[Kerrigan]

Scotland

Pros: Home of David Hume, Robert Louis Stephenson, Walter Scott, King James VI, Tony Blair, Charles Kennedy, Gordon Brown, and many more.

Cons: Is a dump.

Ireland

Pros: Home of Bob Geldoff

Cons: They're Catholic, created the world's first terrorist organisation, a lot of hideous moustached women, and it is also a dump.

[nredman]

Ireland



lucky charms are from there right?

[Eriamjh]

Is this a trick question?

[rickey939]

The answer lies within the above image.

[IceEnclosure]

Ireland makes the best pubs. They shipped some over here and I love them.

[Ghoser777]

I go with scottish - do the irish have their own tape? I think not!

[Rev-O]

Scottish make better whiskey. That decides it for me.

[rambo47]

Scotland won their freedom from English tyrany a long time ago. Ireland is just getting around to giving it a try now. I stand with William Wallace.

[Gator Lager]

Scotty say's

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by rambo47

Scotland won their freedom from English tyrany a long time ago.

Uh oh. Looks like someone's been getting their history from Hollywood.

[Railroader]

Ignorance knows no bounds.

[goMac]

My girlfriend is Irish, hence I'm obligated to go with that.

[paul w]

Back when I was pretending to be a teacher of English some student asked me what the difference was between Scottish and Scotch.

I had a brainfart, so I bluffed and said there was no difference at all.

[moonmonkey]

Nobel Prize count to date:

Britain = 85 (don't have a breakdown within Britain, but I doubt wales got very many)
Ireland = 5

[Oisín]

Uimhir a haon: Poblacht na hÉireann.

[Peter]

Ireland gave us U2 though! U2! U2!!

[Cubeoid]

Wales!

[Seb G]

Scotland invented deep-fried pizza and deep-fried Mars bar. Decision made.

[Cubeoid]

Originally Posted by Seb G

Scotland invented deep-fried pizza and deep-fried Mars bar. Decision made.

Don't forget Haggis...

mmmm...love that Haggis!

[Doofy]

We wouldn't be having this conversation if an Englishman hadn't have invented the WWW.

[Cubeoid]

Didn't Al Gore invent the Internet?

[macaddict0001]

My ideology states that people are equal regardless of race or nationality.

[Kerrigan]

Your ideology is a bit idealistic

[asdasd]

Britain = 85 (don't have a breakdown within Britain, but I doubt wales got very many)
Ireland = 5

which is about proportional. Neither country is a "dump", both have spectacular coastlines, pretty villages, windy roads ( the best type), Norman castles, and older: and decent cities - with Scotland shading it on the cities.

Both Islands, in fact, are rather spectacular given their relative size: ten thousand miles of coastline. England suffers from over urbanisation in the South, but has it's charms, as has wales.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by macaddict0001

My ideology states that people are equal regardless of race or nationality.

Except the Welsh. Obviously.

[skalie]

Originally Posted by Rev-O

Scottish make better whiskey. That decides it for me.

Debatable, but that's another thread.

[AKcrab]

You people suck!
<-- Is a Bruce

[Oisín]

Originally Posted by asdasd

which is about proportional. Neither country is a "dump", both have spectacular coastlines, pretty villages, windy roads ( the best type), Norman castles, and older: and decent cities - with Scotland shading it on the cities.

Both Islands, in fact, are rather spectacular given their relative size: ten thousand miles of coastline. England suffers from over urbanisation in the South, but has it's charms, as has wales.

But Ireland has Gaeilge.

[Cadaver]

The Scots have The Highlander.

[skalie]

Originally Posted by AKcrab

<-- Is a Bruce

Australian?

[AKcrab]

Originally Posted by skalie

Australian?

Nope. Ancestors came from Scotland to Nova Scotia, and then migrated to Boston. At least some of the family. There were 7 brothers..

[JoshuaZ]

Kilts. Come on. Any country that sends its armed forces off (during WWI) to fight in kilts is either awesome, crazy, or stupid. I would go with the first two.

