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wallinbl · Sep 29, 2005, 11:18 AM

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2174828

So, a college football team painted the visitor's locker room pink. A bunch of people are now offended by this saying that it is demeaning to women and perpetuates offensive stereotypes about women and gays.

Can someone explain their reasoning to me? I can't see it as anything but funny and harmless, and I think the people complaining need to lighten up a bit. If this offends you, please try to explain why because I don't get it.

turtle777 · Sep 29, 2005, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by wallinbl

the visitor's locker room pink. A bunch of people are now offended by this saying that it is demeaning to women and perpetuates offensive stereotypes about women and gays.

Yep. That's the same reason why I wear pink. I want to be demeaning to women and perpetuate offensive stereotypes about women and gays.

-t

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AaHAHhahHAaHAhahAHahA.

That is pretty funny.

Oisín · Sep 29, 2005, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Yep. That's the same reason why I wear pink. I want to be demeaning to women and perpetuate offensive stereotypes about women and gays.

I knew it!

RACIST!!!

Goldfinger · Sep 29, 2005, 11:32 AM

American REALLY need to stop being offended by the stupidest of things.
Flame away.

RAILhead · Sep 29, 2005, 01:35 PM

It's offensive for the same reason red ink is offensive in our public schools: people are farking idiots.

That is all.

pathogen · Sep 29, 2005, 01:40 PM

This is just like the confederate flag problem: either you see it as offensive or you don't.

It has nothing to do with being an idiot, as a case can be made for either side.

PS. Seems more people are intolerant of flag burning than homophobia.

turtle777 · Sep 29, 2005, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by pathogen

It has nothing to do with being an idiot, as a case can be made for either side.

Fair enough: most people are idiots, no matter what!

-t

Randman · Sep 29, 2005, 01:43 PM

The idea is that pink is considered a soft image and "girlie", thereby muting a team's aggressive mindset. One of the reasons why so many sports teams use black and red as the primary colors.

Someone, with too much time of their hands, decided that this perpetuated a negative stereotype and whined about it.

Also, it's been done before by others schools.

Randman · Sep 29, 2005, 01:45 PM

Originally Posted by pathogen

This is just like the confederate flag problem: either you see it as offensive or you don't.

Off-topic. The battle over the Confederate battle flag is silly. The battle flag was the flag for the Army of Northern Virginia, Lee's army. It never flew in Georgia or any Confederate capital or Confederate grouping except Lee's army.

Originally Posted by turtle777

Fair enough: most people are idiots, no matter what!

Truer words have never been said.

andreas_g4 · Sep 29, 2005, 01:56 PM

TWG: The Whiners Guild™

How stupid (at least it's funny).

Paco500 · Sep 29, 2005, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Randman

Off-topic. The battle over the Confederate battle flag is silly. The battle flag was the flag for the Army of Northern Virginia, Lee's army. It never flew in Georgia or any Confederate capital or Confederate grouping except Lee's army.

Jut out of curiosity I did some research. It all points to you being wrong on this one. The "rebel" flag you see on dipsh1t's pickup trucks, is not the official flag of the C.S.A.- you seem to be right there. But the flag as we see it now seems to have been the Confederate Naval Jack.

Google it. Maybe I got bad info.

wallinbl · Sep 29, 2005, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by pathogen

It has nothing to do with being an idiot, as a case can be made for either side..

Make the case, please. I really don't get it.

andi*pandi · Sep 29, 2005, 03:05 PM

quite silly. If the visiting teams had been offended, then maybe there's a point. But really, it's just paint.

nredman · Sep 29, 2005, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by Goldfinger

People REALLY need to stop being offended by the stupidest of things.
Flame away.

fixed

Kevin · Sep 29, 2005, 04:36 PM

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What he said above.

OwlBoy · Sep 29, 2005, 05:11 PM

Originally Posted by Goldfinger

American REALLY need to stop being offended by the stupidest of things.
Flame away.

They also need to stop intending to offend people with the stupidest things.

-Owl

Kevin · Sep 29, 2005, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by OwlBoy

They also need to stop intending to offend people with the stupidest things.

-Owl

Sometimes people are offended at stuff that is non-offensive.

isao bered · Sep 29, 2005, 05:19 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Sometimes people are offended at stuff that is non-offensive.

and the corollary:

sometimes people aren't offended at stuff that is offensive.

