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Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 18, 2005, 11:09 AM

Lugz shoe commercial
http://www.coudal.com/i/ipod.jpg

ReggieX · Oct 18, 2005, 11:26 AM

Don't give us a link to the two so we can see them both or anything.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 18, 2005, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by ReggieX

Don't give us a link to the two so we can see them both or anything.

Don't have one online but I thought that link above illustrated the point rather nicely

the_glassman · Oct 18, 2005, 11:37 AM

http://www.lugz.com/timeline/subevent/2002/video.html
http://www.apple.com/itunes/ads/

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 18, 2005, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by the_glassman

http://www.lugz.com/timeline/subevent/2002/video.html
http://www.apple.com/itunes/ads/

Damn, that is a brutal copy. All Apple did is add some white paint splashes instead of the black lines.

Shame on you Apple.

mdc · Oct 18, 2005, 11:40 AM

the three images on the left are the ipod advert, and the three images on the right are the lugz advert.

here's the apple ipod advert video

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Oct 18, 2005, 11:53 AM

Do we know that it wasn't the same ad agency or creative team? Just asking before, ya know, the mob rises in unfounded disgust.

DeathMan · Oct 18, 2005, 12:01 PM

If anything the lugz is a ripoff (extension) of the original ipod videos. Didn't steve say they were working on that ad for quite some time before they could actually air it?

itistoday · Oct 18, 2005, 12:06 PM

I remember reading that Apple's Eminem ad was cancelled. Now it seems we know why...

TETENAL · Oct 18, 2005, 12:07 PM

Originally Posted by DeathMan

Didn't steve say they were working on that ad for quite some time before they could actually air it?

He was probably referring to negotiating with that rapper.

invisibleX · Oct 18, 2005, 12:18 PM

Apple's is way better. That shoe commercial was just retarded.

El Gato · Oct 18, 2005, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by itistoday

I remember reading that Apple's Eminem ad was cancelled. Now it seems we know why...

I saw it on TV last night

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 18, 2005, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by invisibleX

Apple's is way better. That shoe commercial was just retarded.

Yes the Apple one is better, but it is 3 years later and totally stole the idea.

GSixZero · Oct 18, 2005, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by El Gato

I saw it on TV last night

Long ago apple was planning an Emimenmenen ad, but there was a copyright infringement complaint regarding another iPod commercial.

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Oct 18, 2005, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

Yes the Apple one is better, but it is 3 years later and totally stole the idea.

You totally have proof?

Kevin · Oct 18, 2005, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn

You totally have proof?

Wait for some smarmy reply back... with no proof.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 18, 2005, 12:56 PM

Originally Posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn

You totally have proof?

What kind of proof would you like?

Kevin · Oct 18, 2005, 12:59 PM

Probably the kind that proves they STOLE it.

ort888 · Oct 18, 2005, 01:13 PM

I think what really makes it weird is that they both have an almost identical orange backdrop. If Apple had chosen some other color, it probably wouldn't have ever been noticed.

waxcrash · Oct 18, 2005, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

Yes the Apple one is better, but it is 3 years later and totally stole the idea.

A good artist copies, a great artist steals.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 18, 2005, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by ort888

I think what really makes it weird is that they both have an almost identical orange backdrop. If Apple had chosen some other color, it probably wouldn't have ever been noticed.

Exactly, Each are black silhouettes of people dancing on orange backgrounds of cityscapes.

You have to be one hell of an Apple Apologist to think this is a coincidence.

Kevin · Oct 18, 2005, 01:25 PM

SWF, it may very well have nothing to do with Apple. I am not an apologist by any means.
But you are making factual statements with (still)no proof.

Telling you that doesn't make anyone an apologist.

KeyLimePi · Oct 18, 2005, 01:37 PM

Forget that Apple copied a three-year-old design...why the heck did use Eminem? He's about eight months away from sharing a room with the dude from the Dell commericals on 'The Surreal Life.'

rickey939 · Oct 18, 2005, 02:20 PM

Cupertino...start your copiers.

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Oct 18, 2005, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

SWF, it may very well have nothing to do with Apple. I am not an apologist by any means.
But you are making factual statements with (still)no proof.

Telling you that doesn't make anyone an apologist.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 18, 2005, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn

Haven't answered the question of what proof you would like have you

You want me to run over to Steves house and get something signed?

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Oct 18, 2005, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

Haven't answered the question of what proof you would like have you

You want me to run over to Steves house and get something signed?

Kevin covered that for me just fine, thanks.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 18, 2005, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn

Kevin covered that for me just fine, thanks.

That's nice, dont' read his stuff. Care to give me what "proof" you want?

How about a press release from Apple or an admission form the creative team? Will that do?

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Oct 18, 2005, 03:20 PM

Funny, you didn't answer my question to begin with. All it requires is a yes or no.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 18, 2005, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn

Funny, you didn't answer my question to begin with. All it requires is a yes or no.

