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Coincidence? I think not. (familar OS X icon on CNN).
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Dec 19, 2005, 11:07 AM
 
First, I want to admit that I have way too much free time. (Currently unemployed but looking seriously).

I noticed this interesting icon on the CNN home page:




Hmmm. That looks like the Spotlight icon.
So I captured the icon and flipped it horizontally:



Nearly identical to the Spotlight icon.
Those webmasters at CNN probably use OS X.

Now, back to that job search.
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Dec 19, 2005, 11:41 AM
 
Sneaky bastards

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Dec 19, 2005, 12:02 PM
 
They looked very similar but not ripped from Spotlight icon. If you look closely it's not the same pixel by pixel.

It's such a basic design though. Anyone can make a graphic like that.
     
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Dec 19, 2005, 08:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by Adam Betts
It's such a basic design though. Anyone can make a graphic like that.
I cannot. I lack the skillz.
     
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Dec 19, 2005, 08:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by Adam Betts
... If you look closely it's not the same pixel by pixel.

...
I knew that!

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Dec 19, 2005, 08:49 PM
 
Let Steve Jobs come after me!! He took MY spotlight!! That rascal!

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Dec 19, 2005, 08:56 PM
 
Oh stop. Actually this woman at work today said to me, "I hate Steve Jobs, he's a thief. He staels all his ideas..."

I was flabbergasted- how can I respond?
     
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Dec 19, 2005, 09:33 PM
 
Wait until she's crossing the carpark at night and then run her over.
     
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Dec 19, 2005, 09:43 PM
 


but risk denting the new wheels? nah just slash her tires and phone her plates in as a car jacking.
     
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Dec 19, 2005, 10:45 PM
 
Sue them sue them sue them.

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Dec 20, 2005, 12:45 PM
 
It's no coincidence that graphics in general have similarities, since most graphic designer use Mac OS X. Looking at the OS X GUI surely influences your work.
     
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Originally Posted by rickey939
I cannot. I lack the skillz.
Yes, I always remembered your sig from the Office Clip Art collection…
     
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Originally Posted by Face Ache
Wait until she's crossing the carpark at night and then run her over.
Reported.



NOT

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Originally Posted by Face Ache
Wait until she's crossing the carpark at night and then run her over.
     
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Originally Posted by Face Ache
Wait until she's crossing the carpark at night and then run her over.

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Dec 20, 2005, 05:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by KeriVit
Oh stop. Actually this woman at work today said to me, "I hate Steve Jobs, he's a thief. He staels all his ideas..."

I was flabbergasted- how can I respond?
Unfortunately, the popular press makes it look like he DID steal the core idea (in most people's minds) for the Mac OS from Xerox. Xerox PARC first implemented a GUI OS years before the GUI Mac OS was released, and both Steve Jobs and Bill Gates had a chance to see it.

But it's an idea not code that they (may have) taken home with them. Since Xerox PARC has always been a money losing operation (it's pure research after all), don't you think Xerox would have sued both Apple and Microsoft if they thought their idea actually was stolen? They sure would have!

It's still funny that Apple sued MS over Windows, since there's zero code in common and both are "idea based" on someone else's idea!
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Dec 21, 2005, 06:18 AM
 
Ghporter-

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Dec 21, 2005, 07:32 AM
 
And the important facts everyone misses about the Mac's relationship to PARC and later Windows are that 1) Apple compensated Xerox for a tour of the center while M$ never compensated either party 2) Apple took Xerox's rudimentary GUI concepts and extended them considerably. Although it was its forerunner in some repsects, the Alto's UI bore little resemblance the Macintosh's. M$ wasn't really copying Xerox's work - it was copying Apple's; that's why SJ was so enraged by the project. When people claim Apple ripped off Xerox and thus it's acceptable that M$ did the same thing in turn, they're really insulting the incredible work of Atkinson, Hertzfeld, Horn, Capps and the other geniuses of the original Mac team (including, importantly, Mac hardware architect Burrell Smith). Folklore.org should be required reading for everyone who loves the Mac, btw.
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Dec 21, 2005, 08:18 AM
 
more good reading link
with links to letters from bruce horn and jef raskin

conclusions quote...
Conclusions

Apple did not rip-off the Alto (Xerox-Parc) -- how could they? Apple was a product oriented company that produced a computer on their own. That computer had a few similarities in concept (user interface) with stuff Xerox was doing, but almost NOTHING in common design or implementation. Apple's metaphors went way way beyond what Xerox was doing (though there are other areas where Xerox was beyond Apple). They were trying to achieve different goals -- and from different points of view. Apple was creating the ultimate personal computer. Xerox was doing research tools, and later tried to make a big client-server type document distribution systems. These are about as similar as a motorcyle and a commuter Bus.

Microsoft on the other hand did rip-off Apple. The concept of making a computer easy to use is way to broad to protect, and Apple didn't complain about that. Windows, icons and menus are not ripping Apple off either -- these are broad concepts. Microsoft got sued because they stole design, implementation and finally metaphors (look and feel). They stole the way you manipulate things on the computer -- as well as almost everything underneath. I sometimes swear that if Microsoft had an original thought the company would immediately implode in suprise. Almost Everything good in Windows can be traced directly to the Mac (which the Mac had years before) -- and almost everything bad in Windows can be traced directly to where MS tried to do things different than the Mac and proved they don't know what they hell they are doing.
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Dec 21, 2005, 08:18 AM
 
Originally Posted by ghporter
... don't you think Xerox would have sued both Apple and Microsoft if they thought their idea actually was stolen? They sure would have!
ummm ... I believe they did:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_C...Microsoft_Corp.
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