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Microsoft "invents" a ‘one-play only’ DVD
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Oct 3, 2005, 10:27 AM
 
Original title:
Microsoft invents a ‘one-play only’ DVD to combat Hollywood piracy

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Did I miss something, or didn't we already have something similar to this at the very begining of DVD movie distribution, that flopped very badly. It seems like the clown at The Business Online (Tony Glover) actually wrote an ad for this "revolutionary" technology, instead of a news article.
     
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Oct 3, 2005, 10:30 AM
 
I think there was a 'play for 10 days' DVD out that went down like a lead duck.

Disposable DVDs now? So now, in addition to f*cking the consumer, we're creating yet more landfill?
     
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Oct 3, 2005, 10:34 AM
 
The words 'Microsoft' and 'invent' are *never* correct if used in the same sentence.

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Oct 3, 2005, 10:35 AM
 
Disney's been messing with this idea for a while... DVDs that come hermetically sealed, and when you open them the oxygen in the air causes some reaction that turns the disk black and makes it unplayable in 48 hours. Seems like a shitty idea to me. (And how does that stop DVD pirating? so, you open up a fresh DVD, immediately rip it in your computer, and then you've got a copy even after the original deteriorates)

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Oct 3, 2005, 10:35 AM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777
The words 'Microsoft' and 'invent' are *never* correct if used in the same sentence.

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heh.

I'm suuure these are going to be the big hit at the store. Do they rewind if you miss a scene during a bathroom break?

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Oct 3, 2005, 10:37 AM
 
Originally Posted by MaxPower2k3
Disney's been messing with this idea for a while... DVDs that come hermetically sealed, and when you open them the oxygen in the air causes some reaction that turns the disk black and makes it unplayable in 48 hours. Seems like a shitty idea to me. (And how does that stop DVD pirating? so, you open up a fresh DVD, immediately rip it in your computer, and then you've got a copy even after the original deteriorates)
So a discreet shopper with a straight pin can do a million $ damage at wal-mart in 10 minutes. Sounds iron-clad!

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Oct 3, 2005, 10:38 AM
 
The revolutionary product could be on the market as early as next year, with the new DVD players needed to view them


New hardware. OMG, WTF ?

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Oct 3, 2005, 10:48 AM
 
That was the Circuit City/Divx crap that bombed.
     
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Oct 3, 2005, 10:48 AM
 
Originally Posted by chris v
So a discreet shopper with a straight pin can do a million $ damage at wal-mart in 10 minutes. Sounds iron-clad!
LOL. I thought the whole 48-hour DVD was a bad idea even before you said that. That would be the funniest lesson to our ****tard media giants, especially if it was planned out and happened across a large area to many different stores.
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Oct 3, 2005, 10:52 AM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777


New hardware. OMG, WTF ?

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No, I think it's great!

1. DVD-Player
2. M$-OnePlay™ DVD-Player
3. Blue-Ray Player
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Oct 3, 2005, 10:54 AM
 
Originally Posted by andreas_g4
No, I think it's great!

1. DVD-Player
2. M$-OnePlay™ DVD-Player
3. Blue-Ray Player
4. HD-DVD Player
5. HD-DVD-M$-OnePlay™ Player
You forgot the $79 Apex player that will do it all, region free, and be only available for 2 months before it gets shutdown by the Big 3 (Sony, Pioneer, Toshiba).
     
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Oct 3, 2005, 10:58 AM
 
It could be that the "OnePlay" DVDs are just standard DVDs with the new WMV format they're going to use with HD-DVDs. When you buy a HD-DVD player it'll work with the OnePlay crap.

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Oct 3, 2005, 11:09 AM
 
Like anyone will actually buy a "one-time play" DVD to watch the latest poopstain that hollywood farts out.
     
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Oct 3, 2005, 11:13 AM
 
So they want me to buy a DVD that only plays once? To make that fair DVD rentals shouldn't let you through the entire movie, or should force you to watch in french.
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Oct 3, 2005, 11:20 AM
 
Originally Posted by itistoday
Like anyone will actually buy a "one-time play" DVD to watch the latest poopstain that hollywood farts out.
... if it was cheaper than the cost of renting, i might do it.
     
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Oct 3, 2005, 11:22 AM
 
Originally Posted by d4nth3m4n
... if it was cheaper than the cost of renting.


As if this would ever happen...

