[PacHead]

If anybody doesn't like to read rants then skip over this thread.

I had the most ridiculous incident happen to me the other day. I was visiting a friend of mine and I stopped in a Duane Reade drugstore with a few friends inorder to buy a pack of cigarettes along with a few other items. When I got to the counter this dumb looking broad asked me for ID. I'm in my thirties and I don't look older than my age and I don't look younger, I look just like a guy in his thirties. There is no way that anybody who is not retarded would ever think that I am under 18. I am aware of the cigarette laws in New York and it is not neccesary to card people over 25. I didn't have my ID with me and after asking her if she thought I looked like a minor I just told one of my girlfriends who was with me to show their ID and just purchase the cigarettes. The dumb bitch of a cashier refused to sell it to her also, even though she had ID, because it was intended for me. Anyhow, this mental midget (minimum wage security guard loser) comes over and states "it doesn't matter how ****ing old you are !". I didn't want to argue anymore with that mental midgets in that store which was populated by mininum wage degenerates so I just left the other items I was going to purchase on the counter and I just walked out and bought my cigarettes in another store which was right next door. It's as if they didn't want my business or my money.

Anybody think I would have a case ? I am the kind of person that would not mind taking action against a store like that. I would like to see that cashier girl fired, she was clearly just being a bitch. For some reason she just didn't like me, I think it was racism (black neighborhood). I haven't gotten carded in the past 20 years. I will at least write a letter to Duane Reade headquarters and let them know what kind of lowlifes work in their stores.

[Randman]

You would be laughed at.

Many states now require workers to card all people buying liquor, regardless of age. When I was back home in April, my Dad was (who's well past retirement age) was carded as was my then-fiancee and I (I ordered a drink during dinner).

[RAzaRazor]

Originally Posted by PacHead

Anybody think I would have a case ?

No, Don't be stupid. She was rude - write a letter to management.

[von Wrangell]

I think she did the right thing up until she said she wouldn't sell to your friend. That's just dumb.

But why sue them? Why not just never do business with them again and tell your friends to do the same?

[Dork.]

The "Mental Midget" is correct, sort of. They have every right in NY to proof everyone in your party, and not sell alcohol and cigs to anyone in your party if anyone in your party is below the legal age. (edit: not just that, everyone in your party needs to show positive proof!) It doesn't matter how old you are. Some stores set practical limits like "we proof if you look like you're under 35" because 9 times out of 10, that's sufficient, and lines move faster if you're not proofing the 60-year-olds.

Up here in Rochester, Wegmans got busted in a few stings where some clerks in a few stores sold stuff to underage people. So now, Wegmans stated policy is to proof everyone, all the time. (although sometimes the clerks forget...) It irritates my wife when I buy beer and the ask to see her ID, too, because she has to dig it out of the bottom of her purse....

Just let it drop. You got your ciggys, right? so why bother pushing it any more?

[Randman]

Originally Posted by PacHead

If anybody doesn't like to read rants then skip over this thread.

I had the most ridiculous incident happen to me the other day. I was visiting a friend of mine and I stopped in a Duane Reade drugstore with a few friends inorder to buy a pack of cigarettes along with a few other items. When I got to the counter this dumb looking broad asked me for ID. I'm in my thirties and I don't look older than my age and I don't look younger, I look just like a guy in his thirties. There is no way that anybody who is not retarded would ever think that I am under 18. I am aware of the cigarette laws in New York and it is not neccesary to card people over 25. I didn't have my ID with me and after asking her if she thought I looked like a minor I just told one of my girlfriends who was with me to show their ID and just purchase the cigarettes. The dumb bitch of a cashier refused to sell it to her also, even though she had ID, because it was intended for me. Anyhow, this mental midget (minimum wage security guard loser) comes over and states "it doesn't matter how ****ing old you are !". I didn't want to argue anymore with that mental midgets in that store which was populated by mininum wage degenerates so I just left the other items I was going to purchase on the counter and I just walked out and bought my cigarettes in another store which was right next door. It's as if they didn't want my business or my money.

Anybody think I would have a case ? I am the kind of person that would not mind taking action against a store like that. I would like to see that cashier girl fired, she was clearly just being a bitch. For some reason she just didn't like me, I think it was racism (black neighborhood). I haven't gotten carded in the past 20 years. I will at least write a letter to Duane Reade headquarters and let them know what kind of lowlifes work in their stores.

You sound like Ca$h.

[screamingFit]

Since when were minimum wage earners "low-lifes", "mental midgets", "degenerates" and "losers"?

I would of carded you, too. You may look like an adult but you act like an underaged, selfish, spoiled child.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by Randman

You sound like Ca$h.

I don't think he's too fond of cigarettes.


As for suing anybody, I will most likely not be doing that, but I do think that I will write a letter to their management at least. Nobody treats me like that and gets away with it. I will at least make an effort to get that girl fired. It won't be the first person I have successfully gotten fired.

[Randman]

Originally Posted by PacHead

Nobody treats me like that and gets away with it.

