[Rob van dam]

In a recent conversation with a friend we came across the topic of the intrusions that technology has brought into our day to day lives.So anyway we began to talk about phone calls being bugged and then he mentioned phone scramblers.Whilst i realise they are not cheap.Would any of use assume you had the money go ahead and purchase one?Do you know anyone who has one?Are there any health risks.Ie(increase exposure to electromagnetic fields. The addition of a scrambler might augment these levels.

Any thoughts

[Goldfinger]

Seriously, why would you buy something like that ? Unless you're into things like organised crime... I can't imagine how those things would work either.

[Rob van dam]

Originally Posted by Goldfinger

Seriously, why would you buy something like that ? Unless you're into things like organised crime... I can't imagine how those things would work either.

Like i said just a thought that cam up during converstaion.I became so paranoid after i receieved a call late at night in regards to an email its not funny

[tooki]

A cellphone scrambler must be scrambling the signal before it is transmitted. (Intercepting a cell wireless signal is damned near impossible, to the point that it is never done. All interception is done once the signal is on a land line.)

Regardless, I don't get what it is you need this for. Call bugging is not done unless you're already high on the government's radar, because it is so wildly labor intensive.


As for a call in response to an email. What's so weird about that? I send people emails and sometimes they call back. Companies generally don't, since I haven't given them my number.

tooki

[production_coordinator]

I wish they had a cell phone dampener field for the movie theater, designated public transportation and restaurants.

[gururafiki]

Originally Posted by production_coordinator

I wish they had a cell phone dampener field for the movie theater, designated public transportation and restaurants.

And grocery stores. I used to be a cashier, and I got pissed when people would come through my line and totally ignore me as the blabbed away on their phone as I bagged their groceries. I did, however, enjoy it when they forgot their change, or all their groceries because they were too busy on their phone to acknowledge another human presence.

[SSharon]

Originally Posted by production_coordinator

I wish they had a cell phone dampener field for the movie theater, designated public transportation and restaurants.

Although in theory I agree with you, there are some very good reasons not to block cellphones. Many people, particularly people from out of state, need directions and when they are on the metro in washington DC its impossible to get through to them unless they are using versizon. Similarly, think how much it would suck when someone has a heart attack in a restaurant and they can't call 911 because they don't have service. Yes, I know they can use a land line, but why add extra time, on the metro, or a public bus this is even more problematic.

I know someone that has a cell phone jammer and he uses it when walking down the street in NYC sometimes when he gets pissed that so many people are oblivious to traffic because they are talking. Its range is limited, and he only turns it on long enough for the call to drop so people don't realize.

[production_coordinator]

I should preface my comment with (naturally 911 would still work... and the subway would break up the train into sections (no cell phone and cell phone) etc. etc.

[Rob van dam]

Originally Posted by tooki

A cellphone scrambler must be scrambling the signal before it is transmitted. (Intercepting a cell wireless signal is damned near impossible, to the point that it is never done. All interception is done once the signal is on a land line.)

Regardless, I don't get what it is you need this for. Call bugging is not done unless you're already high on the government's radar, because it is so wildly labor intensive.


As for a call in response to an email. What's so weird about that? I send people emails and sometimes they call back. Companies generally don't, since I haven't given them my number.

tooki

tooki it wasnt a company and i dont want to go into to much detail but this email was sent and i still dont understand how they got my number but this physically threatened me.

[Captain Obvious]

Since phones work on various types of frequencies here in the US wouldn't the only way to kill a signal be to make the room into a Faraday cage?

[tooki]

Originally Posted by production_coordinator

I wish they had a cell phone dampener field for the movie theater, designated public transportation and restaurants.

Outside the USA, these things exist. It's a scrambling signal.

Such devices are strictly illegal in the USA, so here, anti-cellphone wallpaper has been developed that turns the room into a large Faraday cage. But it costs something like $500/m2, so it's well out of reach for most installations.

Originally Posted by Rob van dam

tooki it wasnt a company and i dont want to go into to much detail but this email was sent and i still dont understand how they got my number but this physically threatened me.

Um, by definition it's impossible to be physically threatened by a phone call. You could be threatened with physical violence over a call, but little else. The phone call itself can't do anything. Regardless, as for email being used to look up your phone number: that's an unrelated problem. There's no central database with these things, so either the person did serious sleuthing, or you have something online on a publicly searchable page that has your email and phone on it. Or your email has your name on it and they looked you up in the phone book.

Regardless, phone scrambling isn't a fix for your problem.

tooki

[tooki]

Originally Posted by Captain Obvious

Since phones work on various types of frequencies here in the US wouldn't the only way to kill a signal be to make the room into a Faraday cage?

The scramblers transmit a scrambling signal for each band that the phones use.

A Faraday cage would also need to be tuned to specific frequency bands in order to be effective (hence the high cost of the wallpaper mentioned above).

tooki

[Rob van dam]

Originally Posted by tooki

Outside the USA, these things exist. It's a scrambling signal.

Such devices are strictly illegal in the USA, so here, anti-cellphone wallpaper has been developed that turns the room into a large Faraday cage. But it costs something like $500/m2, so it's well out of reach for most installations.


Um, by definition it's impossible to be physically threatened by a phone call. You could be threatened with physical violence over a call, but little else. The phone call itself can't do anything. Regardless, as for email being used to look up your phone number: that's an unrelated problem. There's no central database with these things, so either the person did serious sleuthing, or you have something online on a publicly searchable page that has your email and phone on it. Or your email has your name on it and they looked you up in the phone book.

Regardless, phone scrambling isn't a fix for your problem.

tooki

yeah it most probably isnt my fix.I wont go into the details of that call but you to would be worried.My details are not on any public lisitings or in my email so ive still been scratching my head about that one.

[MsAmerica]

I would LOVE to buy a cell phone scrambler. Unless you ride a bus or train, you have no idea how frustrating it is to have to listen to shouts of "OH MY GOD! NO WAY! SHE STUCK HER WHAT IN HIS WHERE!?!" because some stupid attention whore can't stfu on a bus where everyone else is reading. You'd think the bus drivers would make them stop since it's disruptive to their driving, but the only time I've seen that happen is when this BIG girl almost got into a fist fight with a blind man because she was screaming in his ear and the bus driver had the good sense to kick the woman off the bus.

Please, watch your volume level on your cell phones, people. You sound like parrots mindlessly jabbering on and on and on and really, nobody gives a **** if you're torn between the Beemer and the VW so you can just keep it quietly to yourself instead of screaming it at the top of your lungs to the entire world.

At any rate, I'd love a cell phone signal scrambler to mess with people on the bus. So far glaring at them and telling them to shut up and yelling the inane details of my life at the person next to me doesn't work, so this is what I have to fall back on.

[Laminar]

Rob. I'm calling it on the first post.

[Rob van dam]

Originally Posted by Laminar 

Rob. I'm calling it on the first post.

Calling what ???

[Person Man]

Originally Posted by Laminar 

Rob. I'm calling it on the first post.

No. It's not like Rob to drag up a two year old zombie thread.

[Rob van dam]

Originally Posted by Person Man 

No. It's not like Rob to drag up a two year old zombie thread.

get over it.you can thanks ms america for that.

[Laminar]

Not you. Someone else.

[Dakarʒ]

What's on second?

[ThinkInsane]

A zombie, by the looks of it.