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macintologist · 01:08 AM

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You've obviously never used a Mac. It does more and works more intuitively that you think. And you can still use 3rd party mice on it if you really need those extra buttons.

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I use them on a daily basis, and I know you can use 3rd party mice on it via USB. But I don't carry a two button mouse with me to campus , nor anywhere . Nothing beats the spinning wheel of death when OSX won't load. Granted, we fix more PC's on campuses than Mac's, but Mac's still come in with various hardware problems.

Biggest Problem w/ Hardcore Mac users = superiority complex. (Just the hardcore ones who sleep with Steve Jobs)

If you've ever worked at all in the IT field, you definately know how irate Mac users get when you insult Steve Job's holy grail of rotten apples. I'm not saying Mac's are crappy machines, but they aren't the most flexible machines around. If I can't build one from scratch and have to pay a middleman to make it (aka Apple), it isn't flexible. End of Story.

Cost/Benefit Analysis: If all you want to do is look at the exterior of a computer and note how pretty it is. Or if spending lots of money in your mind just justifies a good product (aka Bose) By all means, buy a Mac.

I'll stick with my PC running linux at a cheaper more effective cost per benefit ratio.

Is this guy talking out of his ass or what?

(I got a lot of PM's asking for me to post the link, well it's down below but I'll put it here too: http://forum.protestwarrior.com/view...13385#10213385)

Ghoser777 · Dec 6, 2005, 10:06 PM

To each his own.

JoshuaZ · Dec 6, 2005, 10:07 PM

MacNN Warriors to ARMS!

macintologist · Dec 6, 2005, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

MacNN Warriors to ARMS!

GO RIGHT AHEAD

JoshuaZ · Dec 6, 2005, 10:10 PM

I`m lazy. I was thinking someone else would have a lot of free time and do it.

Yeah, just lazy.

rickey939 · Dec 6, 2005, 10:12 PM

Tar & Feather.

BlueSky · Dec 6, 2005, 10:13 PM

I say we sic Jesus on him.

rickey939 · Dec 6, 2005, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by BlueSky

I say we sic Jesus on him.

The white or black version?

Kevin · Dec 6, 2005, 10:15 PM

I say we get together as a forum and kill him.

Oneota · Dec 6, 2005, 10:18 PM

Or, ignore it.

Yeah, I'm gonna go with that option.

Kevin · Dec 6, 2005, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by Oneota

Or, ignore it.

Yeah, I'm gonna go with that option.

Sissy.

JoshuaZ · Dec 6, 2005, 10:21 PM

I like the black jesus answer. Can you imagion the results?

Tesseract · Dec 6, 2005, 10:27 PM

Was his name James?

hickey · Dec 6, 2005, 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I say we get together as a forum and kill him.

I brought my bat with nails to school when I came home from thanksgiving. And I had mine long before people saw the one in Saw 2

JoshuaZ · Dec 6, 2005, 10:30 PM

Mmm.... Saw 2.....

But What Would Black Jesus Do?

Bust a cap in his ass, and pitty the fool.

iLikebeer · Dec 6, 2005, 10:38 PM

I guess someone had to take up the slack after Salty got his blog.
And the ant thread got deleted?!

JoshuaZ · Dec 6, 2005, 10:41 PM

The poor ant thread. I really hated it.

And good for Salty.

Ozmodiar · 10:48 PM

I think he's just mad because no one ever taught him how to use an apostrophe.

JoshuaZ · Dec 6, 2005, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Ozmodiar

I think he's just made because no one ever taught him how to use an apostrophe.

Wow. Low blow. But a very fair one. Sadly few people online remember their high school english classes.

Ozmodiar · Dec 6, 2005, 10:47 PM

And no one taught me how to proofread, apparently.

Miniryu · Dec 6, 2005, 10:50 PM

Uhh... is it just me or did this supposed "anti-Mac" guy say nothing offensive and nothing false?

I mean, I can see how he finds us Mac users to have a superiority complex- its because we're always talking about how great the Mac is because people have ATTACKED US for years. Not to mention the implied feeling of rejection we suffered in the past when a cool new software product came out but no one cared enough about us to make an Apple version.
And a lot of us do hero-worship Steve (although he has done a lot for us, he's stil not infallible). Cost benefit analysis? If you have a certain job to do and you need to get it done cheaply, you will probably be more successful hacking together a Linux box. If you are like me and tired of living like a starving college student or feeling like you are in poverty and would like a comfortable enjoyable user experience, you are more than willing to throw in a few extra bucks for a well earned luxury.

My only argument with him is that he claims Macs are only special because of their exterior. Whatever :rolleyes

But he does have a good point: if someone insults an Apple, we gather and crucify. And I bet the white Jesus is far more brutal with his buzz cuz, millitary boots, tats and hunting knife and rifle.

itistoday · Dec 6, 2005, 11:09 PM

You guys do realize how incredibly ridiculous the title of this thread is...

loki74 · Dec 6, 2005, 11:10 PM

I found him to be much less annoying than James, although equally ignorant.

