[mac-kerouac]

Did you just see that?

quote: "George Bush does not care about black people"

Mike Meyers face was priceless!!!

[misc]

Made me laugh incredibly hard. So funny!

Boy the Technical Director was really shitting himself after that one. Thank god he didn't make the camera switch earlier.

Classic!

Edit: It's Kanye West, btw..

[Captain Obvious]

Not new. He is talented but not very bright. Plus he needs to get the sh!t smacked out of him. In that respect he's quite typical of that cross section of the south side. He grew up under the thumb of Jesse jackson's influence so I am not surprised he says stuff like that every chance he gets.
He can say goodbye to the Pepsi endorsement.

[air]

is there a link to anything?

[misc]

Originally Posted by air

is there a link to anything?

None that I can find yet. It happened on live T.V. (NBC). I'm sure a video will be up soon.

[PacHead]

Didn't kanye west say some equally as dumb stuff at the Live 8 concert also ?

[SpaceMonkey]

Haha. Yeah, I just saw it too. Mike Myers looked so awkward. I'm convinced the only reason they didn't cut away earlier was because Kanye's original rant (before they switched back to him and he said his Bush comment) was so incoherent. I don't think the tech director really knew what he was saying at first. I know I didn't.

[IceEnclosure]

I didn't see it. But I'm crackin' up.

I want an mpeg please.

I like Kanye, but he says silly things.

[misc]

http://www.juiceenewsdaily.com/0605/...?1125709350109

Good luck. Very slow...

[Captain Obvious]

http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79

belligerent and stupid, nice combo

[PacHead]

Damn, they won't be getting any of my money.

Let kanye west give up all of his money, he has plenty I'm sure.

[MacMan4000]

thats the funniest thing i've seen all week.!

[Millennium]

I can't see it either. Anyone have a transcript or something?

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by Millennium

I can't see it either. Anyone have a transcript or something?

The link from Captain Obvious worked for me.

Pachead's translation>>>>

KANYE The black people, the ugh, the less well off as slow as possible. I mean, this is, Red Cross is doing everything they can, we, we already realize alot of the people that could help are at war right now fighting another way, they, they've, they've given their permission to go down and shoot us.

MYERS And subtle but in even many ways more profoundly devestating is the lasting damage to the survivors will to rebuild and remain in the area. The destruction of the spirit of the people of southern Louisiana and Mississipi may end up being the most tragic loss of all.

DUMBASS KANYE George Bush doesn't care about black people.

(Strange silence and dumb looks follows)

The end

[budster101]

Originally Posted by PacHead

The link from Captain Obvious worked for me.

Pachead's translation>>>>

KANYE The black people, the ugh, the less well off as slow as possible. I mean, this is, Red Cross is doing everything they can, we, we already realize alot of the people that could help are at war right now fighting another way, they, they've, they've given their permission to go down and shoot us.

MYERS And subtle but in even many ways more profoundly devestating is the lasting damage to the survivors will to rebuild and remain in the area. The destruction of the spirit of the people of southern Louisiana and Mississipi may end up being the most tragic loss of all.

DUMBASS KANYE George Bush doesn't care about black people.

(Strange silence and dumb looks follows)

The end

Put that dumbass Kayne on a Plane and ship his ass down there to help out. That guy needs to STFU.

[mathew_m]

Yep, pretty stupid. I actually viewed it live. Definitely uncomfortable but expected. Most people with a brain would understand that this was a relief concert where you probably had a large, diverse section of the United States tuning in. Regardless of what people think of Bush, most white people probably took some sort of offense to the comment. I'm sure many more tuned out afterwards probably costing thousands in donations. NBC and the Red Cross should tap the nielsen ratings to see what of kind of viewership was lost and then charge it to this nimrod's booty account.

[budster101]

I just saw on the news an entire retirement home of 50 people were found dead. ALL OF THEM.

Where was the staff?
What happened?

