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How is this done? IKEA 3D-Flash.
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Sep 27, 2005, 11:22 AM
 
http://www.ikea.com/ms/sv_SE/kampanj...k/dromkok.html

3 dimensional, time frozen, rotatable flash (use the arrows to rotate left and right). How is this done? It doesn't look like it's rendered with 3D software.
     
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Sep 27, 2005, 11:25 AM
 
I'm not an expert on it but I was at the Macromedia launch of Studio 8 and this type of stuff was demonstrated. A good number of major companies got early copies to produce websites on.

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Sep 27, 2005, 11:28 AM
 
Originally Posted by Randman
I'm not an expert on it but I was at the Macromedia launch of Studio 8 and this type of stuff was demonstrated. A good number of major companies got early copies to produce websites on.
Looks like the pictures were taken using a method similar to what they used for "Bullet Time" in The Matrix and its sequels.
     
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Sep 27, 2005, 11:29 AM
 
thats pretty cool.
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Sep 27, 2005, 11:39 AM
 
They probably used computers.

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Sep 27, 2005, 11:43 AM
 
Looks like that ring of still photos thing the Matrix made famous, but applied to Flash.

Very cool though.
     
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Sep 27, 2005, 11:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by Person Man
Looks like the pictures were taken using a method similar to what they used for "Bullet Time" in The Matrix and its sequels.
I agree. You just put a bunch of cameras in an arc around the scene and they all shoot at the same time, capturing the action as if it were frozen.
     
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Sep 27, 2005, 11:46 AM
 
Originally Posted by chabig
I agree. You just put a bunch of cameras in an arc around the scene and they all shoot at the same time, capturing the action as if it were frozen.
Correct. Or, if there's no motion in the scene, the camera can swing on a moving arm or a turntable. It's the same technique that's been used to create QuickTime VR movies since the mid-'90s. (And probably for non-interactive special effects before that.) No 3D rendering involved.

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Sep 27, 2005, 11:47 AM
 
Originally Posted by ort888
They probably used computers.
Seconded.

Pretty cool !

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Sep 27, 2005, 11:47 AM
 
Originally Posted by chabig
You just put a bunch of cameras in an arc around the scene and they all shoot at the same time, capturing the action as if it were frozen.
That's not how it could have been done. You would see the other cameras.
     
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Sep 27, 2005, 11:51 AM
 
I don't remember the specific details but they basically take one element and superimpose into another scene. The software handles the 3D "bullet time" stuff.

Some of the stuff Macromedia displayed was truly awesome!

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Sep 27, 2005, 12:02 PM
 
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Sep 27, 2005, 12:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by TETENAL
That's not how it could have been done. You would see the other cameras.
Not if the cameras are placed/angled properly.
     
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Sep 27, 2005, 12:27 PM
 
I am not seeing anything in 3-D? Safari 2.0.1 OS X 10.4 and Flash plugin 8
     
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Sep 27, 2005, 12:45 PM
 
Originally Posted by zerostar
I am not seeing anything in 3-D? Safari 2.0.1 OS X 10.4 and Flash plugin 8
Are you seeing *nothing* or are you trying to be smart ?
The term 3D in this case is technically wrong. Thanksz.

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Sep 27, 2005, 12:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777
Are you seeing *nothing* or are you trying to be smart ?

I see the opening sequence then it comes to a menu and looks like there should be something in the middle but I /got nothing
     
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Sep 27, 2005, 12:49 PM
 
Good old Time Slicing, like Tim McMillan has been doing for years. Just a bunch of simultaneous shots.

See movies and cameras at:

http://www.timeslicefilms.com/

http://www.timeslicefilms.com/cameras.shtml



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Sep 27, 2005, 01:00 PM
 
Originally Posted by Judge_Fire
Good old Time Slicing, like Tim McMillan has been doing for years. Just a bunch of simultaneous shots.

The 90 degree explains why you can't see the other cameras.
A true 360 degree shot would be much harder...

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Sep 27, 2005, 01:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777
The 90 degree explains why you can't see the other cameras.
A true 360 degree shot would be much harder...

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The ones in that ikea thing are nearly 180 degrees. They definitely had some photoshopping to do to get rid of the cameras in the background once it got towards the edges.

But, really, photoshopping out a camera from a picture takes all of, what, 5 minutes? I'm sure it wasn't a grueling task.

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Sep 27, 2005, 01:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777
The 90 degree explains why you can't see the other cameras.
A true 360 degree shot would be much harder...
If you look at the Beckham sample they have there, you can see the other cameras. So they would have had to photoshop them away (as well as the mattress I guess).

Here's another cool one where you ask yourself how they did it. This time it's not Flash but a QuickTime VR in a Volvic bottle:

http://www.panodrom.de/Extrem/bottle.html
     
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Sep 27, 2005, 03:05 PM
 
Originally Posted by zerostar
I see the opening sequence then it comes to a menu and looks like there should be something in the middle but I /got nothing
me too!

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Sep 27, 2005, 03:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by m a d r a
me too!

[guess the rest of you aren't using safari?]
i switched to Firefox six months ago. got T1 at work and safari just can't keep up, also gave similar 'errors'.

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Sep 27, 2005, 03:21 PM
 
Most of those pictures are around 150º across, which makes it easier to hide the cameras, but hiding the cameras isn't really that hard if you stage the thing right. The transistions from one scene to another are nicely done, but that's just a detail. Basically it all looks like nicely stitched panoramas.
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Sep 27, 2005, 03:44 PM
 
this is a cool bit of 3d image software - eRaz by Yawah, check out the 3d demo here
http://www.yawah.com/demo/fsi-3d.html

it's a tasty product!!

the pages demo is sweeet as well
http://www.yawah.com/demo/fsi-pages-...pages-001.html
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Sep 28, 2005, 09:24 AM
 
Originally Posted by m a d r a
me too!

[guess the rest of you aren't using safari?]
It works fine in Safari.
     
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Sep 28, 2005, 09:52 AM
 
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Sep 28, 2005, 10:35 AM
 
Originally Posted by TETENAL
It works fine in Safari.
not for me!
     
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Sep 28, 2005, 09:13 PM
 
Works fine here on Safari with Flash 8, although I don't see why on earth they require it, you could do that in QuickTime if you wanted.
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Sep 29, 2005, 12:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by TETENAL
If you look at the Beckham sample they have there, you can see the other cameras. So they would have had to photoshop them away (as well as the mattress I guess).

Here's another cool one where you ask yourself how they did it. This time it's not Flash but a QuickTime VR in a Volvic bottle:

http://www.panodrom.de/Extrem/bottle.html
That is pretty cool. But you can see part of where they cut the bottle to fit the camera in. Look for the date stamp near the top of the bottle, and follow that straight down to the bottom. They managed to photoshop the middle portion of the bottle to hide it, but I figure they would have tried a little harder to edit out the rest...?
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