[Cody Dawg]

I'm all for animal rights and do animal rescue, but PETA's new campaign to frighten little kids is pretty sick: "Your Daddy Kills Animals"

he handout, titled "Your Daddy Kills Animals," features a grinning lunatic gutting a fish, and warns kids to keep their puppies and kittens away from Dad because he's "hooked on killing."

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It's stuff like this that makes them lose any credibility.

Why don't they write a book, "PETA Kills Animals in North Carolina" or their campaign to kill off dogs: "Better Dead Than Fed"

PETA goes too far and apparently they are hypocrites. That's why I align myself with a local rescue group or do it myself. Too bad there isn't a better national animal rights organization other than PETA.

DON'T BE FOOLED by the slick propaganda of PETA, People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The organization may claim to champion the welfare of animals, as the many photos of cute puppies and kittens on its Web site suggest. But last week, two PETA employees were charged with 31 felony counts of animal cruelty each, after authorities found them dumping the dead bodies of 18 animals they had just picked up from a North Carolina animal shelter into a Dumpster. According to the Associated Press, 13 more dead animals were found in a van registered to PETA.

The arrest followed a rash of unwelcome discoveries of dead animals dumped in the area. According to veterinarian Patrick Proctor, the PETA people told North Carolina shelters they would try to find the dogs and cats homes. He handed over two adoptable kittens and their mother, only to learn later that they had died, without a chance to find a home, in the PETA van. "This is ethical?" Proctor railed over the phone. "I don't really think so."

This is not the first report that PETA killed animals it claimed to protect. In 1991, PETA killed 18 rabbits and 14 roosters it had previously "rescued" from a research facility. "We just don't have the money" to care for them, then PETA-Chairman Alex Pacheco told the Washington Times. The PETA animal shelter had run out of room.

The Center for Consumer Freedom, which represents the food industry, a frequent target of PETA campaigns, released data filed by PETA with the state of Virginia that shows PETA has killed more than 10,000 animals from 1998 to 2003. "In 2003, PETA euthanized over 85 percent of the animals it took in," said a press release from the lobby, "finding adoptive homes for just 14 percent. By comparison, the Norfolk (Va.) SPCA found adoptive homes for 73 percent of its animals and Virginia Beach SPCA adopted out 66 percent."

The Center's David Martosko considered PETA's hefty budget -- reportedly, $20 million -- and many contributions from well-heeled Hollywood celebrities, then figured, "PETA has enough money in the bank to care for every unwanted animal in Virginia (where it has its headquarters) and North Carolina."

PETA prefers to spend donations, apparently, not caring for flesh-and- blood animals entrusted to it but on campaigns attacking medical researchers, meat-eaters or women wearing furs. It is as if PETA prefers the idea of animals to animals themselves.

Why does PETA kill animals that might otherwise find a home?

I repeatedly phoned PETA, but never reached an official who would answer my questions. PETA's Web site spun the story under the banner, "PETA helping animals in North Carolina" with an emphasis on its efforts to "solve the animal overpopulation in North Carolina." Here's more: "PETA has provided euthanasia services to various counties in that state to prevent animals from being shot with a .22 behind a shed or gassed in windowless metal boxes -- both practices that were carried out until PETA volunteered to provide painless death for the animals." Make that painless deaths for animals that could have found love.

Besides, PETA always has been about killing animals. A 2003 New Yorker profile included PETA top dog Ingrid Newkirk's story of how she became involved in animal rights after a shelter put down stray kittens she brought there. So she went to work for an animal shelter in the 1970s, where, she explained, "I would go to work early, before anyone got there, and I would just kill the animals myself. Because I couldn't stand to let them go through (other workers abusing the animals.) I must have killed a thousand of them, sometimes dozens every day."

That's right. PETA assails other parties for killing animals for food or research. Then it kills animals -- but for really important reasons, such as running out of room.