[ShotgunEd]

Northern Ireland beats them all.

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[segovius]

I suppose the answer is that the Welsh, Irish and Scots are all equal (well, perhaps the Welsh are slightly more equal) being Celts and the original inhabitants of the islands before the Teutonic Anglish barbarians arrived in the 6th Century.

The English have always been an aggressive and barbaric race - in fact the word 'British' derives from 'Brutish' and clearly the colonisation of the Celtic lands by the Angles at a relatively late stage of Bretonic history was merely the precursor to a campaign of terror and colonisation which would later blight such cultures as the Indian, African and far-eastern as well as infesting a good part of the globe.

People are fond of wondering how a race from a small island could do all this but really the answer is simple: they are not from there.

They are in fact from Schleswig-Holstein in Germany (and share many characteristics - especially warlike ones - with the Teutons) and the possession of the Celtic lands - now known to any self-respecting quasi-Nazi football thug as 'Engerrrrrlunnnnd' (accompanied by appropriate breast-beating and associated grunts uncannily reminiscent of a lobotomized gorilla) - is merely an indication of their penchant for occupying other people's countries and terrorizing the inhabitants with drunken brawling and bad cooking.

It is also the reason why they don't value 'their' homeland as one might expect and immediately blight any vacant strip of land for sub-standard jerry-built cheap housing (at a non-cheap price) and sell-out the small remaining scintilla of English 'culture' to the US and any passing chav who happens want to set fire to a council bench whilst foaming at the mouth about immigrants.

Unfortunately these chavs are now so representative of English life - in fact, in many ways they represent it's highest intellectual and cultural attainment - that the Welsh, Scots and Irish are now no longer able to exert a civilizing influence and we prefer to hide behind a cordon sanitaire of sorts and keep ourselves to ourselves.

[Doofy]

Segovius seems to be forgetting that the Romans built Hadrian's Wall to keep the northern barbarians at bay. Not to mention the fact that England is only #2 on the "most violent western countries" list - with Scotland at #1.

Don't worry about it folks. The Welsh (in general) hate the English. Always have done. Same with the Scots. Doesn't stop them wanting English money to keep their countries afloat.

[Insurgent]

Originally Posted by segovius

I suppose the answer is that the Welsh, Irish and Scots are all equal (well, perhaps the Welsh are slightly more equal) being Celts and the original inhabitants of the islands before the Teutonic Anglish barbarians arrived in the 6th Century.

In Scots mythology there's a strong link between the ancient Scots and Egypt, as well as Spain. A warrior called 'Milesius' who was a Celtic King of Spain was married off to Queen Scotta of Egypt and together ruled the nation - hence the name Scotland, deriving from Scotta.

[segovius]

Originally Posted by Doofy

Not to mention the fact that England is only #2 on the "most violent western countries" list - with Scotland at #1.

That doesn't count - it's violence against the English.

[Insurgent]

Originally Posted by Doofy

Doesn't stop them wanting English money to keep their countries afloat.

To be exact. Scotland has its own banks, such as the Bank of Scotland. Also, Scottish currency isn't always accepted in England.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by segovius

That doesn't count - it's violence against the English.

No it wasn't - it was domestic violence.

I guess the English are responsible for the McA's constantly beating the crap out of the McB's and McC's since time began too huh? I mean, that's why tartan was invented, no? - so they could tell who to fight and who not to fight.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Insurgent

To be exact. Scotland has its own banks, such as the Bank of Scotland.

Correct. Yorkshire has its own bank too. What's your point? Are you trying to say that because Scotland has its own bank the English aren't subsidising them to the tune of £2,200 per head per year through the Barnett Formula?

[segovius]

Originally Posted by Insurgent

In Scots mythology there's a strong link between the ancient Scots and Egypt, as well as Spain. A warrior called 'Milesius' who was a Celtic King of Spain was married off to Queen Scotta of Egypt and together ruled the nation - hence the name Scotland, deriving from Scotta.