One thing's for sure: everytime they try to push a new format, the rights of and usability for the end-user will be decreased. Since when did they REALLY care for giving you more bang for the buck ?

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Oct 3, 2005, 11:56 AM
 
Originally Posted by turtle777


New hardware. OMG, WTF ?

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sweet then my wife would have to let me get a new dvd player just kidding i love my sony dvd/surround sound system - got it in 2001

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Oct 3, 2005, 12:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by itistoday
Like anyone will actually buy a "one-time play" DVD to watch the latest poopstain that hollywood farts out.
Well, is most of it honestly worth watching more than once?

Seriously, they're doing this with our best interests at heart: they just want to protect us from repeated viewings of Hollywood drivel.
     
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Originally Posted by MaxPower2k3
Disney's been messing with this idea for a while... DVDs that come hermetically sealed, and when you open them the oxygen in the air causes some reaction that turns the disk black and makes it unplayable in 48 hours. Seems like a shitty idea to me. (And how does that stop DVD pirating? so, you open up a fresh DVD, immediately rip it in your computer, and then you've got a copy even after the original deteriorates)
It is a shitty idea. Now, if they made the DVD unplayable immediately, all piracy would be thwarted! It's foolproof!
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Oct 3, 2005, 12:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by d4nth3m4n
... if it was cheaper than the cost of renting, i might do it.
More than likely, they'll charge you more
     
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Oct 3, 2005, 12:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by itistoday
Like anyone will actually buy a "one-time play" DVD to watch the latest poopstain that hollywood farts out.
Now wait a minute here. Can you really fart out a poop stain? Wouldn't you fart, and if you made a cotton-toucher in the process, you'd THEN have a stain?

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Oct 3, 2005, 12:54 PM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak
More than likely, they'll charge you more
i don't see how they possibly could if they ever plan to sell these.
     
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Oct 3, 2005, 01:11 PM
 
Originally Posted by zwiebel_
Did I miss something, or didn't we already have something similar to this at the very begining of DVD movie distribution, that flopped very badly.
Yes, that was "DIVX" (not to be confused with the DivX codec, with which it has no relation). As usual, Wikipedia has a good write-up of this failed DVD rental format. Not sure why Microsoft thinks the time has come again for "self-destructing" media.
     
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Oct 3, 2005, 01:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by d4nth3m4n
i don't see how they possibly could if they ever plan to sell these.
Agreed, but I don't think they're thinking about that ... the only thought here is how to protect the 'rights' of the MPAA.

I can't see how a disposable product business model could possibly be cheaper than a reusable product one ... especially not when the 'disposabiliy' is hacked within a month of introduction
     
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Originally Posted by saddino
Yes, that was "DIVX" (not to be confused with the DivX codec, with which it has no relation). As usual, Wikipedia has a good write-up of this failed DVD rental format. Not sure why Microsoft thinks the time has come again for "self-destructing" media.

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That's what we all need. More garbage.
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Oct 3, 2005, 03:49 PM
 
Yes, this is already dead. Quite frankly I'm not worried about it.

I'm much more worried (annoyed) about the whole HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray fiasco.
     
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What's to be worried about, Eug? Most people don't want to abandon their practically newly purchased SD-DVDs and see little benefit in upgrading, so it's going to be the format that comes into homes gradually that wins.

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one play and then it crashes not to restart.

how...how novel.

I'd be pissed if i fell asleep half way thru.
     
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
What's to be worried about, Eug? Most people don't want to abandon their practically newly purchased SD-DVDs and see little benefit in upgrading, so it's going to be the format that comes into homes gradually that wins.
What I am afraid of is the transition taking forever...
     
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This will succeed only if the dvd is edible after viewing.
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Originally Posted by FulcrumPilot
This will succeed only if the dvd is edible after viewing.
And works like Viagra.
     
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Originally Posted by residentEvil
You forgot the $79 Apex player that will do it all, region free, and be only available for 2 months before it gets shutdown by the Big 3 (Sony, Pioneer, Toshiba).
I totally bought a $45 Apex player here in Japan, made it region free thanks to some help from google in like five minutes.

I would call them `one rip DVDs`. What if you have to pause or rewinde?
     
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I like how they say that Flexplay is still in use in Japan. You know, the country where you can rent CDs for under $1 US, and then buy MD Discs and blank CDs at the counter as well. Way to go!
     
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Stupid idea. I'll never buy one. So no sale is better?
     
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