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http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/art...0873_1,00.html
awesome article written by Jeremy Clarkson, this car sounds INSANE!
Make no mistake, 200mph is at the limit of what man can do right now. Which is why the new Bugatti Veyron is worthy of some industrial strength genuflection. Because it can do 252mph. And that’s just mad — 252mph means that in straight and level flight this car is as near as makes no difference as fast as a Hawker Hurricane
Only some £900,000 
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Ha ha:
"In other words, the door mirrors were generating downforce. That gives you an idea of how much of a bastard the air can be at this speed."
Thats one fast car!
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Originally Posted by mduell
So any word on real world speeds? Wind tunnel estimates are cool and all, but...
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[Edit: This post is no longer relevant, as the posts in question have been deleted. Mods can feel free to delete this one, too. ]
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"Yields a falsehood when preceded by its quotation" yields a falsehood when preceded by its quotation.
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Clarkson rocks.
But I'm betting that the Bugatti will handle like poop. The EB110 was fast but fair useless in the handling department. And VW/Audi have never really been any good at designing properly-handling vehicles either (a few notable exceptions include the Lambo models and maybe a couple of early quattros).
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Originally Posted by mduell
Originally Posted by forbes.com
From the original (?) Forbes article: "We accepted top-speed estimates in forming this list, and SSC says the Ultimate Aero's top-speed figure comes from Langley wind-tunnel calculations. "
Yeah. Right. Based on my blow-dryer calculations, I estimate that the top speed of my neighbor's Town Car - provided it has an appropriate engine - could approach the sound barrier.
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Originally Posted by effgee
Yeah. Right. Based on my blow-dryer calculations, I estimate that the top speed of my neighbor's Town Car - provided it has an appropriate engine - could approach the sound barrier.
with or without grandpa towing it with his riding lawnmower?
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Originally Posted by scaught
with or without grandpa towing it with his riding lawnmower?
Grandpa driving and Grandma pushing, of course - no other way to make that happen.
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Top speed is not nearly as impressive a figure to me as acceleration. Practically, top speed is almost meaningless because only in the most contrived circumstances will it ever matter. Good acceleration is much more useful for a sports car than good top speed.
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slightly off topic:
We spent the other day with a client that wanted surveillance cameras installed at his Quiznos restaurants. His wife was surfing the web from her laptop as we drove from one store to the next. She held up the screen so her husband could see a picture of the new BMW M6. He moved a bit closer for a better look and announced, "Damn, that looks just like our 645CSI...what the hell?". "Yeah", his wife replied, "I thought so, too." With a disgusted look he told us, "Last month we placed a deposit on one of those M6's in order to get on the waiting list....supposed to get it in May".
OK, so this 23 year-old couple had deposited untold cash for a $100,000 car - and they had no idea what it looked like.
"Well, the engine looks a lot different. Supposed to have 500 horsepower, I think.", the husband noted, as he clicked through the pictures. His wife added, "yeah, our 645 only has 300 horsepower..damn..500 would probably give me an orgasm ."
My post didn't really have a point - other than to show you the type of folks that buy all the phat-ass cars we mere mortals only drool about.
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Originally Posted by Fyre4ce
Top speed is not nearly as impressive a figure to me as acceleration.
Well then, the Bugatti’s numbers don’t fail to impress in that department either…
0–60 mph: 2.46 sec
0–125 mph: 7.3 sec
That’ll get you anywhere in a hurry.
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Originally Posted by Fyre4ce
Top speed is not nearly as impressive a figure to me as acceleration. ...
I got your acceleration right here:
"... You might point out at this juncture that the McLaren F1 could top 240mph, but at that speed it was pretty much out of control. And anyway it really isn’t in the same league as the Bugatti. In a drag race you could let the McLaren get to 120mph before setting off in the Veyron. And you’d still get to 200mph first. ..."
If that's not fast enough I suggest you call NASA and ask to have your hinie strapped onto one of their vehicles
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Anyone got a 1/4 mile time?
(I'm not saying the other figures aren't impressive - they are. Just looking for a number I'm more accustomed to.)