Whats up with that bullcrap about "oh well you're not in the TV industry and neither am I so you cant say that Firewire and Macs are popular in the TV industry." I mean, if its a fact, its a fact. Macs do indeed dominate the TV industry last I checked, and FireWire is the standard for digital video capture is it not?

Whatever. These people act like they know sh!t but they don't. They can just tell themselves that their PC is just as good as a Mac and that Macs "only look good nothing else" if it helps them sleep at night. But at the end of the day, their experiences don't matter to me one bit. Only mine do--and in my experience, Macs are superior in almost every way.

loki74 · Dec 6, 2005, 11:13 PM

DP
"Too short"... whatever

JoshuaZ · Dec 6, 2005, 11:14 PM

Most of the time PC users don`t know how much work they put into just USING their computer until they use a Mac. Thats the easiest way to change minds, show themthe light.

JoshuaZ · Dec 6, 2005, 11:15 PM

Most of the time PC users don`t know how much work they put into just USING their computer until they use a Mac. Thats the easiest way to change minds, show themthe light.

JoshuaZ · Dec 6, 2005, 11:15 PM

Most of the time PC users don`t know how much work they put into just USING their computer until they use a Mac. Thats the easiest way to change minds, show themthe light.

loki74 · Dec 6, 2005, 11:17 PM

I found him to be much less annoying than James, although equally ignorant.

Whats up with that bullcrap about "oh well you're not in the TV industry and neither am I so you cant say that Firewire and Macs are popular in the TV industry." I mean, if its a fact, its a fact. Macs do indeed dominate the TV industry last I checked, and FireWire is the standard for digital video capture is it not?

Whatever. These people act like they know sh!t but they don't. They can just tell themselves that their PC is just as good as a Mac and that Macs "only look good nothing else" if it helps them sleep at night. But at the end of the day, their experiences don't matter to me one bit. Only mine do--and in my experience, Macs are superior in almost every way.

mduell · Dec 6, 2005, 11:21 PM

You're proving his point.

BasketofPuppies · Dec 6, 2005, 11:27 PM

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

Most of the time PC users don`t know how much work they put into just USING their computer until they use a Mac. Thats the easiest way to change minds, show themthe light.

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

Most of the time PC users don`t know how much work they put into just USING their computer until they use a Mac. Thats the easiest way to change minds, show themthe light.

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

Most of the time PC users don`t know how much work they put into just USING their computer until they use a Mac. Thats the easiest way to change minds, show themthe light.

Tog is dead. Steve killed him.

BasketofPuppies · Dec 6, 2005, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

Most of the time PC users don`t know how much work they put into just USING their computer until they use a Mac. Thats the easiest way to change minds, show themthe light.

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

Most of the time PC users don`t know how much work they put into just USING their computer until they use a Mac. Thats the easiest way to change minds, show themthe light.

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

Most of the time PC users don`t know how much work they put into just USING their computer until they use a Mac. Thats the easiest way to change minds, show themthe light.

Tog is dead. Steve killed him.

BasketofPuppies · Dec 6, 2005, 11:28 PM

That was ironic.

Or karma. You decide.

MaxPower2k3 · Dec 6, 2005, 11:36 PM

Originally Posted by loki74

Whats up with that bullcrap about "oh well you're not in the TV industry and neither am I so you cant say that Firewire and Macs are popular in the TV industry." I mean, if its a fact, its a fact. Macs do indeed dominate the TV industry last I checked, and FireWire is the standard for digital video capture is it not?

Not really, actually. FireWire doesn't have the bandwidth to be used for broadcast work, in most cases, although as compression gets better I think it's getting more common. Currently digital video is generally uncompressed or only slightly compressed and transmitted via SDI (or HD-SDI for high def)

Tomchu · Dec 6, 2005, 11:40 PM

You know, he's not really insulting Macs ... he's just saying that they're not perfect, which is perfectly reasonable. I may love my iBook and Mac Mini, but I'm not going to lie and say that Macs are the best machines around and that PCs are ****, nor am I going to try converting everyone I come into contact with.

He's right about PCs being more flexible than Macs -- that's just the hard truth. Both types of computers have their uses. I own both, and I enjoy using both of them. The superiority complex of *any* hardcore computer clique pisses me off.

Now ... elitist Linux zealots ... hooooly. Now there's something you shouldn't get me started about.

Rolling Bones · Dec 6, 2005, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by Tomchu

You know, he's not really insulting Macs ... he's just saying that they're not perfect, which is perfectly reasonable. I may love my iBook and Mac Mini, but I'm not going to lie and say that Macs are the best machines around and that PCs are ****, nor am I going to try converting everyone I come into contact with.