??

my brain hurts. ;-)

be well.

laeth

olePigeon · Sep 29, 2005, 05:21 PM

So are pink iPods offensive?

paul w · Sep 29, 2005, 05:24 PM

It's offensive as it clashes with Iowa's color scheme. I mean seriously girls.

Salty · Sep 29, 2005, 06:39 PM

Wait... when did gays start wearing pink? Well now I don't have to wonder if someone's gay when I see two guys kissing, if they're wearing pink I'll know they're gay, and if they're not, well I know that one just has something in their teeth and the other one hurt his fingers and is trying to help!

Randman · Sep 29, 2005, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by Paco500

Jut out of curiosity I did some research. It all points to you being wrong on this one. The "rebel" flag you see on dipsh1t's pickup trucks, is not the official flag of the C.S.A.- you seem to be right there. But the flag as we see it now seems to have been the Confederate Naval Jack.

Google it. Maybe I got bad info.

The battle flag was adopted by the Confederate navy in the latter parts of the war. The Georgia battle flag was close but different. The Confederate flag was called the Stars & Bars and resembles the US flag.

Flags of the Confederacy

Another link.

The Wiki entry.

Eriamjh · Sep 30, 2005, 06:07 AM

Painting it pink isn't offensive to women or gays. It's offensive to the visiting team as they are being told they are pansies (like women or gays).

If pink wasn't associated with women or gays, then why the hell is pink liked and used by so many women and gays? Sometimes stereotypes are true part of the time, you know.

Kevin · Sep 30, 2005, 06:20 AM

Pink = Relaxing and not aggressive. It isn't calling them girls. It's an attempt to soften them up before the game.

If it wasn't a long running thing I could understand...

A good sign showing someone is a bit too over-sensitive or someone just LOOKING to be offended is when they get upset over something like this.

What is next? Red? You know the nazis used red!!111

Pretty soon we will only be able to used shades of grey as to not offend.

Another form of conservatism altogether. One not practiced by the right usually.

pathogen · Sep 30, 2005, 06:37 AM

Originally Posted by Eriamjh

Painting it pink isn't offensive to women or gays. It's offensive to the visiting team as they are being told they are pansies (like women or gays).

If pink wasn't associated with women or gays, then why the hell is pink liked and used by so many women and gays? Sometimes stereotypes are true part of the time, you know.

It must be nice and sheltered under that rock.

wallinbl · Sep 30, 2005, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Eriamjh

Sometimes stereotypes are true part of the time, you know.

Of course they are! That's why they became stereotypes.

Originally Posted by Kevin

Pink = Relaxing and not aggressive. It isn't calling them girls. It's an attempt to soften them up before the game.

I think it is to call them girls, really. I still don't get what is offensive here. Is it the idea that women are the "weaker sex"? There is a ton of evidence that men are physically stronger and faster than women. That's pretty commonly accepted - they compete seperately in all athletic competitions because of this fact. Walk in to a women's clothing store and you will find a lot more pink than you will in a men's clothing store. So, pink is associated with women and women are less capable of performing at football. But, I think more than that, pink is the color associated with "girly" things - the side of women that is in contrast to men.

andi*pandi · Sep 30, 2005, 08:53 AM

so, again, if anyone should be offended it would be visiting teams. If they'd put doilys, barbies, and tampon machines in there they'd really have a case.

production_coordinator · Sep 30, 2005, 08:57 AM

People blowing a prank out of proportion...

They aren't going to get headlines if it's just a prank.

wallinbl · Sep 30, 2005, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by andi*pandi

so, again, if anyone should be offended it would be visiting teams. If they'd put doilys, barbies, and tampon machines in there they'd really have a case.

Tampon machines would be hilarious. It would be worth all of the people complaining.

turtle777 · Sep 30, 2005, 09:51 AM

Originally Posted by wallinbl

Tampon machines would be hilarious.

Haha. Seconded.

-t

wallinbl · Sep 30, 2005, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by production_coordinator

People blowing a prank out of proportion...

They aren't going to get headlines if it's just a prank.

It's been that way for 12 years. I don't think it was a prank.

teney7 · Sep 30, 2005, 10:04 AM

This is ridiculous... I am from IA, so I am a little biased, but this is still ridiculous. People cry about everything nowadays.

Eriamjh · Sep 30, 2005, 10:47 AM

Actually, there were some prisons that were painted pink inside back in the late eighties, early nineties. While it seemed to have a calming effect on the prisonersk, I think it was determined that once they were away from the pink areas, they were more agressive afterwards. I think that killed the program.