Just to annoy any Little-Englanders further: the link is actually an Islamic one, hence the connection with Spain and Egypt.

The Islamic connection with British society is a very strong one although naturally it has been purposefully covered over.

It probably started with King Offa who converted to Islam and had the coins of the realm inscribed with the shahada. An example is on display in the British Museum.

The Scottish Freemason rite is adopted wholesale from Egyptian Islamic rites (as they admit themselves) and the allegedly English Order of the Garter is likewise directly lifted from n Islamic prototype.

Other 'English' traditions are Islamic, such as Morris dancing which is in fact 'Moorish dancing' and examples can be seen regularly here in Spain.

[Insurgent]

Originally Posted by Doofy

Correct. Yorkshire has its own bank too. What's your point? Are you trying to say that because Scotland has its own bank the English aren't subsidising them to the tune of £2,200 per head per year through the Barnett Formula?

I'm saying, that it's a bit of a cheek to say that the Scots need English money to 'stay afloat' when the English won't accept the Scottish currency in many areas. I'm sure your Yorkshire notes are accepted throughout England - Scottish ones aren't.

[Insurgent]

Originally Posted by segovius

Just to annoy any Little-Englanders further: the link is actually an Islamic one, hence the connection with Spain and Egypt.

The Islamic connection with British society is a very strong one although naturally it has been purposefully covered over.

It probably started with King Offa who converted to Islam and had the coins of the realm inscribed with the shahada. An example is on display in the British Museum.

The Scottish Freemason rite is adopted wholesale from Egyptian Islamic rites (as they admit themselves) and the allegedly English Order of the Garter is likewise directly lifted from n Islamic prototype.

Other 'English' traditions are Islamic, such as Morris dancing which is in fact 'Moorish dancing' and examples can be seen regularly here in Spain.

Thanks for that, really interesting.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by segovius

It probably started with King Offa who converted to Islam and had the coins of the realm inscribed with the shahada. An example is on display in the British Museum.

http://www.sunnahonline.com/ilm/seerah/0037.htm

King Offa created a single state covering most of England south of modern Yorkshire (Humber) by ruthlessly suppressing resistance from several small kingdoms in and around Mercia

Yep, sounds like an islamic MO.

[Insurgent]

Originally Posted by Doofy

http://www.sunnahonline.com/ilm/seerah/0037.htm


Yep, sounds like an islamic MO.

Sounds like the MO of any expanding empire.

[Doofy]

Originally Posted by Insurgent

I'm saying, that it's a bit of a cheek to say that the Scots need English money to 'stay afloat' when the English won't accept the Scottish currency in many areas. I'm sure your Yorkshire notes are accepted throughout England - Scottish ones aren't.

I've never known of this happening. I'm not saying it doesn't, but I've never seen it.

[Insurgent]

Originally Posted by Doofy

I've never known of this happening. I'm not saying it doesn't, but I've never seen it.

Yeah, happens all the time. It's just a habit now that if you plan onl eaving Scotland, make sure you change all your Scots notes.

[BasketofPuppies]

weebls knows all.

[Kerrigan]

No Doofy is right, the Scottish pensioners drain so much money from the UK budget that it's ridiculous.

I'm a proud citizen of Edinburgh, but frankly I find Scotland a joke. The SNP politicians keep talking about how Scotland should be modeled after the "self-sufficient" Scandinavian countries, such as Denmark or Norway. They fail to realise that a country like Norway is incredibly rich with oil, which keeps its economy propped up.

Scotland (in and of itself) has no natural resources. All of that North Sea oil money gets funnelled directly to London and Amsterdam. Scotland does have a very advanced computer science research center in Edinburgh, but this means nothing for the economy since there is no interaction between researchers and entrepreneurs. Scotland has such an unfriendly environment towards venture capitalism that nobody in their right mind would want to set up a business in Edinburgh. So all of those brilliant students just end up taking their skills and their ideas down to England.

[ShotgunEd]

guinness + fighting > ninjas and lasers and gold.