answered his own question: Because of the gas-guzzling SUV. And what had made the SUV craze possible? This time I answered, "Um, cheap energy?" He nodded at me. Dismissed.
But if Bush was no energy free-marketeer, neither did he share the crusading zeal of the environmental Left. For Bush, the point of energy conservation was not for Americans to USE less, but for Americans to IMPORT less. For him, energy was first and foremost a national security issue. He had warned in 2000, "As a result of our foreign oil imports skyrocketing, America is at the mercy more than ever of foreign governments and cartels."
Source: The Right Man, by David Frum, p. 65-66

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by mojo2

turtle and sek, the analysts ALL say the magic number is $4.00 a gallon.

The analysts say a lot of different things, depending on what side bribed them. You don't really believe it just because they are TEH ANALYSTS, do you ?

-t

[sek929]

Analysts said it was the apocalypse for New Orleans just last night.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by mojo2

That's why we see so many bikes and Vespas and small cars in Britain and Europe. No cheap Gas.

President Bush decried cheap gas early on.

This is an interesting theory. Frum is basically saying that the Free Market should dictate to manufacturers that they should produce energy-efficient products (such as vechicles) because they are feeling the pressure from expensive gas.

The only problem with it is that the people who are going to be able to upgrade their vehicles to something that is more energy efficient are the rich, while the middle class and the poor continue to feel the pinch.

This is more of his Reagan-style trickle-down economics.

I'm not an economist, but I do think there is a widening gap between the extreme wealthy and extreme poor, caused in part by these sorts of economic policies that are designed to make the rich their primary benefactors.

[iMOTOR]

Originally Posted by CRASH HARDDRIVE

they're actually among the only gas-powered transportation allowed on the island so everyone drives them.

?? last time I was on Catalina, I saw several old ford broncos.

Originally Posted by sek929

Well, uh, you wouldn't look as badass

you wouldn't look as BAMF

[sek929]

hehe

[DeathMan]

Originally Posted by besson3c

I'm not an economist, but I do think there is a widening gap between the extreme wealthy and extreme poor, caused in part by these sorts of economic policies that are designed to make the rich their primary benefactors.

I don't know if I'd say the policy was designed for the rich, but rather the rich will, as always, be the ones who can move the soonest. Economically oil prices are very inelastic, but that doesn't mean that they're completely rigid either. You had it right about how economics work though. The change happens, the rich benefit first because of their flexibility, and this benefit trickles down the ladder.

Changing where we get oil from may benefit local energy and fuel producers, but to say that this move is for the benefit of the rich is off base. Its for the benefit of all of us, the rich simply see the results first.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by besson3c

This is an interesting theory. Frum is basically saying that the Free Market should dictate to manufacturers that they should produce energy-efficient products (such as vechicles) because they are feeling the pressure from expensive gas.

The only problem with it is that the people who are going to be able to upgrade their vehicles to something that is more energy efficient are the rich, while the middle class and the poor continue to feel the pinch.

This is more of his Reagan-style trickle-down economics.

I'm not an economist, but I do think there is a widening gap between the extreme wealthy and extreme poor, caused in part by these sorts of economic policies that are designed to make the rich their primary benefactors.

Let's work THIS problem first, ok? You know, the $4.00 a gallon thingy???

The re-distribution of wealth thing can wait til later, don't you think? Or maybe that is more important...

Maybe a dual-purpose thread, "expensive gas & trickle-down economics?"