Martosko hopes animal lovers will learn that their donations will do more good at a local animal shelter than at PETA. "For years," he added, "we thought that PETA just cared for animals more than they cared for humans. But now it seems they don't care much for either."

No lie about not caring for people. In 2003, Newkirk hectored late Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat because a terrorist blew up a donkey in an attempt to blow up people. Newkirk also told the New Yorker the world would be a better place without people. She explained why she had herself sterilized: "I am opposed to having children. Having a purebred human baby is like having a purebred dog; it's nothing but vanity, human vanity."

Now you know. People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals doesn't really like people. PETA has no use for ethics. And PETA kills animals.

Note to readers: My husband, Wesley J. Smith, is a senior fellow on animal-rights issues at the Discovery Institute.E-mail: dsaunders@sfchronicle.com.

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[DeathToWindows]

Don't even get me started on these people. Way, way too easy - and I'd want to smite them when I was done.

[Cody Dawg]

[wdlove]

They are just too far out on the left to be believed. There tactics, turn most people off.

[BasketofPuppies]

Not to mention ties to terrorist organizations such as the Animal Liberation Front and Earth Liberation Front.

[production_coordinator]

The cheese fell off that cracker a LONG time ago.

[Goldfinger]

Originally Posted by wdlove

They are just too far out on the left to be believed. There tactics, turn most people off.

This has nothing to do with politics. Big for you wdlove.

They are just retarded that's all.

[His Dudeness]

Originally Posted by BasketofPuppies

Not to mention ties to terrorist organizations such as the Animal Liberation Front and Earth Liberation Front.

And the People's Front of Judea.

[Cody Dawg]

No, WD is right: Those people ARE way on the left - liberals, every one of them.

He doesn't mean anything bad by it, but they are.

The cheese fell off that cracker a LONG time ago.

Mind if I borrow that once in a while?

[demograph68]

It's kind of sexist since as we all know, mothers don't fish! :/

I'm going to eat a load of seafood this weekend... I swear to god...

[Kerrigan]

Frankly I think PETA should be banned from advertising. Full stop.

[BasketofPuppies]

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

No, WD is right: Those people ARE way on the left - liberals, every one of them.

Except for Bill Maher. He's a nutty libertarian.

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Frankly I think PETA should be banned from advertising. Full stop.

Seeing as almost all television stations reject its advertising, I don't think it's necessary.

[Cody Dawg]

Why they act this way is really weird, you know?

Why they destroy any shred of credibility that they have with this kind of nonsense?

[dcmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by His Dudeness

And the People's Front of Judea.

And the Judean People's Front

[BasketofPuppies]

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Why they act this way is really weird, you know?

Why they destroy any shred of credibility that they have with this kind of nonsense?

Publicity and not understanding that the publicity they get for their antics isn't getting their message across.

That and activists seem not to understand that what appeals to them often turns away others from their cause.

[Mastrap]

I am all in favour of animal rights, and I sure am a liberal, but PETA are just a bunch of nutcases.

[demograph68]

Mastrap, you are my hero.

[Cody Dawg]

Seconded!

[- - e r i k - -]

PETA is too easy to make fun of.

[stevesnj]

anyone for Chinese Food...lol

[wdlove]

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

No, WD is right: Those people ARE way on the left - liberals, every one of them.

He doesn't mean anything bad by it, but they are.



Mind if I borrow that once in a while?

Thank you Cody, my dear friend. You and I need to stick together.

[scaught]

Originally Posted by Mastrap

I am all in favour of animal rights, and I sure am a liberal, but PETA are just a bunch of nutcases.

i'm in favor of animal rights, am a vegetarian (almost vegan again at this point), am pretty liberal, despise factory farming, and think PETA are insane.

the topic of PETA usually comes at me often when people know i'm vegetarian and i'm like, i can't defend their bullsh1t. i don't think anyone can.

[JoshuaZ]

I don`t see why PETA was letting perfectly good animals go to waste. I mean a litter of kittens could feed a family of four with a single packet of Hampster Helper.

