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Cody Dawg · Dec 8, 2005, 08:37 AM

Santa swings from a tree.

No, not the Santa that pulls his pants down in the mall.

A large blindfolded Santa hanging from a noose from a high tree in a man's yard has angered homeowners in a Florida neighborhood, according to a Local 6 News report.

The Santa doll, which neighborhood children can easily see, was put up by homeowner Ron Stroia at his home located on 555 West 50th Street in Miami Beach, the report said.

"It's just wrong, I mean who would want their children to see this, and it reminds adults of lynching," neighbor Estelle Farnsworth said. "It's just nasty, there is no spirit of Christmas in this."

The Santa also has his hands and legs bound by some type of wire.

"Now the kids are sad with that, you know, because they say it's not fair with Santa," neighbor Tanira Giacian said. "Santa should be around bringing their gifts, looking for the gifts, and not hanging on a tree. They're just kind of scared of that."

Since the display was put in the tree, neighbors have called police to get it removed, but officers said there is nothing they can do because the homeowner is protected under the First Amendment, Local 6 News reported.

Stroia would not talk with reporters, but did say by telephone that it's his right to display the Santa whether neighbors like it or not.

"This has really caused a big stir in the neighborhood, this is just cruel," Farnsworth said.

rickey939 · Dec 8, 2005, 08:41 AM

I'm all hung up over this.

Cody Dawg · Dec 8, 2005, 08:52 AM

One part of me thinks this is amusing.

One part of me thinks that the guy is an artist and he's venting about how Christmas is being ruined by the leftists who seek to destroy all that is American and religious.

One part of me think that the guy is just a sick bastard.

Hmmmm...

analogika · Dec 8, 2005, 09:13 AM

Do you think anybody would have given a **** if it had been there on Hallowe'en?

Why now?

teknopimp · Dec 8, 2005, 09:15 AM

is that a black santa?

turtle777 · Dec 8, 2005, 09:15 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

Do you think anybody would have given a **** if it had been there on Hallowe'en?

Why now

Blog delay !

-t

driven · Dec 8, 2005, 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

Do you think anybody would have given a **** if it had been there on Hallowe'en?

Yes ... I think they would care.

NYCFarmboy · Dec 8, 2005, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

One part of me thinks this is amusing.

One part of me thinks that the guy is an artist and he's venting about how Christmas is being ruined by the leftists who seek to destroy all that is American and religious.

One part of me think that the guy is just a sick bastard.

Hmmmm...

agreed

Kevin · Dec 8, 2005, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

One part of me thinks this is amusing.

One part of me thinks that the guy is an artist and he's venting about how Christmas is being ruined by the leftists who seek to destroy all that is American and religious.

One part of me think that the guy is just a sick bastard.

Hmmmm...

Seconded.

MindFad · Dec 8, 2005, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

One part of me thinks that the guy is an artist and he's venting about how Christmas is being ruined by the leftists who seek to destroy all that is American and religious.

THAT IS EXACTLY IT I AGREE

Cody Dawg · Dec 8, 2005, 09:54 AM

Hi MindFad!

How the heck have you been?

We miss your MindWaves around here!

invisibleX · Dec 8, 2005, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

One part of me thinks this is amusing.

One part of me thinks that the guy is an artist and he's venting about how Christmas is being ruined by the leftists who seek to destroy all that is American and religious.

One part of me think that the guy is just a sick bastard.

Hmmmm...

You must have missed: "Because its a made-up holiday that forces us to run out and blow our money and gorge ourselves, all to the delight of retailers."

Of course it could just be another leftist bastard/grinch trying to steal christmas from the poor downtrodden right/whos.

Kodachrome · Dec 8, 2005, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by invisibleX

You must have missed: "Because its a made-up holiday that forces us to run out and blow our money and gorge ourselves, all to the delight of retailers."

Of course it could just be another leftist bastard/grinch trying to steal christmas from the poor downtrodden right/whos.

invisibleX
Elite Member

Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: 7th Circle of hell

judging from your location we could have guessed as much.

Cody Dawg · Dec 8, 2005, 10:18 AM

MindFad · Dec 8, 2005, 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

How the heck have you been?

I've been fantabulous! Out boozin' and talkin' on the ol' cellphone with high-profile execs who acknowledge my existence. But that's about all. AND YOU?

rickey939 · Dec 8, 2005, 10:31 AM

He is indeed hanged...but is he hung?

wdlove · Dec 8, 2005, 10:35 AM

Hi Cody,

It's wonderful to see you again. It's important that we stand fast against the left.

turtle777 · Dec 8, 2005, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by wdlove

Hi Cody,

It's wonderful to see you again. It's important that we stand fast against the left.

Mwahahahahaha

-t

analogika · Dec 8, 2005, 10:47 AM

Wait - Santa Claus as the Christmas guy was an invention made by Coca-Cola in the 1950s. (St. Nick had nothing to do with Christmas.)