Thousands are dying. There are Hospitals without power... people who need insulin, Oxygen, and are going to be dying very soon! My heart is breaking. I've managed to avoid most coverage because of my family tragedy, but I'm now watching this and I'm getting upset.

[max5]

hahah it was on the news tonight, he said " Bush hates black people "

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by max5

hahah it was on the news tonight, he said " Bush hates black people "

To be accurate, he said:

DUMBASS KANYE George Bush doesn't care about black people.

[max5]

hahah sorry, I knew it was in that ball park...

[IceEnclosure]

Hysterical!

[TETENAL]

Maybe he appears to be stupid because he speaks some kind of black culture language? (this was discussed here before, but the name of the language escapes me now) It's a common misjudgement that people who speak the language differently (foreign dialect, accent) are perceived as dumb, while in fact they might not be.

[Captain Obvious]

Originally Posted by TETENAL

Maybe he appears to be stupid because he speaks some kind of black culture language? (this was discussed here before, but the name of the language escapes me now) It's a common misjudgement that people who speak the language differently (foreign dialect, accent) are perceived as dumb, while in fact they might not be.

Yeah, I don't think so.
I am going to go by things like this to make my judgment on his intelligence, and I quote:

"I would rather take that chance because it's important for my people. The concept of AIDS alone - my parents always told me, who are activists - that it's a man-made disease in the first place that was placed in Africa (to eradicate blacks) just like crack was placed in the black community to break up the Black Panther (black activists) party.

I think my call is right and you are wrong.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by TETENAL

Maybe he appears to be stupid because he speaks some kind of black culture language? (this was discussed here before, but the name of the language escapes me now) It's a common misjudgement that people who speak the language differently (foreign dialect, accent) are perceived as dumb, while in fact they might not be.

No, not at all. He doesn't speak particularly ghettoish (ebonics was the word you were looking for I believe). He is an ignorant racist fool because of his comments and beliefs which come across very clearly in his statements.

[BasketofPuppies]

What was NBC thinking using Kanye West on a live fundraiser television program? The man has said controversial and questionable things many times before, including on live television.

When the purpose of your program is to raise money for charity, you certainly don't want to give people reasons not to. Hopefully people offended by West's comments will realize they were his own opinions and not those of General Electric, its child companies, NBC and PAX affiliates, and the other presenters and performers on the program.

[budster101]

I believe someone someday is going to shoot that man in the ass.

Wait, sorry: I didn't mean to alienate anyone else in the audience who might be ghetto.
I'll translate that:

I believe someone someday iz going ta smoke dat nig in da
ass.

[deomacius]

Originally Posted by budster101

I believe someone someday is going to shoot that man in the ass.

Wait, sorry: I didn't mean to alienate anyone else in the audience who might be ghetto.
I'll translate that:

I believe someone someday iz going ta smoke dat nig in da
ass.

Huh. I had a lot of respect for you before this comment. There's no doubt that Kanye's tirade was in poor taste and based on lack of knowledge. But the fact that there are still people that believe this kind of stuff should speak volumes about how some blacks still perceive white people's actions. Stated another way... when you're in control (read caucasian male) everything seems fine and dandy. When you aren't (read any other ethnic class in the US) nothing seems to go your way.

Please don't assume that I necessarily subscribe to the above statement. But there is a great deal of truth in it from what I've observed in my life.

[budster101]

You must not have had much respect for me, and if you did, you didn't understand me. I hate racism. My father-in-law is a racist and it bothers me. I made that comment to be funny, and that's it. What is funny about it, is it will never happen. That racist idiot is going to gain supporters in his community and the black on white racism will increase. That is the sad truth.

I don't see color when I meet a person. All I have to do is listen to determine if I like them or not.

This was his second such racist comment in an event for CHARITY, and he makes me sick. When I heard what the man said the first time, I had no idea he was black. I never knew who he was, all I heard was this guy got up and said racist and rude comments. The only clue as to what color he was, would have been his name, and they got that wrong. I heard CAIN, not Kayne.

