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Sep 25, 2005, 08:05 AM
 
I watched the old Jim Carrey movie The Truman Show on TNT yesterday (I sheepishly admit...). The movie, per IMDB, came out in 1998. There are a few scenes of the control room (located in the moon at the top of the dome). Near the end, they coordinating weather from the control room to try and keep Truman from reaching the edge of the dome. There is a closeup of a screen with a few large slider controls on it, representing wind, rain etc. While the sliders were some random graphic, the menu bar at the top of the screen was unmistakably an OS X/Aqua bar: the blue apple on the left was clear as day. This is from 1998; this was odd to me. Maybe an OS 9/8.6 theme? Coincidence that this was the design used by Apple later? I thought Aqua wasn't even made known until DP3 or so, long after that movie would have been in post production or filming.
     
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Sep 25, 2005, 09:12 AM
 
The only Aqua I remember from 1998 is "I am a Barbie girl, in a Barbie world".
     
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Sep 25, 2005, 10:47 AM
 
Crap, now you've got me searching for the OS X Public Beta again...
     
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Sep 25, 2005, 02:26 PM
 
Public Beta didn't have an Apple menu. I just had a nifty Apple in the center that didn't do anything.
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Sep 25, 2005, 03:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by olePigeon
Public Beta didn't have an Apple menu. I just had a nifty Apple in the center that didn't do anything.

yea, that realllly had me kinda wondering what the hell was going on. at the time.
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Sep 25, 2005, 03:25 PM
 
The ornamental Apple menu icon was living, breating proof that Steve Jobs has his interface priorities all wrong.

The earliest reference to Aqua that I can find on Apple's website is in early 2000 (thanks to the wayback machine).

http://web.archive.org/web/200011090...le.com/macosx/

However I recall that a very ugly version of Aqua was shown off on the Apple website several months before this, probably in 1999 but I can't remember for sure. It showed the dock as having giant tiles rather than icons.
     
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Sep 25, 2005, 03:55 PM
 
Aqua first showed up in OSX DP4.
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Sep 25, 2005, 03:57 PM
 
I love the look of aqua. My favorite is blue.

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Sep 25, 2005, 04:06 PM
 
Sorry, not OS X at all:



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Sep 26, 2005, 08:11 AM
 
Well, another mystery solved thanks to the detective skills of... someone... whatever.
     
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Sep 26, 2005, 08:12 AM
 
Originally Posted by The Godfather
The only Aqua I remember from 1998 is "I am a Barbie girl, in a Barbie world".
That's what I thought this was about, too.
     
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Sep 26, 2005, 08:56 AM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
Sorry, not OS X at all:



Yup, that's good old System 7, 1990–1997.

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Sep 26, 2005, 09:15 AM
 
Originally Posted by tooki
Yup, that's good old System 7, 1990–1997.
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Loking at that Trash can and the scroll bar, it kinda looks like 7.6.1 or even 8, where they made it more 3Desque.


Originally Posted by Kerrigan
The earliest reference to Aqua that I can find on Apple's website is in early 2000 (thanks to the wayback machine).

http://web.archive.org/web/200011090...le.com/macosx/

From that site:

Originally Posted by Charles Haddad, BusinessWeek online

Refering to the Mac OS X Public Beta

Apple’s OS X Looks Like a 10
“I think every Mac user should give OS X (pronounced OS Ten) a serious look. It incorporates several new technologies that will not only make your Mac run faster and more reliably but will simplify computing. Besides, it’s really cool — just what you’d expect from Apple … With OS X, Apple is actually leaping ahead of Linux and Windows…”
damn liar !
The Public Beta was the slowest public build of OS X ever released.
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Sep 26, 2005, 09:42 AM
 
Originally Posted by Sarc
Loking at that Trash can and the scroll bar, it kinda looks like 7.6.1 or even 8, where they made it more 3Desque.
Definitely not 8. OS8 had Platinum.

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Sep 26, 2005, 11:33 AM
 
Originally Posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO
Aqua first showed up in OSX DP4.
It was DP3


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Sep 26, 2005, 11:47 AM
 
Originally Posted by angelmb
It was DP3
You're right, but it was major ruff back then.
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Sep 26, 2005, 11:53 AM
 
Originally Posted by angelmb
It was DP3
Those were the days!
     