Now, hanging Santa from a tree is somehow anti-CHRISTIAN sentiment?

If anything, it should be the Christians rallying against the commercialization of their Lord's holiest festival, as epitomized by Santa Claus.

I applaud whoever hanged that Santa for standing fast against the enemies of the Lord.

**** you guys, I'm going home.

turtle777 · Dec 8, 2005, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

I applaud whoever hanged that Santa for standing fast against the enemies of the Lord.

Word.

-t

Cody Dawg · Dec 8, 2005, 11:04 AM

**** you guys, I'm going home.

As turtle777 said, "Word."

Hi WDLove!

I got my HUGE assignment out last night...FINALLY.

Whew!

Talk to you later!

BlueSky · Dec 8, 2005, 11:51 AM

A lot of the flack from this unfortunate display lands on the shoulders of the innocent children. They haven't been properly taught what death is, and that's the parent's fault.

How do you explain what death is to your children? Kill one, then grab the other and go, "See?"

A lot of needless confusion can be avoided in this way.

demograph68 · Dec 8, 2005, 04:39 PM

Santa isn't real.

Kevin · Dec 8, 2005, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

Wait - Santa Claus as the Christmas guy was an invention made by Coca-Cola in the 1950s. (St. Nick had nothing to do with Christmas.)

Been debunked.
according to tooki

Originally Posted by tooki

The red-and-white Santa Claus being a Coke thing is urban legend that has been widely disproved. Saint Nick being robed in red and white goes back long before Coke.

tooki

turtle777 · Dec 8, 2005, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Been debunked.

But his main point was: WTF does Santa has to do with a *Christian* Christmas ?

-t

Albert Pujols · Dec 8, 2005, 04:50 PM

this thread made me happy.

Kevin · Dec 8, 2005, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

But his main point was: WTF does Santa has to do with a *Christian* Christmas ?

-t

St Nick = Catholic St..

Not that she said anything about CHRISTIAN. His rant was anti-Christmas in general.

analogika · Dec 8, 2005, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Been debunked.
according to tooki

ah, indeed, correct:

http://www.snopes.com/cokelore/santa.asp

Originally Posted by Kevin

His rant was anti-Christmas in general.

Mine?

no.

turtle777 · Dec 8, 2005, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

St Nick = Catholic St..

Not that she said anything about CHRISTIAN. His rant was anti-Christmas in general.

Well, the Anti-Christian sort of developed between the lines.

"It's just nasty, there is no spirit of Christmas in this."

Originally Posted by Cody Blog

One part of me thinks that the guy is an artist and he's venting about how Christmas is being ruined by the leftists who seek to destroy all that is American and religious.

He is right with his comment:

Originally Posted by analogika

Now, hanging Santa from a tree is somehow anti-CHRISTIAN sentiment?

-t

Kevin · Dec 8, 2005, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by analogika

Mine?

no.

No, no not yours. I was speaking about what Cody was referring to.

BTW here is a cool page

http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=23

Originally Posted by analogika

Mine?

no.

No, no not yours. I was speaking about what Cody was referring to.

BTW here is a cool page

http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=23

Widely celebrated in Europe, St. Nicholas' feast day, December 6th, kept alive the stories of his goodness and generosity. In Germany and Poland, boys dressed as bishops begged alms for the poor—and sometimes for themselves! In the Netherlands and Belgium, St. Nicholas arrived on a steamship from Spain to ride a white horse on his gift-giving rounds. December 6th is still the main day for gift giving and merrymaking in much of Europe. For example, in the Netherlands St. Nicholas' Day is celebrated with the sharing of candies (thrown in the door), chocolate initial letters, small gifts, and riddles. Dutch children leave carrots and hay in their shoes for the horse, hoping St. Nicholas will exchange them for small gifts. Simple gift-giving in early Advent helps preserve a Christmas Day focus on the Christ Child.

analogika · Dec 8, 2005, 05:01 PM

Ah, okay.

Millennium · Dec 8, 2005, 05:01 PM

At least he wasn't crucified.

goMac · Dec 8, 2005, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

One part of me thinks that the guy is an artist and he's venting about how Christmas is being ruined by the leftists who seek to destroy all that is American and religious.

Well thats a stretch.

Part of me suspects this guy is a leftist.

Kevin · Dec 8, 2005, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

He is right with his comment:

I have no idea what his intentions of that was.

But hanging a replica of a well known Christian from a tree and being anti-Christian isn't too far of a throw.

demograph68 · Dec 8, 2005, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by Millennium

At least he wasn't crucified.

Santa died for our sins you heathen!

Kevin · Dec 8, 2005, 05:10 PM

Gerbilinized!

t6hawk · Dec 8, 2005, 09:19 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Santa swings from a tree.

No, not the Santa that pulls his pants down in the mall.

"It's just nasty, there is no spirit of Christmas in this."