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Originally Posted by effgee
Yeah. Right. Based on my blow-dryer calculations, I estimate that the top speed of my neighbor's Town Car - provided it has an appropriate engine - could approach the sound barrier.
Right, and Langley doesn't know anything about wind tunnel testing.
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Originally Posted by mduell
Chill dude, I didn't say the Langley guys don't know what they're doing. But methinks there's more to putting a 270mph car on the street than wind tunnel calculations. And if it wasn't clear from the wording of my post that uhm, ... I wasn't being entirely serious then I really don't know what to tell you.
But since we're already talking about that SSC thing - and I'd like to point out here that I am by no means a fan of the Veyron, it's a cool bit of engineering but I happen to think it's also a pretty ugly bit of engineering - we'll see if those claims of 270mph hold up once they managed to put a real-life production model on the street.
As in: a car you can actually drive every now and then over a time period of 2/5/10 years, push it to its limits occasionally, and do all that without the whole shebang disintegrating under your hindquarters in the process. And while the Veyron hasn't proven any of those things either, it's on the market and it has shown that it can fulfill the manufacturer's claims in terms of power and speed.
We'll know for sure once SSC has done the same.
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255mph is faster than my Mercury Sable goes!
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I remember hearing what may well have been an urban legend some years back. I believe it was one of the Darwin Awards contestants. It's rumored a guy bought a black-market JATO Pack on his Chevy Impala, took it out to a long strip of highway in the Arizona desert, and lit that sumbich up. As the legend goes, he was identified via DNA from samples scraped off a canyon wall about 125 feet off the ground. What he failed to realize was that JATO packs are lit and then burn until they're done. No "off" switch.
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Originally Posted by Fyre4ce
Anyone got a 1/4 mile time?
Blink and you'll miss it!
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Originally Posted by rambo47
I remember hearing what may well have been an urban legend some years back. I believe it was one of the Darwin Awards contestants. It's rumored a guy bought a black-market JATO Pack on his Chevy Impala, took it out to a long strip of highway in the Arizona desert, and lit that sumbich up. As the legend goes, he was identified via DNA from samples scraped off a canyon wall about 125 feet off the ground. What he failed to realize was that JATO packs are lit and then burn until they're done. No "off" switch.
Yep, urban legend:
http://www.snopes.com/autos/dream/jato.asp
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I've got a video of it going around a track for a few minutes, in-car. Effortless power it seems. 21MB, got it from supercars.de
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Originally Posted by Fyre4ce
Anyone got a 1/4 mile time?
Since I have no idea about the 1/4 mile, I'm waiting until someone clocks a 'Ring time with it. I'm betting that they won't even dare to bother as it'll be a lot slower than a bunch of existing machines.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Since I have no idea about the 1/4 mile, I'm waiting until someone clocks a 'Ring time with it. I'm betting that they won't even dare to bother as it'll be a lot slower than a bunch of existing machines.
Quite probably - while it apparently doesn't handle like a boat, it's a large and heavy piece of kit. Round the 'Ring it'll probably not be that impressive. Staight line speed, OTOH, sounds like a helluva lot of fun!
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Top Gear next Sunday is a cross-Europe race, Clarkson in the Bugatti, James May and Richard Hammond (the other 2 presenters) piloting an aeroplane. Should be a good one.
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Funny, James May wrote the article on the Bugatti in this month's Top Gear magazine and he wasn't quite as positive as Clarkson about it. He did say that it handles like a motherfluffer - 4 wheel drive and all.
Top Gear Magazine also got the designer of the Mclaren F1 to take a look at it and he was impressed but couldn't resist being a bit negative. He said that the problem with the Veyron and the SLR is that they were designed from an aesthetic perspective first and then told to make the car, whereas the F1 design is all functional. Whatever, it still canes his F1 in every department. Awesome car and great job by VW.
BTW, the Veyron's top speed is limited. They worked out that it would take off at a certain speed and so set a max.
