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mojo2 · Sep 20, 2005, 12:43 AM

dcmacdaddy posed an interesting question. Here it is, in context, but also in BOLD for us to ponder.

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Originally Posted by Railroader
I don't judge anyone. Why are you making this up?

If your comments about VW weren't judgmental (re: the "tough love" comment) then what would you call them? Just an opinion about him? What term would you use to descirbe those specific comments about him and his take on religion?

And you still didn't answer this question below, you just referred me to a previous comment you made?

"Kilbey, shouldn't you treat him nicely regardless of how he treats you and others?"

Am I to take it that you don't feel you always need to treat people nicely? Do you think it is ever acceptable to be willfully not nice to someone?
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On MacNN? Yes.

In real life? With good justification.

The point is, exactly what is good justification to you?

Lateralus · Sep 20, 2005, 12:49 AM

Eh, I try to be nice for the most part but I have no problem unleashing The Fury on judgemental people.

budster101 · Sep 20, 2005, 12:57 AM

I like to be passive agressive, but not too agressively passive.

Salty · Sep 20, 2005, 01:03 AM

Yes.

Railroader · Sep 20, 2005, 04:39 AM

Some people have made it clear they are not to be dealt with nicely.

It is perfectly acceptable if they have earned it. On da 'NN or in "Real Life".

red rocket · Sep 20, 2005, 05:48 AM

I'm nice to nice people. If you feel I'm being unkind to you, that's either because you are too stupid, too locked in your thinking, cannot appreciate the fact that I'm being nice to you even though it may not seem that way at the moment, or maybe you're just an offensive prat who doesn't deserve to be treated nicely.

von Wrangell · Sep 20, 2005, 05:55 AM

I try to be nice to most people (although I desperately fail at that often , damn viking genes

) and those I really don't like I just ignore. That's better for everyone.

Being willfully not nice is just wrong.

Goldfinger · Sep 20, 2005, 05:58 AM

Originally Posted by Salty

Yes.

How Christian of you.

Warung · Sep 20, 2005, 06:07 AM

I hate people who are intentionally rude to you when you first meet them. It's so unnecessary, and only speaks to the limited intellectual and interpersonal capacities of these kinds of people.

I'm usually extremely nice to folks off the back, but if one crosses a certain line for me, that's it. All bets are off...and I know NO boundaries. Physically, verbally doesn't matter.

That's what I somewhat dislike about 'NN. Once the gloves come off, stupid prats march in and press the "abuse" button or lock the thread. Fu<kin' <unts...

There, nice enough for you?

Kevin · Sep 20, 2005, 06:24 AM

Originally Posted by Goldfinger

How Christian of you.

How Human of you.

Mastrap · Sep 20, 2005, 06:38 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

How Human of you.

Hold on a second. Chicken made an absolute statement there, so the rebuke was justified I think. Had he said, "it's human to lose one's temper but as a Christian I strive not to" that would have been a different scenario. Don't you think?

Y3a · Sep 20, 2005, 06:41 AM

I'm a grouchy old Pr1ck and I do good just being 'civil' to folks.

When I ask for info from a techie, or sales folk, and they give me BS, THEN I start being abusive to them.
I have gone so far as to ream out the manager in front of his staff for the poor training and his lack of supervision of his employees when they have tried to BS me.

Rude people get it back 3 fold, and "Professionals" like Vets, Doctors, and management types get it back 10 fold. NO excuse for rudeness, and no excuse for NOT saying I don't know.

dav · Sep 20, 2005, 06:47 AM

no, but i can understand when/how it happens. the bonus is we get to forgive one another.

Mastrap · Sep 20, 2005, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by Y3a

I'm a grouchy old Pr1ck and I do good just being 'civil' to folks.

When I ask for info from a techie, or sales folk, and they give me BS, THEN I start being abusive to them.
I have gone so far as to ream out the manager in front of his staff for the poor training and his lack of supervision of his employees when they have tried to BS me.

Rude people get it back 3 fold, and "Professionals" like Vets, Doctors, and management types get it back 10 fold. NO excuse for rudeness, and no excuse for NOT saying I don't know.

NO excuse for rudeness? So how do you justify your own?

Kevin · 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Mastrap

Hold on a second. Chicken made an absolute statement there, so the rebuke was justified I think. Had he said, "it's human to lose one's temper but as a Christian I strive not to" that would have been a different scenario. Don't you think?

There was times Jesus was willfully not nice.

Ask the merchants in the temple.

John 2:13-16"The Passover of the Jews was near, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple he found people selling cattle, sheep, and doves, and the money changers seated at their tables. Making a whip of cords, he drove all of them out of the temple, both the sheep and the cattle. He also poured out the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. He told those who were selling the doves, "Take these things out of here! Stop making my Father's house a marketplace!"

If something happened like that today, many a few MacNNers would be telling Jesus he wasn't acting very Christian like. You can bet on it.

dcmacdaddy · Sep 20, 2005, 06:54 AM

Originally Posted by mojo2

On MacNN? Yes.

In real life? With good justification.

The point is, exactly what is good justification to you?

Wow, I'm famous. So, my internet fame last what . . . all of 15 seconds?

I too can be quite the miserable jerk to people. But I strive very hard to be decent, but direct, with people. If someone is rude to me I will call them on it and ask them why--Man does this irritate people? (Imagine asking some superior at work why they are talking down to you, that will get someone fired up real quick.) However, it takes some very deliberate stupidity directed towards me before I will unleash the Furies upon someone. Deliberate rudeness . . . not so much.

ghporter · Sep 20, 2005, 08:48 AM

I see a major difference between being "not nice" and being overtly rude. I can not go out of my way to be nice, i.e. not hold the door for people waiting to enter or exit, not alter my path through a crowded mall (particularly when the "stroller moms from hell" are trying to push everyone around!), and so on, and still not be actually "rude." My style and personality just don't let me be rude without a LOT of reason.

Now I do TRY to be nice all the time, but when I (a 6'2"+ tall white guy with a beard and "interesting" hair) am obviously being ignored by the people around me-their little conversation must be vastly more important than the fact that they're blocking the exit, vor example-then being nice is a very low priority for me.