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ambush · Oct 13, 2005, 06:26 PM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...mp;q=microsoft

schweetz0riz0r0r0r0r0fdskjhfkjsdh one one!! 1111!

nonhuman · Oct 13, 2005, 06:46 PM

Tesseract · Oct 13, 2005, 06:51 PM

Amazing. Me want.

TETENAL · Oct 13, 2005, 07:02 PM

Can you post a Mac-friendly link please?

nonhuman · Oct 13, 2005, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

Can you post a Mac-friendly link please?

The link posted worked just fine on my Mac... Haven't done anything special to it either.

tooki · Oct 13, 2005, 07:11 PM

The link works fine for me.

Believe it or not, this is old technology -- it's been done at places like MIT's Media Lab for some time. Experimentation with hands-on direct manipulation like this has been going on for years. Definitely cool stuff.

tooki

greenamp · Oct 13, 2005, 07:11 PM

Wow pretty impressive.

Meanwhile back at MS headquarters...

"Quick somebody fire those guys for being too innovative!"

TETENAL · Oct 13, 2005, 07:52 PM

Google Video only displays a blank page on every Mac browser I have tried. It's not Mac compatible. Since this is a Mac site please post Mac compatible links.

disgruntled goat · Oct 13, 2005, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

Google Video only displays a blank page on every Mac browser I have tried. It's not Mac compatible. Since this is a Mac site please post Mac compatible links.

plays fine on both my powerbook and iMac using safari, camino and firefox. the problem is on your end.

tooki · Oct 13, 2005, 08:07 PM

Agreed, it is Mac compatible: I watched it on my Mac.

It's a Flash video -- try downloading the latest Flash plugin from Macromedia.

tooki

awaspaas · Oct 13, 2005, 08:14 PM

TETENAL sucks at teh intarweb

TETENAL · Oct 13, 2005, 08:15 PM

I have the latest Flash installed (8.0 r22). The problem is not on my end. Heise.de reported that it is Windows only.

Stradlater · Oct 13, 2005, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

I have the latest Flash installed (8.0 r22). The problem is not on my end. Heise.de reported that it is Windows only.

Well Heise.de is the authority, after all. Google Videos work on all Macs I've tried, so I think that the problem probably is on your end.

MM-o4 · Oct 13, 2005, 08:22 PM

i saw it. it's you TETENAL. So suck it up

MM

ghporter · Oct 13, 2005, 08:26 PM

Works fine here.

And though, as tooki pointed out, there have been experiments with this sort of thing for a long time, this definitely looks like something beyond the "does this work" stage. Very, VERY cool!

bad_quote · Oct 13, 2005, 08:27 PM

Works fine here too.

TETENAL · Oct 13, 2005, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by MM-o4

i saw it. it's you TETENAL.

It's not me. No content is transmitted. You can clearly see it in the source code. There is nothing there after the "Video" headline div. That's on all browsers I tried and on two different Macs.

tooki · Oct 13, 2005, 08:49 PM

No, Glenn, I've seen demos just like this from a few years ago. This is not terribly innovative.

tooki

Rolling Bones · Oct 13, 2005, 08:49 PM

Worked fine here.

ghporter · Oct 13, 2005, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by tooki

No, Glenn, I've seen demos just like this from a few years ago. This is not terribly innovative.

tooki

The stuff I've seen has all been much clunkier and slower-maybe I've only seen MUCH older experiments.

tooki · Oct 13, 2005, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

It's not me. No content is transmitted. You can clearly see it in the source code. There is nothing there after the "Video" headline div. That's on all browsers I tried and on two different Macs.

Umm, others are having no trouble. It is you. How or why I don't know, but it is.

Google uses really funky HTML sometimes, so the code may not be transparent. On mine, the source is a tight jumble I can't really make out, since it's not separated onto indented lines or anything.

tooki

tooki · Oct 13, 2005, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

The stuff I've seen has all been much clunkier and slower-maybe I've only seen MUCH older experiments.

Well that's not "innovation" -- using faster hardware to make the system more responsive is pure evolution, not innovation.

Innovation was inventing this model of interaction, and MS didn't do that.

tooki

JoshuaZ · Oct 13, 2005, 09:07 PM

whatever. Worked fine for me.

jcadam · Oct 13, 2005, 11:01 PM

All of you are looking at a blank page. At least that is what I see.

paul w · Oct 13, 2005, 11:34 PM

Originally Posted by tooki

The link works fine for me.

Believe it or not, this is old technology -- it's been done at places like MIT's Media Lab for some time. Experimentation with hands-on direct manipulation like this has been going on for years. Definitely cool stuff.

tooki

Yeah I saw a an exhibition MIT put on in Tokyo in 2000 that included something like this. Funny that this should pop up now.