[Cody Dawg]

Reminds me of Will Sasso from MadTV and his basket of kittens and Kenny Rogers routine.

[JHromadka]

I lost all respect for PETA when they had a picture of Guiliani saying Got Prostate Cancer.

[DeathToWindows]

My response to PETA and similar: If you want medicine to go back to the Dark Ages, fine. Just don't take me with you.

Considering that their head is a Type 1 Diabetic (insulin-dependant) and would be suffering from a rather fatal case of dead without the results of animal research, they disgust me.

[Doofy]

PETA is just a bunch of bored women who're upset that they can't get any Doofy lovin' and thus end up more than a little frustrated (and therefore nutso).
And a bunch of blokes who figure that a bunch of frustrated Doofyless women are an easy target for their sandal-wearing, Emo-playing sad selves.

And that's the truth of the matter.

[isao bered]

Originally Posted by Doofy

PETA is just a bunch of bored women who're upset that they can't get any Doofy lovin' and thus end up more than a little frustrated (and therefore nutso).
And a bunch of blokes who figure that a bunch of frustrated Doofyless women are an easy target for their sandal-wearing, Emo-playing sad selves.

And that's the truth of the matter.

:-) it's really encouraging to see such high self-esteem.

and i guess this substantiates at least part of a good friend's philosophy of life:
"people are shallow. everything is either about sex, money, or both."

be well.

laeth

[OldManMac]

So, the question no one's answered yet is; would you hook your dog or cat and drag it around and then cut it open while it's still alive?

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy

And the Judean People's Front

I thought it was the Popular Peoples' Front?

[scaught]

Originally Posted by KarlG

So, the question no one's answered yet is; would you hook your dog or cat and drag it around and then cut it open while it's still alive?

no, but i'd try dining on human.

[Uncle Skeleton]

Originally Posted by KarlG

So, the question no one's answered yet is; would you hook your dog or cat and drag it around and then cut it open while it's still alive?

I think the main difference is fish have fish brains. Dogs and cats would arguably experience more anguish, and they would definitely remember it longer (than about 4 seconds). A better question would be would you do that to your pet goldfish. An even better quesiton than that would be why isn't PETA campaigning to stop animals from doing the exact same thing to each other in the wild? If the issue is animal suffering, it goes on far more at the hands of other animals than it does at the hands of sportsmen. I suspect the real motivation is for PETA members to fuel that superior feeling they get over other people.

[BasketofPuppies]

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

I don`t see why PETA was letting perfectly good animals go to waste. I mean a litter of kittens could feed a family of four with a single packet of Hampster Helper.

Post of the Week

[JoshuaZ]

Originally Posted by BasketofPuppies

Post of the Week

Man, with that kind of respect I think I should just retire....

Nothing is as fun as going to China and saying to your friends "I wonder how much Dog I've eaten in the past two weeks" and being totally serious about it. The expressions on their faces is priceless, especially since we were having dinner at the time.

[Apple Pro Underwear]

oh gawd, what the hell are people supposed to eat then?

if not land animals, sea animals are off the list? didn't they see lion king? circle of life!

[Mastrap]

I have no problems with eating animals. But I do have a problem with battery and pen farming, with 'intensively reared' lifestock. It's bad for the taste, it's bad for humans (hmmm, antibiotics and hormones) and it's, obviously, bad for the animals.

Go organic.

[demograph68]

Originally Posted by Mastrap

Go organic.

But... but... I like my artificial coloring and artificial flavoring! :'(

[ShotgunEd]

Originally Posted by Mastrap

I have no problems with eating animals. But I do have a problem with battery and pen farming, with 'intensively reared' lifestock. It's bad for the taste, it's bad for humans (hmmm, antibiotics and hormones) and it's, obviously, bad for the animals.

Go organic.

