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Symantec sez: Mac fans living in a "false paradise"
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Sep 19, 2005, 09:47 AM
 
They badmouth Firefox, too:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/09...threat_report/

Sounds to me like the Norton boys are just blowing a lot of hot air. Again.
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Sep 19, 2005, 09:50 AM
 
We just need to be vigilant.

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Sep 19, 2005, 09:54 AM
 
Is that a threat to release more software for our platform again?
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Sep 19, 2005, 10:03 AM
 
Indeed. After reading that I have become so terrified that I am going to my local software reseller to pick up 12 copies of Norton Anti-Virus so that my false paradise can be transformed in to a real paradise (courtesy of Symantec!).
     
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Sep 19, 2005, 10:06 AM
 
They're so transparently angry that Mac users realize at best all of their products are of marginal utility on the Mac, at worst terrifically destructive. I'd also rather trust M$ own mouthpiece, The Slate, when it declares Firefox is superior to IE.

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Sep 19, 2005, 10:06 AM
 
"Symantec predicts this could change in the future."

Says it all really.
     
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Sep 19, 2005, 11:28 AM
 
Originally Posted by Mastrap
"Symantec predicts this could change in the future."

Says it all really.
Oh yeah?! Well I predict the world could end tomorrow.
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Sep 19, 2005, 11:40 AM
 
yeah...

they will change the peaceful situation (no worms, no viruses threaths) tehmselves so they can get more client.

I would not be surprised if the press uncovered that they are the source of many viruses.
     
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Sep 19, 2005, 12:00 PM
 
doesn't matter. their software screws up macs as much as any virus or trojan would.
     
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Sep 19, 2005, 01:15 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
Is that a threat to release more software for our platform again?

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Sep 19, 2005, 01:21 PM
 
The hell of it is, they're right. OSX is better than Windows, and Firefox is better than IE, both because of inherent design issues and because Apple and Mozilla respond more quickly and effectively when security issues are found. However, nobody is invincible, and we as a community have been living in this false sense of invulnerability for too long.
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Sep 19, 2005, 01:39 PM
 
Originally Posted by Millennium
The hell of it is, they're right. OSX is better than Windows, and Firefox is better than IE
Didn't that article actually suggest that Firefox was worse than IE?
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Sep 19, 2005, 01:49 PM
 
Have you ever wondered whether these virus-protection companies are playing a part in the creation of new viruses and trojans in order to increase their sales?
     
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Sep 19, 2005, 01:56 PM
 
I don't think Symantec does, but the company that was the first to protect against that MP3 trojan (in fact, their announcement that they protected against it was the first I heard of it) is mighty sketchy.
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Does anyone know software against these Symantec trojan horses and viruses ?

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Sep 19, 2005, 05:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777
Does anyone know software against these Symantec trojan horses and viruses
Yup. Virex 7.

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Sep 19, 2005, 07:40 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kerrigan
Have you ever wondered whether these virus-protection companies are playing a part in the creation of new viruses and trojans in order to increase their sales?
I have 100% no doubt that happens.
     
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Sep 19, 2005, 08:15 PM
 
I like how people just count the vulns in firefox vs ie and say there were more - well if one vul in ie allows someone to take over your pc versus ten vulns in firefox that make a font look a different color than it should what is more serious?
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Sep 19, 2005, 08:20 PM
 
1) why would symantec worry about the "tiny" mac platform when, i'm sure, they make most of their money with windows virus stuff?

2) unless, they see the tide change?

3) linux people would fix their own viruses

4) =fud

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Sep 19, 2005, 08:47 PM
 
Symantec is just mad at me. When I was an Apple Solutions Consultant, I told people never to put that stuff on their Macs!
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Sep 20, 2005, 07:02 AM
 
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Sep 20, 2005, 09:36 AM
 
Seriously though guys, I'm really starting to get the feeling that we're a little too casual about security on our machines. I'm not interested in spending $80 for a piece of software that makes my computer operate less than stellar (which it's doing right now) but I do expect a time not too far from now when we start seeing Mac Viruses. I think they're right in saying that it is ineveitable. So the question in my mind is, when are we going to see a reliable, transparent security screen? I would like it to come from Apple. I would like to not think about it.
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Sep 20, 2005, 10:47 AM
 
Originally Posted by Kerrigan
Have you ever wondered whether these virus-protection companies are playing a part in the creation of new viruses and trojans in order to increase their sales?
I think your idea here will increase Alcoa's sales of aluminum foil for making hats with. While "Bob's Antivirus and Storm Door Company" might feel the need to slip in a ringer, why would established companies with SO MUCH TO LOSE even consider this. Better hit the supermarket before everyone else stocks up on foil!
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