The applications were a bit more diverse than what what shown. For example there was an architectural planning demo. The famous video ping pong game was also present.

lngtones · Oct 14, 2005, 12:03 AM

works here, and I've seen many Google Videos through Safari. Maybe you suck?

moonmonkey · Oct 14, 2005, 01:24 AM

This damn thing is Mac only, I only get a blank page with XP.

Lateralus · Oct 14, 2005, 01:30 AM

Dammit, Google video obviously can't handle all this arguing. Hush up and it will work for everybody again.

brapper · Oct 14, 2005, 02:42 AM

worked for me....
I'd rock that game tho.

Cubeoid · Oct 14, 2005, 02:57 AM

Buffering...

Paulw.i like your signatue.

Cubeoid · Oct 14, 2005, 02:58 AM

Originally Posted by lngtones

works here, and I've seen many Google Videos through Safari. Maybe you suck?

AHHAhahahahhahahahahhHAHHAHAHHAHAHahahahhaHHAHAHAH AHHH!H!H!H!HHAHAHH!H!H!!H!HH!H!H!Hahhahahahah

Eriamjh · Oct 14, 2005, 06:14 AM

Wow. Pong!

christ · Oct 14, 2005, 06:54 AM

What is an "Inovation"?

analogika · Oct 14, 2005, 07:00 AM

No work in shanghai, no work in frankfurt, no work at armed forces housing in heidelberg, and no work here in hamburg.

i see a pattern emerging.

Ratm · Oct 14, 2005, 07:00 AM

Originally Posted by Cubeoid

Buffering...

Paulw.i like your signatue.

You would like that you crazy fook!

AHHAhahahahhahahahah

AHHAHAHahahahhaHHAHAHAH

HAHAHahahahhaHHAHAHA

HHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHA

HEHEHEHEEEEEEEEEEHEHHEHE

HHHHOOOOOHAHAHAHA

Cubeoid · Oct 14, 2005, 08:35 AM

Ratm..

stevesnj · Oct 14, 2005, 08:57 AM

Go to Macromedia.com and install flash 8 player...

TETENAL · Oct 14, 2005, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by tooki

Umm, others are having no trouble.

No, I'm not the only one who has trouble. See the others in this thread who can't view this.

Why don't you spare us the "you suck!" comments and just post the link to the flash directly, so that everybody on Mac can view the video?

paul w · Oct 14, 2005, 10:04 AM

try this

dunno if it'll work.

turtle777 · Oct 14, 2005, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

No, I'm not the only one who has trouble.

Yes, you are. Get a grip. No one else complained.

Your system is screwed or your computer teh suck.

-t

wdlove · Oct 14, 2005, 10:12 AM

It worked for me on my Mac, quality was poor though. An interesting concept.

TETENAL · Oct 14, 2005, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Yes, you are. Get a grip. No one else complained.

There were others for whom Google Video doesn't work. You need to improve your reading skills.

Originally Posted by paul w

try this

dunno if it'll work.

That works. Thanks a lot for being constructive!

tooki · Oct 14, 2005, 10:42 AM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

I have the latest Flash installed (8.0 r22). The problem is not on my end. Heise.de reported that it is Windows only.

That Heise article is old -- google video switched to a Flash-based player that is no longer Windows-only.

http://www.insanely-great.com/news.php?id=5327
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/28092005/10...c-support.html
http://www.tuaw.com/2005/09/27/googl...s-mac-support/

Also, did you try installing the Shockwave plugin as well? I don't think it needs it, but I do have it installed, so perhaps it's helping somehow.

But please calm down and stop being insulting and impatient to everyone. Clearly, everyone but you and one or two others had no trouble, indicating that it's far more likely that the problem is not with Google. When you make an incorrect statement (like that Google video is not Mac compatible) and others correctly tell you that you are wrong, you do not get the right to be nasty to them.

tooki

turtle777 · Oct 14, 2005, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

Thanks a lot for being constructive!

Me and others were still right, it was a problem with your setup

-t

TETENAL · Oct 14, 2005, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by tooki

Also, did you try installing the Shockwave plugin as well?

