Welcome to the MacNN Forums.

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

You are here: MacNN Forums > Community > MacNN Lounge > Halloween Costume Contridictions

Halloween Costume Contridictions
Thread Tools
Mac Elite
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: SoCal
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 26, 2005, 04:18 PM
 
This topic was brought up on the radio the other day and I thought it would be a good forum topic:

Why are some Halloween Costumes acceptable and some not? Take for instance, a Nazi Soldier or Osama Bin Laden, these are obviously not acceptable halloween costumes, but yet people dress up like the Devil all the time! The Devil, if you actually believe in your own religion, is worse than both of these earlier examples. One of the most popular costumes for Christians (or anyone for that matter) this halloween will be the devil or something satanic than anything else. Is it that they do not believe their own religion? Is it that people can't put a real face on the devil? People can hardly use the real reason why people dress up as the reason for why they will dress up that way, because the common man does not know the origins of halloween. People will also be dressing up as Vikings, who raped and pillaged, and pirates, who terrorized the seas. So why is there this contradiction and what makes a good costume vs. a bad one?

Version 4.0 - Now Powered By iWeb
     
Mac Elite
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Dark Side of the Moon
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 26, 2005, 04:42 PM
 
Yeah it is interesting. Prince Harry Whatever dressed up as a Nazi and that was obviously a faux-pas, but people can dress up like pirates and that's fine, even though they killed and even still do kill people all across the world.

Most people don't know that Halloween is a Pagan festival of course (as most Christian festivals - Halloween not at all a religious festival of course - have Pagan roots, a way for the Church to gain acceptance is to assimilate the festivals that everyone has, thus Christmas, Easter etc are based off old Pagan festivals).

Anyway, there may be some difference because the Devil is supernatural. Many religions have festivals where people dress up as gods, good or evil, as a way of honouring them, appeasing them, or warding them away. So it's perhaps not so hard to understand the Devil costumes, but pirates, nazis, serial killers etc. is different - these are based off humans so dressing as them serves no purpose other than to scare. Since Halloween has lost it's meaning apart for the few Pagans around, I suppose if the costume scares it's a good one. Nazis aren't scary though, just a bit sick, it's still too close to home for a lot of people.
     
Grizzled Veteran
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: case.edu
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 26, 2005, 04:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by monkeybrain
Most people don't know that Halloween is a Pagan festival of course (as most Christian festivals - Halloween not at all a religious festival of course - have Pagan roots, a way for the Church to gain acceptance is to assimilate the festivals that everyone has, thus Christmas, Easter etc are based off old Pagan festivals).
Halloween is, in fact, another example of a pagan festival appropriated by the Church. "All Hallows Eve(ning)" is the night before All Saints' Day.

Also, some Protestants (it seems especially common among the Calvinist/Reformed flavors) celebrate October 31 as Reformation Day, the anniversary of the day Martin Luther nailed the 95 Theses to the cathedral door.

pb 1440x960 | 1.67, 1.5, 128, 80 | leopard
     
Clinically Insane
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: San Diego, CA, USA
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 26, 2005, 04:51 PM
 
From the examples you cited, it would seem that "evil" costumes are acceptable if they don't appear to be targeted at anyone specific. Thus, devils and pirates are OK while Hitler is not.
Chuck
___
"Instead of either 'multi-talented' or 'multitalented' use 'bisexual'."
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Tampa, Florida
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 26, 2005, 05:11 PM
 
Don't go to a Cuban household with a Fidel Castro outfit. Don't stand in the middle of the 'hood with a KKK suit. Don't visit your Jewish colleague with a Hitler look. Don't go to the convent with the Pastor+SucklingKid costume.
If you don't care about hurting anyone's feelings, then go ahead.
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: FFM
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 26, 2005, 05:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by iDriveX
Why are some Halloween Costumes acceptable and some not? Take for instance, a Nazi Soldier or Osama Bin Laden, these are obviously not acceptable halloween costumes
Nazi costumes are perfectly fine for the royal family.

     
Baninated
Join Date: Sep 2005
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 26, 2005, 08:01 PM
 
It's because most people realize deep down the devil and god are total ********.
     
Addicted to MacNN
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Tampa, Florida
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 26, 2005, 08:19 PM
 
God vs. Satan = Virtue vs. Vice.
     
Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Silicon Valley
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 26, 2005, 08:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Godfather
Don't go to a Cuban household with a Fidel Castro outfit. Don't stand in the middle of the 'hood with a KKK suit. Don't visit your Jewish colleague with a Hitler look. Don't go to the convent with the Pastor+SucklingKid costume.
If you don't care about hurting anyone's feelings, then go ahead.
Did you look in my costume closet?
     
Professional Poster
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Yamanashi, Japan
Status: Offline
Reply With Quote
Oct 26, 2005, 08:48 PM
 
Its all PC stuff. Completely depends on where you are and what you`re doing.

Why can`t we all just be disco dancers?
     
   
Thread Tools
Forum Links
Forum Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On
Top
Privacy Policy
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:05 AM.
All contents of these forums © 1995-2011 MacNN. All rights reserved.
Branding + Design: www.gesamtbild.com
vBulletin v.3.8.7 © 2000-2011, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd., Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2