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Top 10 coolest things about the Bugatti Veyron (copied out of January 2006 issue of Motor Trend):
1. A second key is required to program the car into its top "speed" mode.
2. How many other cars are ballsy enough to have a horsepower gauge?
3. The top of the engine is exposed; there's no glass or other cover.
4. It'll score you the best parking place at any restaurant anywhere in the world.
5. The audio system costs $30,000
6. Switch the stability control off, and it'll spin all four wheels in third gear.
7. Going 0-to-250 mph takes less than a minute.
8. At full throttle in seventh gear, the Veyron gets less than three mpg.
9. What looks like a secondary rear spoiler is in fact an air brake.
10. Bugatti Requires a deposite of more than $350,000 just to place an order.
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I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you need to be an existing bugatti owner in order to even buy one too. The EB110 was like that. They wouldn't sell them to rich psychos who would not take care of them, they basically required people to prove that they were real car guys not just retards who'd go out and drive way too fast and kill people with it.
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Anyone have any info on the transmission? AWD is neat for launches, but once you're going 100mph it's going to be doing nothing but causing more parasitic losses in the drivetrain. Does it switch to 2wd at a certain speed?
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Originally Posted by SuvsareRetarded
I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure you need to be an existing bugatti owner in order to even buy one too. The EB110 was like that.
Not that I'm aware of. Last I heard nobody was buying EB110s because once they went wrong you were basically screwed as they didn't make enough spare parts for them. A couple of years after they stopped making them there was still three brand spanking new examples sitting in the window of a Monte Carlo dealership - nobody would touch them with a 10' pole.
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I went ahead and uploaded the whole article for you guys... yeah, I'm really bored.
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[edit] are they too small to read?
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Ouch. That must suck. If I owned an EB110 I guess I wouldn't even drive it, just in case something happened.
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Well the fact that JC got 240mph out of it and ran out of road means that the top speed is likely to be a real one, rather than wind tunnel only.
I read a while ago that one of the biggest problems they had was coming up with a compound for the tyres that was able to cope with the top speed. They compounds they were using kept melting or exploding!
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Originally Posted by MacMan4000
I went ahead and uploaded the whole article for you guys... yeah, I'm really bored.
click a page for full size:
[edit] are they too small to read?
No thats great, thank you very much
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Originally Posted by SuvsareRetarded
Anyone have any info on the transmission? AWD is neat for launches, but once you're going 100mph it's going to be doing nothing but causing more parasitic losses in the drivetrain. Does it switch to 2wd at a certain speed?
Info on the transmission is on page 4 of this
The car has constant 4WD, but borrows Audi Quattro technology to distribute the power to each wheel individually (differential AWD).
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Originally Posted by as2
The car has constant 4WD, but borrows Audi Quattro technology to distribute the power to each wheel individually (differential AWD).
Which is just like subaru AWD which is just like any AWD. The problem is with AWD you have to expend so much energy to spin things around, there's just a lot of friction. If you put they veyron on a mustang AWD dyno, it'd probably put around 700hp to the wheels, maybe evne less. AWD usually saps about 1/3 of the engine's crank output. 
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It's going to be on Top Gear next week. 
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MacMan4000, I think we'll post that top 10 on leftlane news tomorrow. Didn't catch that. Thanks MotorTrend is quite slow to get content online, so I guess for the full story people who aren't lucky enough to read these forums will have to buy the issue 
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Originally Posted by ReggieX
It's going to be on Top Gear next week.
I saw the teaser on Sunday night. Can't wait for next weeks show...Jeremy mentioned something about a race...ACROSS EUROPE!
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Originally Posted by nbnz
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It's going to be on Top Gear next week.
I saw the teaser on Sunday night. Can't wait for next weeks show...Jeremy mentioned something about a race...ACROSS EUROPE!
Originally Posted by ajprice
Top Gear next Sunday is a cross-Europe race, Clarkson in the Bugatti, James May and Richard Hammond (the other 2 presenters) piloting an aeroplane. Should be a good one.
Damn, I must have that invisiblility cloak on again!
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Originally Posted by ajprice
Damn, I must have that invisiblility cloak on again!
Nah, I just didn't read the thread til after I watched Sunday's show
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