It's not even getting to the Flash (or possibly Shockwave) part. This is the complete source code of the web page:

Code:
                          <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"><html>    <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-type"> <title>Microsoft Gaming Inovation Video #1 - Google Video</title> <link href="common/google_style.css" rel="stylesheet"> <script src="jslib/misc.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="jslib/misc.vbs" type="text/vbscript"></script>  </head>            <body onload="" id="GooglePage" class="GooglePage"> <div class="gaiaheader">  </div> <div class="videopagehead"> <a href="/"> <img src="common/logo_video.jpg" alt="Go to Google Video Home" id="googlelogo"> </a> <div id="topformholder">  <form action="videosearch" method="GET"> <table> <tr> <td> <input maxlength="256" type="text" name="q" value="microsoft" size="30"> </td> <td> <input type="submit" value="Search">  </td> <td align="left"> <a href="/videolineup">Video Preferences</a> </td> </tr> </table> </form>  </div> </div> <div style="clear:both"></div>   <!--  --> <div class="headline"> <span class="statusname">Video</span> </div>

Clearly (even though the code is not structured you can see it) the page stops after the "Video" header. There is no content. There is not even a closing of the body and html tags. This is how it is served from Google. It's with all browsers and it's not only with me since others get this as well.

When you make an incorrect statement (like that Google video is not Mac compatible) and others correctly tell you that you are wrong, you do not get the right to be nasty to them.

I looked it up at heise.de (which is Europe's most respected publisher for computer literature) when I had problems and when they said it is not Mac compatible I assumed that is the reason. I didn't know they Google changed the service since then.
Whatever the reason is that it is not working for some, it is definitely a problem with Google though. I even downloaded the page with curl -O and it is served incomplete.

And, tooki, I have been said to "suck" just because I experience this problem. And you call me insulting?

disgruntled goat · Oct 14, 2005, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

And, tooki, I have been said to "suck" just because I experience this problem. And you call me insulting?

Google hates you.

Here is a link that I know will work, unless the facial tissue industry hates you also.

ambush · Oct 14, 2005, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

Google Video only displays a blank page on every Mac browser I have tried. It's not Mac compatible. Since this is a Mac site please post Mac compatible links.

How about this: "**** Off".

It works on my Mac just fine.

Since this is an english language site, translate your sig to english. <--- bad logic

tooki · Oct 14, 2005, 12:03 PM

Now now, don't be nasty, ambush.

tooki

tooki · Oct 14, 2005, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by TETENAL

1. It's not even getting to the Flash (or possibly Shockwave) part. This is the complete source code of the web page:

Code:
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd"><html>    <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" http-equiv="Content-type"> <title>Microsoft Gaming Inovation Video #1 - Google Video</title> <link href="common/google_style.css" rel="stylesheet"> <script src="jslib/misc.js" type="text/javascript"></script> <script src="jslib/misc.vbs" type="text/vbscript"></script>  </head>            <body onload="" id="GooglePage" class="GooglePage"> <div class="gaiaheader">  </div> <div class="videopagehead"> <a href="/"> <img src="common/logo_video.jpg" alt="Go to Google Video Home" id="googlelogo"> </a> <div id="topformholder">  <form action="videosearch" method="GET"> <table> <tr> <td> <input maxlength="256" type="text" name="q" value="microsoft" size="30"> </td> <td> <input type="submit" value="Search">  </td> <td align="left"> <a href="/videolineup">Video Preferences</a> </td> </tr> </table> </form>  </div> </div> <div style="clear:both"></div>   <!--  --> <div class="headline"> <span class="statusname">Video</span> </div>

Clearly (even though the code is not structured you can see it) the page stops after the "Video" header. There is no content. There is not even a closing of the body and html tags. This is how it is served from Google. It's with all browsers and it's not only with me since others get this as well.

2. I looked it up at heise.de (which is Europe's most respected publisher for computer literature) when I had problems and when they said it is not Mac compatible I assumed that is the reason. I didn't know they Google changed the service since then.

3. Whatever the reason is that it is not working for some, it is definitely a problem with Google though. I even downloaded the page with curl -O and it is served incomplete.

4. And, tooki, I have been said to "suck" just because I experience this problem. And you call me insulting?

1. That source code only shares a few lines in common with what I am getting. The part in bold (the head) is the part our pages have in common. The rest (the body) is entirely different. Google uses IP detection to geographically-alter their content (e.g. automatically redirecting google.com to google.de from a German IP address). Perhaps something is messing up. Try clearing your google cookies.

In any case, my hunch with this problem is that it's not a Mac vs. PC issue. I'd be willing to bet that if you put a Windows PC onto your same internet connection, you'd have the same problem.

What happens if you use an anonymizing proxy (e.g. www.anonymizer.com) to view the link?

2. How about a google search? Looking at one source is hardly wise or definitive.

3. Well, clearly it's not a problem for everyone. I and almost everyone who posted in this thread have had no trouble.

4. You started it: you got hostile in your second post. Nobody had been rude to you by then, but you were rude to us. No wonder people retorted back (and awaspass's post was clearly in jest).

tooki

Y3a · Oct 14, 2005, 12:47 PM

worked for me on my G5, thru a DSL. perhaps your system 6.03 OS is having problems?