Ok, just to make my standpoint clear so you can see I'm unbiased, I'm a omnivore, but my g/f is a vegetarian and I don't fancy cooking 2 meals every night so I eat mostly vege food. I love lamb and steak though.

I also work for the Department of Agriculture and I'm surveying sheep farmers at the minute.

Intense farming isn't a lot different today than farming 200 years ago, just on a larger scale. Battery and penfarming are bad practices for the animal, so you should choose to eat free range.

Farmers that use hormones don't get Quality Assurance, so we can check that the meat we are eating grew naturally.

Organic livestock isn't the happiest livestock in the world running around their large field no a worry in the world. Antibiotics and sheep dip etc are used for the animals welfare. Sheep have maggots and lice and blowfly within and under their wool. They get footrot, black leg, liver dysfuntion and scab.

Farmers use antibiotics to prevent their sheep from dying before their prime butchering age. But it also means the animals have a much better life.

To say "Eat organic, its better for the animals" is ********. Its better for you, much worse for the animal.

[screamingFit]

PETA has always been off the deep end. Though I've supported them in the past and believe that they still have some worthwhile projects, by and large they are doing nothing more than pissing people off - and that doesn't do much to help the animal rights cause. I do have acquaintances at PETA and they are good people - it's the top of the place that stinks.

I've turned my financial support over to our local Humane Society.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Apple Pro Underwear

oh gawd, what the hell are people supposed to eat then?

Vegetables? Fruit?

[Paco500]

Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy

And the Judean People's Front

SPLITTER!

[MacNStein]

Originally Posted by KarlG

So, the question no one's answered yet is; would you hook your dog or cat and drag it around and then cut it open while it's still alive?

Depends on how hungry I am. Maybe some light breading, a little salt and pepper. Yummy.

Besides, we're talking about fish. We've covered this before.

[MacNStein]

Originally Posted by Doofy

Vegetables? Fruit?

Yeah, but those are called side dishes.

[olePigeon]

It depends on our environment. I'm emotionally attached to my cat and wouldn't ever think to kill it. However, if was born in a different country where cats are treated as any other livestock, I'm sure I wouldn't have any problems eating cats.

As it stands, I don't have a problem with eating cows, pigs, chickens, turkeys, etc. PETA is just stupid. No reasonable person would kill cats and dogs in America, just as any reasonable religious Indian would kill a cow. We're products of our environment.

[PacHead]

The lack of meat apparently causes their brain cells to malfunction turning PETA members into clueless little buggers. PETA is like a cult. Perhaps somebody will donate thousands of pairs of NIKE sneakers and some plastic bags to them soon and maybe we can get a repeat of "heaven's gate", just on a larger scale. Innocent puppies and kittens all over the globe will be eternally greatful for this.

[Kr0nos]

Meh, I don't eat meat or fish.

If I feel like dragging a cow, cat, fish or human around on a meathook and cut them open while they're still alive, I'll do so.

Don't feel like it very often though.

[KeriVit]

PETA
People Eating Tasty Animals

[ghporter]

I have to disagree with WDLove; PETA isn't left-leaning or even far left. They're off the map. They seem to believe that non-speaking animals are more important and more worthy than ANY speaking animal; i.e. people. They're hypocritical in almost everything they do, they are (not too quietly) supporting several organizations with terrorist agendas (yes, really!), and they have a habit of doing stunts that don't do anything but get attention-though stunts are all they're really good at.

How about PETA: People Existing To Annoy?

[teknopimp]

[QUOTE=Cody Dawg]I'm all for animal rights and do animal rescue, but PETA's new campaign to frighten little kids is pretty sick: "Your Daddy Kills Animals"

you weren't traumatized by anything like that as a child, were you?

[Cody Dawg]

No.

My grandmother did the killing. Really.

Chickens. On a stump. With an axe.



My grandfather didn't have the heart to do it. After a while they hired a company to come and pick them all up and dress them and freeze them and we just picked them all up - after they were done.