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http://www.history.navy.mil/faqs/faq57-4.htm
http://www.medalofhonor.com/PearlHar...nts.htm#Miller
http://www.dorismiller.com/
"Doris "Dorie" Miller, USN Sailor, Pearl Harbor Hero: "Doris Miller, known as 'Dorie' to shipmates and friends, was born in Waco, Texas, on 12 October 1919, to Henrietta and Conery Miller.
Following training at the Naval Training Station, Norfolk, Virginia, Miller was assigned to the ammunition ship USS Pyro (AE-1) where he served as a Mess Attendant, and on 2 January 1940 was transferred to USS West Virginia (BB-48), where he became the ship's heavyweight boxing champion. In July of that year he had temporary duty aboard USS Nevada (BB-36) at Secondary Battery Gunnery School. He returned to West Virginia and on 3 August, and was serving in that battleship when the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941.
Miller had arisen at 6 a.m., and was collecting laundry when the alarm for general quarters sounded. He headed for his battle station, the antiaircraft battery magazine amidship, only to discover that torpedo damage had wrecked it, so he went on deck. Because of his physical prowess, he was assigned to carry wounded fellow Sailors to places of greater safety. Then an officer ordered him to the bridge to aid the mortally wounded Captain of the ship. He subsequently manned a 50 caliber Browning anti-aircraft machine gun until he ran out of ammunition and was ordered to abandon ship."
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That's where there's thunder... and the wind shouts back.
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He's a hero for living with the name Doris to begin with. But yes, I'll thirdify that.
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This is a great day to remember. Franklin Roosevelt said it well, "A day that will live in infamy." I appreciate his service to our country. thank you Doris "Dorie" Miller.
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while i'd like to remember this guy, i would not like to remember either snow dogs or boat trip.
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Great thread - I have to admit I didn't even think of Pearl Harbor today until I saw that. Why isn't December 7 a national holiday?
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
Great thread - I have to admit I didn't even think of Pearl Harbor today until I saw that. Why isn't December 7 a national holiday?
It wouldn't be good to celebrate every military victory or war related event the country has. We have memorial day and veterans day for that I believe; as a general appreciation of our troops. It would also be obnoxious to have to close schools for 20 different war related historical incidents, and it would bring back bad memories and hatred. Two holidays is enough.
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Originally Posted by itistoday
It wouldn't be good to celebrate every military victory or war related event the country has. We have memorial day and veterans day for that I believe; as a general appreciation of our troops. It would also be obnoxious to have to close schools for 20 different war related historical incidents, and it would bring back bad memories and hatred. Two holidays is enough.
I understand what you're saying, but far too few people remember the day. Perhaps we should move one of the less meaningful federal holidays and combine it with Pearl Harbor Day so that people would be compelled to acknowledge it to some degree.
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
I understand what you're saying, but far too few people remember the day. Perhaps we should move one of the less meaningful federal holidays and combine it with Pearl Harbor Day so that people would be compelled to acknowledge it to some degree.
Or improve education across the country so that children learn a better appreciation of history? Why acknowledge one day when you can acknowledge several hundred years of thoughtless destruction (like the bombing of Dresden; where the Japanese were the Americans, and the Americans the Germans)?
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Ah, Pearl Harbor. A movie which will live in infamy.
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Dorie Rocks and all else who gave their lives and sacrificed so much for us....
PEARL HARBOR DEC. 7TH - INFAMY.
NO MOVIE NECESSARY.
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I think what's different about today is that up until Dec 7th, America was trying to stay OUT of world war 2. We were attacked, premptively, by the japanese. That doens't happen very often at all.... and.... yeah. It was sensational enough to piss off THE ENTIRE NATION.
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I think what's different about today is that up until Dec 7th, America was trying to stay OUT of world war 2. We were attacked, premptively, by the japanese. That doens't happen very often at all.... and.... yeah. It was sensational enough to piss off THE ENTIRE NATION.
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I think what's different about today is that up until Dec 7th, America was trying to stay OUT of world war 2. We were attacked, premptively, by the japanese. That doens't happen very often at all.... and.... yeah. It was sensational enough to piss off THE ENTIRE NATION.
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Originally Posted by SuvsareRetarded
I think what's different about today is that up until Dec 7th, America was trying to stay OUT of world war 2. We were attacked, premptively, by the japanese. That doens't happen very often at all.... and.... yeah. It was sensational enough to piss off THE ENTIRE NATION.
Pretty much the same as today.
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Originally Posted by SuvsareRetarded
I think what's different about today is that up until Dec 7th, America was trying to stay OUT of world war 2. We were attacked, premptively, by the japanese. That doens't happen very often at all.... and.... yeah. It was sensational enough to piss off THE ENTIRE NATION.
Depends on how your look at it.....
FDR was looking for a way to get us into the war. We were sending guns and ammo to the English, along with personnel. We also happened to line up all of our ships in harbor... just letting them sit there... and made a nice target... And lets not even get into the help we were giving the Chinese nationalists.
Oh, and what would tick off an island nation more then stopping all shipments of oil to a nation that has no other sources? Hmmmm?
Theres a lot of speculation, even to the point where there is good evidence to suggest that FDR knew about a Japanese attack, and was just waiting for something to bring us into the war. The US has done it before. (Remember that war we had with Mexico... the one where we took half the country? Pres. Polk knew exactly what he was doing with the US forces in Texas)
Anyways...
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Theres a lot of speculation, even to the point where there is good evidence to suggest that FDR knew about a Japanese attack, and was just waiting for something to bring us into the war.
Evidence, smevidence. Check out the books by Goldstein and Gordon Prange. No way that FDR expected an attack, no way.
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A salute to all those who serve our county, then and now.
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Originally Posted by medicineman
A salute to all those who serve our county, then and now.
Yes, we definitely need to show them our gratitude. It is an honor and privilege.
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Originally Posted by medicineman
A salute to all those who serve our county, then and now.
If by serve you mean are in the service... maybe. If by serve you mean the crusty old white men who order everyone else around and get us involved in wars and conflicts we don't really need to be in... then no.
But generally yes to everyone else. 
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Originally Posted by SuvsareRetarded
If by serve you mean are in the service... maybe. If by serve you mean the crusty old white men who order everyone else around and get us involved in wars and conflicts we don't really need to be in... then no.
But generally yes to everyone else.
This thread is about our service men. I salute them. They were not born old or crusty. They were all young and vital. And they were of all colors. Some have paid the ultimate price and with that have earned our eternal gratitude.
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Ah. Service men. Yes. Buearocrats: No.
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How about Ben Affleck flying his P-40 Kittyhawk in Pearl Harbor?
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