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nonhuman · Nov 26, 2005, 03:20 PM

I really don't think this should count as politics, but we'll see what the consensus is...

Apparently some teacher in Vermont is in trouble because he gave a vocab. quiz that took a stab at Prez. Bush. One example:

I wish Bush would be (coherent, eschewed) for once during a speech, but there are theories that his everyday diction charms the below-average mind, hence insuring him Republican votes.

Ah the irony. I agree this teacher should be in trouble over this quiz, and possibly shouldn't be teaching at all. But this has nothing whatsoever to do with his politics and everything to do with his understanding of the English language. And on a vocab quiz too...

demograph68 · Nov 26, 2005, 03:27 PM

Well, it's not like he's teaching rubbish like some people want in Kansas.

Kevin · Nov 26, 2005, 03:28 PM

The teacher saying that says more about himself, than Bush actually.

Political zealousness is funny

Both sides are full of it.

He is just trying to brainwash the kids for "her side" instead of letting them making their own conscience choice.

Political zealots would rather make damn sure they pic their side though.

I had a teacher like that in the 2nd grade. When Ronnie wont the first election.

She went on and on about how Carter would have been a better man, etc etc.

She actually had to be spoken with by the principal because it got so bad.

nonhuman · Nov 26, 2005, 03:36 PM

Ok, I was hoping to keep the politics out of this. There's plenty in that single quote I provided to use against the teacher without bringing politics into this. Let's not get this kicked to the pol lounge, eh?

DeathToWindows · Nov 26, 2005, 04:32 PM

I'd say that the classroom isn't the place for this, but it is nontheless amusing to read.

However, I would say that we are better off firing teachers for incompitence rather than political disagreement. Yes, the principal should have a word, but sacking is a bit much.

ghporter · Nov 26, 2005, 05:02 PM

If the statement had been better written, he could have gotten away with it. The derrogatory material at the end was unnecessary to make the point.

"I wish President Bush would be (coherent, eschewed) for once during a speech." That would have been much better, and probably would have slid right by most people. He could have gotten his warm-fuzzy for making a political statement, and nobody would have complained.

Oneota · Nov 26, 2005, 05:30 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

If the statement had been better written, he could have gotten away with it. The derrogatory material at the end was unnecessary to make the point.

"I wish President Bush would be (coherent, eschewed) for once during a speech." That would have been much better, and probably would have slid right by most people. He could have gotten his warm-fuzzy for making a political statement, and nobody would have complained.

Yeah, but both answers are correct!

ghporter · Nov 26, 2005, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by Oneota

Yeah, but both answers are correct!

Not quite, but close.

Maybe "I wish the pres more frequently eschewed corporate suits." would work.

AKcrab · Nov 26, 2005, 05:46 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I had a teacher like that in the 2nd grade.

You remember second grade? My life seems to start in 4th grade, but I'm thinking it might be because the family moved when before I started kindergarden and moved again when I finished 3rd grade.

Oisín · Nov 26, 2005, 06:10 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

Not quite, but close.

Although not the best sentence in the world, wouldn't it still be grammatically and semantically acceptable to say “I wish Bush would be eschewed for once during a speech”? Or is it broadening the exact sense of 'eschew' to extend it to mean simply 'ignore' in this case? Must something eschewed be an action of sorts, rather than a person?

Also, this thread prompted me to look up 'eschew' for the exact meaning, and I found out I'd been mispronouncing it completely all these years, pronouncing the ch as a k, rather than a tj. Whoopsies.

Kevin · Nov 26, 2005, 06:41 PM

Originally Posted by AKcrab

You remember second grade? My life seems to start in 4th grade, but I'm thinking it might be because the family moved when before I started kindergarden and moved again when I finished 3rd grade.

Yes, I also remember getting my tonsils taken out when I was 4.

Powermacguy9 · Nov 26, 2005, 07:08 PM

nope

Oneota · Nov 26, 2005, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

Not quite, but close.

Maybe "I wish the pres more frequently eschewed corporate suits." would work.

D'oh....you're right. I had it in my head that eschewed was synonymous with shunned. My bad.

besson3c · Nov 26, 2005, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by Powermacguy9

nope

Heheh.. according to his record as of this very moment, he has one post. Is this it? Banned for this?

I know this is probably Rob and was probably banned for being a dumbass, his offending post(s) erased, but this still made me laugh.

Kevin · Nov 26, 2005, 07:28 PM

He had about 10 posts. All with a nasty naked Santa posted in them about 10 times.

Demon is just quick like that.

KeriVit · Nov 26, 2005, 07:46 PM

double

besson3c · Nov 26, 2005, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

He had about 10 posts. All with a nasty naked Santa posted in them about 10 times.

Demon is just quick like that.

Hehe... what idiocy did he include in his emails, other than the Santa pic?

Kevin · Nov 26, 2005, 10:15 PM

emails?

besson3c · Nov 26, 2005, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

emails?

I meant posts...

JoshuaZ · Nov 26, 2005, 10:26 PM

Was he posting more horrible pictures? Which seems to be a MacNN trend these days.

Kevin · Nov 26, 2005, 10:33 PM

Some kids were obviously not breast fed.

Or their mothers are STILL breast feeding them.

One of the two.

stevesnj · Nov 26, 2005, 10:34 PM

I say this is no big deal...kids are to recite a religious right statement everyday.. 'the pledge of allegiance'. The origianal written by a Baptist never had the word 'God' in it till the Knights of Columbus stuck their nose into it. Seems the Right has their paryer in schools now as it is and watch out if you try to let our kids enjoy a sense of humor about or President. We better check with the Govenment before we question them which I thought was our right to anyway.

Kevin · Nov 26, 2005, 10:37 PM

Wait.. what does religion have to do with this topic steve?

Nothing. Not a darn thing. Not even comparable.

ambush · Nov 26, 2005, 10:40 PM

My politics teacher has an anti-monarchy anti-canadian, pro-independance spin.

Can't say I don't enjoy it, coming from a doctor in politics... always the top notch arguments.

tooki · Nov 26, 2005, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

He had about 10 posts. All with a nasty naked Santa posted in them about 10 times.

Demon is just quick like that.

Actually, thank mindwaves for the quick deletion of all the filth!

tooki

stevesnj · Nov 26, 2005, 10:56 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Wait.. what does religion have to do with this topic steve?

Nothing. Not a darn thing. Not even comparable.

No it doesn't but I am saying how a teacher is told how he can teach. Why can't he use the president as an example. This is a total liberal view by him he admitted, yet someone comes along and tells him he cannot do this. The reason I bring up the 'Under God' issue is that this is a conservative issue that has been fought enough to allow religious beliefs in public schools yet only one guy in Claifonia has had the guts to stand up to this and he was told he was wrong. But one instance of our given right to give a liberal view in a quiz and his credentials are questioned. Wow what a thing to teach the kids...conform to a political party point of view of suffer the consequences. Also the superintendant said '"It's absolutely unacceptable,""They (teachers) don't have a license to hold forth on a particular standpoint." but the kids are to say 'Under God' in the pledge?? Seems like they Right is allowed a standpoint and not the Left

CNN article http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/11....ap/index.html

Kevin · Nov 26, 2005, 11:29 PM

It's just not a conservative issue. But whatever. Start a new thread.