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Sep 26, 2005, 12:15 PM
 
This was Aqua in 98



And this was Brushed metal





The latter I have always thought was cool.
     
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Sep 26, 2005, 12:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kevin
This was Aqua in 98


holy new goddamn hotness
     
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Sep 26, 2005, 01:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by Sarc
Loking at that Trash can and the scroll bar, it kinda looks like 7.6.1 or even 8, where they made it more 3Desque.
I think it's System 7. Platinum had different hard drive icons, so those screens must have been before OS 8.
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Sep 26, 2005, 03:14 PM
 
Originally Posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO
it was major ruff back then.
Rough is an understatement

Screenshot to jog everyones' memories:
http://www.macintosh.ru/articles/osx.../badinfder.JPG
     
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Sep 26, 2005, 03:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kerrigan
Rough is an understatement

Screenshot to jog everyones' memories:
http://www.macintosh.ru/articles/osx.../badinfder.JPG
I still have DP3, it was cool just for what it was at the time, sheets blew me away. The dock was major ass though. Glad they cleaned the hell out of it.
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Sep 26, 2005, 03:31 PM
 
Mac OS X DP1 screenshots

Mac OS X DP2 screenshots

and then… WHOA!

Mac OS X DP3 screenshots

Mac OSX DP4 screenshots


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Sep 26, 2005, 03:42 PM
 
Originally Posted by angelmb
Mac OS X DP1 screenshots

Mac OS X DP2 screenshots
They should have kept going in that direction.
     
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Sep 26, 2005, 03:45 PM
 
Originally Posted by angelmb
Mac OS X DP1 screenshots

Mac OS X DP2 screenshots

and then… WHOA!

Mac OS X DP3 screenshots

Mac OSX DP4 screenshots
Wow. OS X sure has changed over the years - for the better.
     
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Sep 26, 2005, 05:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kevin
They should have kept going in that direction.
     
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Sep 26, 2005, 06:14 PM
 
Originally Posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO
Aqua first showed up in OSX DP4.
DP3.

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Sep 26, 2005, 06:32 PM
 
The classic look and feel were ok, but Aqua was improtant in the overall change and style change of Apple at the start of the 21st century. Cool looking OS and cool looking computers, that worked.

Classic reminded people of the 80s like their old logo. PLus Aqua let them do and try things that they couldn`t have before. Like the dock. Go dock go.
     
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Sep 26, 2005, 06:54 PM
 
Originally Posted by JoshuaZ
The classic look and feel were ok, but Aqua was improtant in the overall change and style change of Apple at the start of the 21st century. Cool looking OS and cool looking computers, that worked.

Classic reminded people of the 80s like their old logo. PLus Aqua let them do and try things that they couldn`t have before. Like the dock. Go dock go.

Actually, their old logo reminds me of the 70s.
     
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Sep 26, 2005, 06:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
I think it's System 7. Platinum had different hard drive icons, so those screens must have been before OS 8.
Yeah, it's System 7.x, not OS 8 - there's no Platinum there.

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Sep 26, 2005, 07:20 PM
 
Originally Posted by Brass
Actually, their old logo reminds me of the 70s.
Makes sense as that is when it came out.
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Sep 27, 2005, 10:51 AM
 
Originally Posted by Sarc
Loking at that Trash can and the scroll bar, it kinda looks like 7.6.1 or even 8, where they made it more 3Desque.
The trash cans, icons and widgets were unchanged in all versions of System 7, from System 7.0 through Mac OS 7.6.1. Since the right-hand side of the menu bar isn't visible in those shots, it's impossible to tell whether it's 7.0-7.1.x or 7.5-7.6.1.

Only in Mac OS 8 did we get the Platinum theme and icons that we kept through Mac OS 9.2.2.

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Sep 27, 2005, 10:57 AM
 
Well if you had Aaron you could use platinum in OS 7.
     
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Sep 27, 2005, 11:20 AM
 
Executive summary:

Ok, case solved. It's Mac OS 7.
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Sep 27, 2005, 11:29 AM
 
Yeah it looks like 7 to me as well. I guess if one wasn't used to 7....
     
   
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