She's got that right. Santa has NOTHING to do with Christmas. Christmas is about the birth of Jesus and not some fat guy in a red suit created by Coca Cola in the 1930's to sell more Coke.

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

One part of me thinks that the guy is an artist and he's venting about how Christmas is being ruined by the leftists who seek to destroy all that is American and religious.

Santa is destroying the religious aspect of Christmas. Ask any kid these days what Christmas is and all you'll hear is "PRESENTS!!!" Very few if any will make any mention of the religious aspect of it. I'm still surprised that churches haven't spoken out against Santa since Santa is just a massive scam and is destroying the real meaning of Christmas.

I do think he was trying to make a point about how capitalist Christmas has become. I personally hate the commercialized Christmas and just spend time with friends and family and gifts are optional and are usually quite small. Hell most of the gifts from stores now that are sold, rarely benefit local producers as most products are imported from overseas. I feel a better use of money for gifts would be to donate it to some charity (like the local childrens hospital for example).

Kevin · Dec 8, 2005, 09:21 PM

Originally Posted by t6hawk

[I]She's got that right. Santa has NOTHING to do with Christmas. Christmas is about the birth of Jesus and not some fat guy in a red suit created by Coca Cola in the 1930's to sell more Coke.

You really should read the thread before posting.

analogika · Dec 9, 2005, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

You really should read the thread before posting.

Laugh all you want, apart from the bit about Coca-Cola, the post is spot-on.

demograph68 · Dec 9, 2005, 02:00 AM

When was Jesus born anyway?

Jim Paradise · Dec 9, 2005, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

Do you think anybody would have given a **** if it had been there on Hallowe'en?

Why now?

I think it would've been even more amusing had it been on Halloween.

Railroader · Dec 9, 2005, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by t6hawk

"It's just nasty, there is no spirit of Christmas in this."

She's got that right. Santa has NOTHING to do with Christmas. Christmas is about the birth of Jesus and not some fat guy in a red suit created by Coca Cola in the 1930's to sell more Coke.

Read the thread.
From the begining.
Before you post again.

Originally Posted by t6hawk

Santa is destroying the religious aspect of Christmas. Ask any kid these days what Christmas is and all you'll hear is "PRESENTS!!!" Very few if any will make any mention of the religious aspect of it.

Ask my daughter.

ME:Why do we celebrate Christmas?
HER:It's Jesus' birthday
ME:Why do we celebrate Jesus' birthday?
HER:Because he loves us.

She's two.

Originally Posted by t6hawk

I'm still surprised that churches haven't spoken out against Santa since Santa is just a massive scam and is destroying the real meaning of Christmas.

Either you're going to the wrong churches or haven't ever been to church.

Railroader · Dec 9, 2005, 03:27 AM

arg

analogika · Dec 9, 2005, 03:41 AM

Originally Posted by demograph68

When was Jesus born anyway?

About 7 B.C., in summer.

ism · Dec 9, 2005, 04:26 AM

Originally Posted by Railroader

Ask my daughter.

ME:Why do we celebrate Christmas?
HER:It's Jesus' birthday
ME:Why do we celebrate Jesus' birthday?
HER:Because he loves us.

Same here. She's 4 though. I'm not religious, but she might as well know why we (loose term) celebrate Christmas. Last year she wanted to get Jesus a cake or present (can't remember) because it was his birthday.

Kevin · 07:17 AM

HAMPSTERNATED

Kevin · Dec 9, 2005, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

Laugh all you want, apart from the bit about Coca-Cola, the post is spot-on.

[repeated]
BTW here is a cool page

http://www.stnicholascenter.org/Brix?pageID=23

Widely celebrated in Europe, St. Nicholas' feast day, December 6th, kept alive the stories of his goodness and generosity. In Germany and Poland, boys dressed as bishops begged alms for the poor—and sometimes for themselves! In the Netherlands and Belgium, St. Nicholas arrived on a steamship from Spain to ride a white horse on his gift-giving rounds. December 6th is still the main day for gift giving and merrymaking in much of Europe. For example, in the Netherlands St. Nicholas' Day is celebrated with the sharing of candies (thrown in the door), chocolate initial letters, small gifts, and riddles. Dutch children leave carrots and hay in their shoes for the horse, hoping St. Nicholas will exchange them for small gifts. Simple gift-giving in early Advent helps preserve a Christmas Day focus on the Christ Child. [/repeated]

ShotgunEd · Dec 9, 2005, 06:31 AM

Santa is hung.

Now there's a Cody Dawg thread I'd read.

Jellytussle · Dec 9, 2005, 07:27 AM

Originally Posted by ShotgunEd

Santa is hung.

Now there's a Cody Dawg thread I'd read.

He only comes once a year, but when he does, he fills her stockings.

Kevin · Dec 9, 2005, 07:37 AM

Originally Posted by Jellytussle

He only comes once a year, but when he does, he stuffs her stocking.

Fixed.