Except for that clerk, that is.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by Randman

Except for that clerk, that is.

Not really, she'll get hers in due time. She was so stupid that there is no way that she will be able to live a happy life. She will most likely end up with an abusive husband and 5 kids on welfare. I wish her the best of luck.

[von Wrangell]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I will at least make an effort to get that girl fired. It won't be the first person I have successfully gotten fired.

[wallinbl]

She did the right thing. It's probably company policy to do what she did. Stores like this get picked on by the authorities who will send all manner of people in to try to buy underage. In some areas, they will even go find teens that look old or will even give them wigs. The penalties for violating the law are huge, and are not worth any risk. Sure, you're pissed that you had some hassle because you didn't have your wallet, but it's really not a big deal.

Spend a week or two working in a convenience store, and you'll change your perspective (I worked the night shift in one in college). People try all sorts of crazy crap in order to get beer/cigs to minors, and the clerk is legally obligated to try to prevent it. In Florida, the clerk can actually be fined or go to jail (aside from the business paying fines). The law was set that way to make the clerks care.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

You must be the angriest, idiotic, petty person on these boards.

You manage to insult everyone by their looks and the amount they get paid just for doing their job.

Once again, you are the American Stereotype.

[Scientist]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I had the most ridiculous incident happen to me the other day.

I thought conservatives were supposed to be above frivolous lawsuits. And perhaps I'm mistaken but aren't you Libertarian? If so you should be kicked out of the party.

[Randman]

Originally Posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO

Once again, you are the American Stereotype.

You needn't label him as an American stereotype.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by wallinbl

She did the right thing. It's probably company policy to do what she did.

That's not true because I have been in scores of Duane Reade stores over the past decades and not once have they carded me, so it is clearly not company policy. On the contrary, it would be that particular store which is following a different policy than all of the other stores.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by Scientist

I thought conservatives were supposed to be above frivolous lawsuits. And perhaps I'm mistaken but aren't you Libertarian? If so you should be kicked out of the party.

No, I am not really a conservative or a libertarian. I am merely extremely pro-war, and people sometimes confuse this with something else.

[Dork.]

I think he's more upset that this "mental midget" copped an attitude with him. The nerve of her to not treat him with the respect that is his birthright!

I think he should send Duane Reade a letter demanding that all their employees must refer to him as "Sir Pachead", or he will challenge them to a duel!

[Mastrap]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I will at least make an effort to get that girl fired. It won't be the first person I have successfully gotten fired.

Something to be proud of.

[Artful Dodger]

Maybe Duane can't reade too well. Start smoking marijuana....dealers don't card anyone for that. Btw, i get carded for buying lighters.

[KeriVit]

It's common practice to card under the age of 35 and everyone in the party. All she did wrong was that she was rude to you. However, her rudeness was a reaction to your rudeness.

Stop chastising people for doing their jobs, then maybe they won't treat you like crap.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by Disgruntled Head of C-3PO

You must be the angriest, idiotic, petty person on these boards.

You manage to insult everyone by their looks and the amount they get paid just for doing their job.

I don't often get angry, but when I do, then the other party better watch out. I was about to blow my top and it is good that I left the store when I did. I'll just leave it at that. And yes, I do insult stupid, rude people with ridiculous jobs, especially when they are rude to me first. I am worth 10 of those kind of people.

[Mastrap]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I am worth 10 of those kind of people.

Quoted just for the fun of it.

[mitchell_pgh]

Can you sue... yes... will you win... NO.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by KeriVit

It's common practice to card under the age of 35 and everyone in the party.

I'm 36 (which would be twice the legal age). The cashier girl just had a stick up her anus or something.

[Randman]

Insulting others makes you feel good?


Just accept that she made you her bitch and there's nothing you can do about it but blog to others about your mojo being so mighty.

[Randman]

Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh

Can you sue... yes... will you win... NO.

Sue? Under what grounds?

[Dork.]

Originally Posted by PacHead

watch out. I was about to blow my top and it is good that I left the store when I did. I'll just leave it at that. And yes, I do insult stupid, rude people with ridiculous jobs, especially when they are rude to me first. I am worth 10 of those kind of people.

It's good that you left the store, for your own sake. You were 100% in the wrong, and if you made enough of a scene for them to call the cops, they'll be pissed that they had to come out and respond to your sorry whining. You don't want the NYPD (I assume you were in NYC) pissed at you....

[IceEnclosure]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I don't often get angry, but when I do, then the other party better watch out. I was about to blow my top and it is good that I left the store when I did. I'll just leave it at that. And yes, I do insult stupid, rude people with ridiculous jobs, especially when they are rude to me first. I am worth 10 of those kind of people.

you're a pussy... a p u s s y b o y. that's what you are.

[KeriVit]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I'm 36 (which would be twice the legal age). The cashier girl just had a stick up her anus or something.

OK- and she is supposed to tell by looking at you that you are 36 and not 35?

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally Posted by Randman

You needn't label him as an American stereotype.