So, I was just trying to be funny. That doesn't diminish what this scumbag idiot said. I don't wish someone to shoot him in the ass, after he shot his own mouth off... do what I do. I just don't patronize anything he does. Same went for the Dixie Chicks. Don't like what they say? Don't buy their things. Simple.

I think he did a serious disservice to the charity event. I'm certain people slowed their giving after he made that obviously stupid and mean-spirited political comment.

Sorry to dissapoint. I mean no evil.

[IceEnclosure]

it's KANYE, not kayne.

He seemed nervous to be saying the things he said. He felt very strongly about it.

Ill-advised I'm sure, funny-as-all-hell, but yeah.. speak yo mind, nucca! (just maaayybe not at live major fundraising event)

AMERICA!

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by IceEnclosure

it's KANYE, not kayne.

Sorry, that scumbag doesn't deserve any capital letters. It's kanye as far as I'm concerned.

[budster101]

Kanye; Kayne; Stupid MotherF*cker any way you spell his stupid ass name.

Something funny about what he said? I found him to be just above retarded and pathetic, but mostly a racist, mean-spirited, uneducated, thug who has no idea of what he speaks.

[IceEnclosure]

George Bush isn't racist then??

[von Wrangell]

That talentless idiot should use the music to express his feelings instead of talking about the bling bling and b*tches the music has given him.

Something like this would be a better way of delivering the message:

Excerpt from Letter to the President by 2pac:

Heavenly Father may I holla at you briefly
I wanna meet the President, but will he meet me?
He's scared to look inside the eyes of a Thug ni**a
We tired of bein scapegoats for this capitalistic drug dealin
How hypocritical is Liberty?
That blind bi**h ain't never did s**t for me
My history, full of casket and scars
My own black nation at war, whole family behind bars
And they wonder why we scarred, thirteen lookin hard
Sister had a baby as an adolescent, where was God?
Somewhere in the middle of my mind
is a ni**a on the tightrope, screamin let him die
Can't lie I'm a thug, drownin in my own blood
Lookin for the reason that my momma's strung out on drugs
Down to die, for everything I represent
Meant every word, in my letter to the President

Flame away.

[pathogen]

Originally Posted by IceEnclosure

George Bush isn't racist then??

It doesn't matter if he is or isn't. Conservatives say he isn't, so he isn't. Conservatives are always right. Speak out against the president, you speak out against his fan base.

[Lateralus]

I don't actually disagee with what Kanye said, but I think he made it sound very stupid by... being stupid.

[IceEnclosure]

Originally Posted by Lateralus

I don't actually disagee with what Kanye said, but I think he made it sound very stupid by... being stupid.

agreed.

btw, I love everyone saying he's talentless. and everyone cursing and getting upset. Like he just spoke bad about your grandfather.

Kanye is the biggest producer in hip hop right now. His newest album is also on top of the commercial hip-hop heap.

Just sayin'.

[Atomic Rooster]

Sounds like me during my High School speeches. As I listened to myself speak nothing seemed to make sense.

As for Bush not liking black folk, I saw him hugging 2 nice cuties on CNN in Mississippi. They were both crying and one had her head on his shoulder. In fact I saw it about 20 times as it was shown over and over again on various news programs.

Quite touching really.

[spacefreak]

I'm thinking that perhaps Kayne West can't read. I think Myers may have thought that at first as well.

[Captain Obvious]

Originally Posted by von Wrangell

That talentless idiot should use the music to express his feelings instead of talking about the bling bling and b*tches the music has given him.

Something like this would be a better way of delivering the message:


Flame away.

Tupac died in what 97? So why the hell would anyone care about this but Clinton.

Either way, Kanye or Tupac excellent role models for black youth!

[von Wrangell]

Originally Posted by IceEnclosure

agreed.

btw, I love everyone saying he's talentless. and everyone cursing and getting upset. Like he just spoke bad about your grandfather.

Kanye is the biggest producer in hip hop right now. His newest album is also on top of the commercial hip-hop heap.

Just sayin'.

Talent has nothing to do with being top of the commercial side of "music" today.