He's right about PCs being more flexible than Macs -- that's just the hard truth. Both types of computers have their uses. I own both, and I enjoy using both of them. The superiority complex of *any* hardcore computer clique pisses me off.

Now ... elitist Linux zealots ... hooooly. Now there's something you shouldn't get me started about.

You only posted once. This is a double and triple post thread.

OK...I lose too.

TheoCryst · Dec 7, 2005, 01:08 AM

Originally Posted by mduell

You're proving his point.

Amen.

JoshuaZ · Dec 7, 2005, 03:08 AM

Ewwwww Linux....

Also, that triple post was thanks to a bad Windows computer. Me not fixing it is due to apathy.

nredman · Dec 7, 2005, 04:52 AM

we get to sleep with steve jobs? i didnt read that in my tiger manual

Love Calm Quiet · Dec 7, 2005, 05:54 AM

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

Wow. Low blow. But a very fair one. Sadly few people online remember their high school english classes.

Someone took English?

Kevin · Dec 7, 2005, 06:11 AM

If you guys REALLY want a laugh.

http://ihateapple.net/forums/list.aspx?forumid=2

macintologist · Dec 7, 2005, 10:48 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

If you guys REALLY want a laugh.

http://ihateapple.net/forums/list.aspx?forumid=2

There's only one thread there about macs. Lawl

Kevin · Dec 7, 2005, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by macintologist

There's only one thread there about macs. Lawl

It must be harder and harder for them to come up with Mac bashing material lately.

They will gladly accept Mac users into their forums. Unless you consistently prove certain members wrong about certain things, then they will ban you for reasons like "pissing people off without breaking rules"

The guy who codes that aweful forum russ, has a big hardon for MS. He life and job revolves around MS.

So when anything bad about MS is brought up, he gets defensive.

Some of them remind me a bit of our James fellow.

Of course there was that time I saw where one member was bragging about paying young asian women for sex overseas in another forum... .

Touchy subject over there.

analogika · Dec 7, 2005, 11:11 AM

From reading the thread title, I was expecting a poignant and cynical exposure of so many Mac users' tendency to get up in arms about uncouth assertions of nameless fools on irrelevant discussion boards, when they dare speak untruth (perceived or otherwise) about the Cult of Mac.

That expectation has been so sadly and violently fulfilled...congratulations.

Miniryu · Dec 7, 2005, 11:55 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

From reading the thread title, I was expecting a poignant and cynical exposure of so many Mac users' tendency to get up in arms about uncouth assertions of nameless fools on irrelevant discussion boards, when they dare speak untruth (perceived or otherwise) about the Cult of Mac.

That expectation has been so sadly and violently fulfilled...congratulations.

So eloquently put. You should be a professional forum poster

Miniryu · Dec 7, 2005, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

From reading the thread title, I was expecting a poignant and cynical exposure of so many Mac users' tendency to get up in arms about uncouth assertions of nameless fools on irrelevant discussion boards, when they dare speak untruth (perceived or otherwise) about the Cult of Mac.

That expectation has been so sadly and violently fulfilled...congratulations.

So eloquently put. You should be a professional forum poster.

Miniryu · Dec 7, 2005, 11:59 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

From reading the thread title, I was expecting a poignant and cynical exposure of so many Mac users' tendency to get up in arms about uncouth assertions of nameless fools on irrelevant discussion boards, when they dare speak untruth (perceived or otherwise) about the Cult of Mac.

That expectation has been so sadly and violently fulfilled..congratulations.

So eloquently put. You should be a professional forum poster.

Kevin · Dec 7, 2005, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

From reading the thread title, I was expecting a poignant and cynical exposure of so many Mac users' tendency to get up in arms about uncouth assertions of nameless fools on irrelevant discussion boards, when they dare speak untruth (perceived or otherwise) about the Cult of Mac.

That expectation has been so sadly and violently fulfilled...congratulations.

Depends on your intentions.

I used to go to ihateapple.com just to make fun of them.

When the iMac came out we'd post how it was faster than ANY pc EVER! Even though we knew it wasn't true. It would just rile them up.

::maroma:: · Dec 7, 2005, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Depends on your intentions.

I used to go to ihateapple.com just to make fun of them.

When the iMac came out we'd post how it was faster than ANY pc EVER! Even though we knew it wasn't true. It would just rile them up.

Wait you would go on a message board and post for no other reason than to get under people's skins? No way! I just can't believe it! That is so unlike you.

Kevin · Dec 7, 2005, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by ::maroma::

Wait you would go on a message board and post for no other reason than to get under people's skins? No way! I just can't believe it! That is so unlike you.

Actually we (it was a joint effort) was posting it as a JOKE. It just so happened they took it seriously.

And it IS a hate site you know.

I've never been rediculoud for going on KKK forums making fun of them

demograph68 · Dec 7, 2005, 02:49 PM

He's basically right. Building a PC is more flexible and cheaper than getting a mac.