He is the type of American that makes the others look bad. He is an asshole, loves the idea of racial profiling and is totally demeaning to any minority group or anyone who makes less money than he does.

What the hell would he sue them for? They ruined his character? He is already a well known jerk.

[starman]

It's a state law and she didn't want to get fired. Hell, I still get carded when I go out, but I don't make a stink about it. Consider yourself flattered and have a cancer stick.

Mike

[Randman]

Being an ass has nothing to do with nationality. That's your projecting some kind of hostility in a closed-minded way, much as Pached projected some kind of hostility in a closed-minded way.

[ReggieX]

Grow up.

[brapper]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I didn't want to argue anymore with that mental midgets in that store which was populated by mininum wage degenerates so I just left the other items I was going to purchase on the counter and I just walked out and bought my cigarettes in another store which was right next door.

hahaha you got owned by "minimum wage degenerates"

[olePigeon]

And the moral of the story:


Don't smoke. Save a lung, save a headache. (hey, that's catchy. )

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally Posted by Randman

Being an ass has nothing to do with nationality. That's your projecting some kind of hostility in a closed-minded way, much as Pached projected some kind of hostility in a closed-minded way.

What I am saying is there is a stereotype of Americans, and he fits it perfectly.

[Randman]

So do you.

[Cody Dawg]

I think you should call corporate and find out who the president of the company is and call him.

Suing the store would be ineffective because I'm sure that they have good attorneys. Unless you are an ethnic minority and can use that trump card, you'd lose, especially since it seems that the cashier was an ethnic minority.

Sorry.

[PacHead]

I know most of you think I'm in the wrong, though I wish I had an Ipod recorder and I would have recorded the audio of the incident.

The minimum wage security guard lied when trying to "edumacate" me on the laws in New York State. He also cursed, what kind of neanderthal security guards does Duane Reade employ ?

The Tobacco Product Regulation Act (Local Law 83 of 1992) prohibits the sale of tobacco products to those under 18 years old. The law requires that tobacco sellers request a photo identification of customers who appear younger than 25 years of age. Merchants must also conspicuously post a sign stating that it is illegal to sell tobacco products to minors.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/pre...pr16-403.shtml

I do not appear younger than 25 years of age and the store was clearly in the wrong.

[Disgruntled Head of C-3PO]

Originally Posted by Randman

So do you.

Neat, quite the feat for a non-american.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

I think you should call corporate and find out who the president of the company is and call him.

Suing the store would be ineffective because I'm sure that they have good attorneys. Unless you are an ethnic minority and can use that trump card, you'd lose, especially since it seems that the cashier was an ethnic minority.

Sorry.

Thanks Cody.

[Randman]

Maybe the employees read the rules wrong and thought they needed to card everyone who acts as if they're under 25. In that case, they did the right thing.

[xi_hyperon]

I have to say if I had been behind you in line, I would have laughed heartily at you. You sound more like a teen who got busted at the register than a 36 year old.

[Mastrap]

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

I think you should call corporate and find out who the president of the company is and call him.

And that would achieve what? Assuming you'd get through to him/her in the first place. You really think they have the time to listen to somebody complaining about getting carded and how he doesn't look a day, a day I am telling you, under 34?

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by Mastrap

And that would achieve what? Assuming you'd get through to him/her in the first place. You really think they have the time to listen to somebody complaining about getting carded and how he doesn't look a day, a day I am telling you, under 34?

Like I said previously, intelligent, resourceful people such as myself have indeed gotten people fired before and incidents resolved. Sometimes a well written letter can work wonders. I got a first class ticket before when I complained about the service I have gotten on a rude airline that wasn't up to normal standards and somebody else who mouthed off to me once lost their job.

[Randman]

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[Dork.]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I know most of you think I'm in the wrong, though I wish I had an Ipod recorder and I would have recorded the audio of the incident.

The minimum wage security guard lied when trying to "edumacate" me on the laws in New York State. He also cursed, what kind of neanderthal security guards does Duane Reade employ ?

The Tobacco Product Regulation Act (Local Law 83 of 1992) prohibits the sale of tobacco products to those under 18 years old. The law requires that tobacco sellers request a photo identification of customers who appear younger than 25 years of age. Merchants must also conspicuously post a sign stating that it is illegal to sell tobacco products to minors.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/html/pre...pr16-403.shtml

I do not appear younger than 25 years of age and the store was clearly in the wrong.

Now that's interesting. There are all sorts of stores up here that card for anyone looking like they're under 35, and like I said earlier, Wegmans' new policy is to card everyone. Although now that I think about it, 35 may just be for alcohol....

All the links I found were to guidelines for merchants (like http://www.health.state.ny.us/nysdoh...g/tobguide.htm) , or press releases like yours, though. I'm willing to bet that the actual text of the law leaves whether or not to check ID for those over 25 to the store's discretion, and gives any store the right to refuse a sale to someone who can't produce an ID, no matter what their age.

[BlueSky]

Pac, this thread is about to go to page 2, could I see some ID before I let you pass...

[OldManMac]

You're 36, and you act like that?