How can I say yes or no when you give me such a vague question.

I have ask you for specifics but you give none. I gave you side by side comparisons, videos etc but that's not good enough.

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Oct 18, 2005, 03:47 PM

Vague?
Either you have factual proof to back up your specific claim that Apple "stole the idea" or you don't.

The side-by-side and videos aren't proof of theft, they merely show that the ads are similar. Again, how do we know it was or wasn't the same creative team? How do we know that Apple did or didn't get permission? We don't, yet you seem convinced of their guilt with nary a shred of corroborative evidence.

demograph68 · Oct 18, 2005, 04:11 PM

Looks like a rip but, this IS a forum for devoted apple users... APPLE RULZ! M$ SUKZ! Etc...

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 18, 2005, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn

Again, how do we know it was or wasn't the same creative team? How do we know that Apple did or didn't get permission? We don't, yet you seem convinced of their guilt with nary a shred of corroborative evidence.

Either way who cares. Making it the same creative team makes it even more pathetic. Who sells the same ad to two clients?

If Apple got permission it is still a bite off of the shoe ad.

Artful Dodger · 08:20 PM

That is stolen. Rickey style.

Kerrigan · Oct 18, 2005, 06:44 PM

"Good artists copy, great artists steal"

MM-o4 · Oct 18, 2005, 06:57 PM

sorry but it's not like I hadn't seen that colour scheme before the lugs ad either.
There are lots of things that look the same now-a-days.
But I think that they could have gotten away with it if the background was another colour.

My 2cents

MM

deej5871 · Oct 18, 2005, 07:39 PM

Umm...I really don't get how so many people see this as stolen.

It's just another silhouette ad. But, like the U2 ad, the artist is not entirely silhouetted so that you can actually tell it's the artist. I'm betting they put the city in the background because Eminem is "all about the streetz yo" so they put him in a city (Detroit). The orange is probably the same orange they use in their other silhouette ads.

jonasmac · Oct 18, 2005, 09:12 PM

"There is nothing new under the sun."

demograph68 · Oct 18, 2005, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

"Good artists copy, great artists steal"

OH NOES! M$ COPIED SO & SO!

I'm not for originality really since so much that we have now is inspired by older styles. I can't say I'd care either way. But to put this in perspective, it's just an ad. My cynical side just tunes that stuff out anyway. I guess I'm not the Apple fanatic I once was.

JoshuaZ · Oct 18, 2005, 09:41 PM

Its laziness by the advertising team. Stupid, but ok in all reality. Unless they get sued Willy style.

rozwado1 · Oct 18, 2005, 09:43 PM

I think the ad sucks. At the end it should pan out to show that the commercial was playing on a video iPod. It only makes sense.

Cubeoid · Oct 19, 2005, 12:52 AM

Originally Posted by rozwado1

I think the ad sucks. At the end it should pan out to show that the commercial was playing on a video iPod. It only makes sense.

That is a good idea.

Kevin · Oct 19, 2005, 05:47 AM

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

Haven't answered the question of what proof you would like have you

You want me to run over to Steves house and get something signed?

SWF, what proof do you think he wants? That Apple stole it.

Duh, he already asked you that ONCE. You are just beating around the bush because you know you have none.

That once again, you are making baseless accusations. Big surprise.

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Oct 20, 2005, 11:33 AM

One of the stories on this rip off. It was NOT made by the same company.

http://www.macnewsworld.com/rsstory/46837.html

sek929 · Oct 20, 2005, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by rozwado1

I think the ad sucks. At the end it should pan out to show that the commercial was playing on a video iPod. It only makes sense.

Steve Sez "You're hired"

Kevin · Oct 20, 2005, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

One of the stories on this rip off. It was NOT made by the same company.

http://www.macnewsworld.com/rsstory/46837.html

Cool read, but still no proof on whos fault it was.

Webscreamer · Oct 22, 2005, 12:27 AM

So what what advertising agency did it? Chiat Day? Chiat Day maybe outsourced it to to blkmrkt.com like they did with other projects...it's totally his style(even though he doesn't do motion graphics).

So what ad did it then?

Scandalous Ion Cannon · Oct 22, 2005, 12:31 AM

Originally Posted by Webscreamer

So what what advertising agency did it? Chiat Day? Chiat Day maybe outsourced it to to blkmrkt.com like they did with other projects...it's totally his style(even though he doesn't do motion graphics).

So what ad did it then?

"The 4-year-old Lugz ad was created by New York animation house Psyop on behalf of another ad agency."

Webscreamer · Oct 22, 2005, 12:36 AM

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

"The 4-year-old Lugz ad was created by New York animation house Psyop on behalf of another ad agency."

No no no... what ad agency did Apple's new iPod Eminem ad?

Scandalous Ion Cannon · Oct 22, 2005, 12:51 AM

Originally Posted by Webscreamer

No no no... what ad agency did Apple's new iPod Eminem ad?

From the same story and the company that does all their other ads.... TBWA.