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I Capn' its Transparent Aluminum
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Cool. I was actually thinking about this over the weekend. Unfortunately, I don't have a PhD in chemistry and was unable to formulate the material.
Really. This is cool.
I wonder if it'll be available at LensCrafters?
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Originally Posted by Silky Voice of The Gorn
"Aye"
I was wondering how long that would take. 17 minutes, apparently.
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it's "virtually scratch resistant"? 
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Originally Posted by stevesnj
The Air Force made some transparent Aluminum...its about time..jeezz
The Air Force didn't make it. Fraunhofer IKTS in Dresden did. The Air Force is just testing it. And it's not transparent aluminium. It's transparent aluminiumoxide.
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Dang it... I do Rock chip repair for windshields. When this hits the consumer market... I'll have my degree and be working in a far more lucrative profession... never mind

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Originally Posted by TETENAL
The Air Force didn't make it. Fraunhofer IKTS in Dresden did. The Air Force is just testing it. And it's not transparent aluminium. It's transparent aluminiumoxide.
Well they are testing it...but it is aluminum...the oxide is alumina which is the main componant of aluminum
http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/a1/alumina.asp
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They should make iPod nanos from this stuff to solve the scratching problem.
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Originally Posted by stevesnj
Your chemistry is a bit suspect - Aluminium is an element, aluminium oxide is a compound - of Aluminium and Oxygen - therefore Aluminium is a component of Aluminium Oxide, not the other way round.
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Originally Posted by stevesnj
Erm. No. You have it all backwards. Aluminum (the metal) is extracted from alumina, similarly to how sugar is extracted from sugar cane. That doesn't mean that alumina is an ingredient of aluminum, just as it doesn't mean that sugar cane is an ingredient of sugar.
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Actually you are all wrong about everything:
A) It's NOT aluminum oxide (Al2O3) it's aluminum oxynitride (AlON).
B) It was developed by Raytheon (Lexington, MS) not Fraunhofer IKTS (they are developing aluminum oxide which is NOT this material). Aluminum oxynitride is now being developed by Surmet Corp. under an agreement with Raytheon.
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/mi...E=Jul+25,+2002
Funny how people try to make arguments about something they know absolutely nothing about and linking to articles that have nothing to do with this material.

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Originally Posted by tooki
Erm. No. You have it all backwards. Aluminum (the metal) is extracted from alumina, similarly to how sugar is extracted from sugar cane. That doesn't mean that alumina is an ingredient of aluminum, just as it doesn't mean that sugar cane is an ingredient of sugar.
tooki
Correction. "sugarcane was an ingredient of sugar".
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Originally Posted by Mrjinglesusa
Funny how people try to make arguments about something they know absolutely nothing about and linking to articles that have nothing to do with this material.
First day on the internet?

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Great! Ever since I was young I have wanted to fly in an all transparent Boeing 747, now this could take us one step closer to that dream of mine.
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Originally Posted by tooki
Erm. No. You have it all backwards. Aluminum (the metal) is extracted from alumina, similarly to how sugar is extracted from sugar cane. That doesn't mean that alumina is an ingredient of aluminum, just as it doesn't mean that sugar cane is an ingredient of sugar.
tooki
So wait... Alumina is a plant? 
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Ok not like its a big deal but heres another article calling it tranparent aluminum, first sentance of the article...i guess these scientists need to post on Macnn forums before they call this Aluminum 'transparent'. Someone please contact the government and tell them they are calling this the wrong thing..geez I thought it was cool but you guys are way to serious about fun sh*t
http://www.livescience.com/technolog...new_glass.html
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I seem to remember this "transparent aluminum" from 2 or 3 years ago. Nothing new to report. Move along.
(and stop fighting)
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Originally Posted by meelk
I seem to remember this "transparent aluminum" from 2 or 3 years ago. Nothing new to report. Move along.
(and stop fighting)
first time I ever heard or seen it thats why i posted it. 
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Originally Posted by Fred_Cokebottle
Correction. "sugarcane was an ingredient of sugar".
Heh, no. Lots of sugar is made from sugar beets these days (especially in Europe), but worldwide, most is made from sugar cane.
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Originally Posted by Fred_Cokebottle
Great! Ever since I was young I have wanted to fly in an all transparent Boeing 747, now this could take us one step closer to that dream of mine.

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Originally Posted by tooki
Heh, no. Lots of sugar is made from sugar beets these days (especially in Europe), but worldwide, most is made from sugar cane.
tooki
there was good program on Discovery HD about Cuba and their export/farming of sugar cane (that the US can't get anymore). i think they still provide almost al the sugar cane used in the world outside the US.
also, Biography had a program on Hershey a couple nights ago. Mr. Hershey started a whole city there at the turn of the century so he could make sure he got the best of the best; he created schools/roads/homes/factories for the 'perfect' little town of workers just as he did in PA for the main plant/headquarters.
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Originally Posted by residentEvil
... i think [Cuba] still provide almost al the sugar cane used in the world outside the US...
Not even close
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Originally Posted by christ
true dat...
in the time context of the shows i was watching, specially at the turn of the century, cuba was number one though.
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