[BlueSky]

Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster

As for Bush not liking black folk, I saw him hugging 2 nice cuties on CNN in Mississippi. They were both crying and one had her head on his shoulder. In fact I saw it about 20 times as it was shown over and over again on various news programs.

Quite touching really.

Ah, the desired results, manifest already.

I found it quite empty, considering it was a photo-op and nothing more. Look for more to come.

[von Wrangell]

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

Tupac died in what 97? So why the hell would anyone care about this but Clinton.

13th of September 1996.

And being Captain Obvious you seem to seriously fail in reading what I post. It was an example of using the music for the political message instead of using the music for the bling bling and b*tches which is the only thing that is rapped about today (on the commercial side of hip hop and rap).

Either way, Kanye or Tupac excellent role models for black youth!

Since you are probably quite ignorant of the history of 2Pac (except the bad stuff) I'm just gonna say that it all depends on your perspective.

[BasketofPuppies]

Accusing President Bush of racism? The "let's attack people because their views differ from our own" crowd has officially jumped the shark.

[BlueSky]

Kanye's remark was inadequate. As far as not caring for people goes, Bush makes no discrimination between races.

[spacefreak]

[toneloco28]

Originally Posted by budster101

You must not have had much respect for me, and if you did, you didn't understand me. I hate racism. My father-in-law is a racist and it bothers me. I made that comment to be funny, and that's it. What is funny about it, is it will never happen. That racist idiot is going to gain supporters in his community and the black on white racism will increase. That is the sad truth.

I don't see color when I meet a person. All I have to do is listen to determine if I like them or not.

This was his second such racist comment in an event for CHARITY, and he makes me sick. When I heard what the man said the first time, I had no idea he was black. I never knew who he was, all I heard was this guy got up and said racist and rude comments. The only clue as to what color he was, would have been his name, and they got that wrong. I heard CAIN, not Kayne.

So, I was just trying to be funny. That doesn't diminish what this scumbag idiot said. I don't wish someone to shoot him in the ass, after he shot his own mouth off... do what I do. I just don't patronize anything he does. Same went for the Dixie Chicks. Don't like what they say? Don't buy their things. Simple.

I think he did a serious disservice to the charity event. I'm certain people slowed their giving after he made that obviously stupid and mean-spirited political comment.

Sorry to dissapoint. I mean no evil.

The phrase "alot of truth is said in jest" comes to mind.... You have made numerous inappropriate assertions and comments, yet only later label them non-serious. You don't see color when you see a person. Just when you hear their name, their dialect, their choice of music, and now their political viewpoints....lol

Or would i make you more comfortable if i phrased it as "your not keepin it real dogg" ? Whats up with that? This will allow you to remain in your shortsighted view of the world, along with the continual perpetuation of stereotypes. Im out

Signed: A Black Dude

[BasketofPuppies]

Originally Posted by spacefreak

http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine...050829_400.jpg

And your point is?

This is not the time for another one of your "liberal media" conspiracies.

[MallyMal]

Originally Posted by toneloco28

The phrase "alot of truth is said in jest" comes to mind.... You have made numerous inappropriate assertions and comments, yet only later label them non-serious. You don't see color when you see a person. Just when you hear their name, their dialect, their choice of music, and now their political viewpoints....lol

Or would i make you more comfortable if i phrased it as "your not keepin it real dogg" ? Whats up with that? This will allow you to remain in your shortsighted view of the world, along with the continual perpetuation of stereotypes. Im out

Signed: A Black Dude

Co-signed

But then again, I notice that a lot around this board in general.

[paul w]

It's not back people, it's poor black people. Jeez Kanye, get it right.

Unless Bush loves them so much he wants to make more and more and more of them.

Which is exactly what has happened over the last 4 years.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by IceEnclosure

agreed.
Kanye is the biggest producer in hip hop right now. His newest album is also on top of the commercial hip-hop heap.

Just sayin'.

So what ? He's still an ignorant racist. A person can sell records and still be a racist.