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Dark Helmet · Dec 19, 2005, 03:15 PM

Ok there are lots of bad Apple related stories about but this one strikes me as particularly retarded.

He talks how the iPod is selling double of last year and how everyone uses iTunes but Apple should buy Palm because "Microsoft gets it".

He also mentions how Palm hates MS and it would be a good fight. I guess he forgot how Palm just killed its own OS to use Microsofts.

I cannot understand how Apple would gain ANYTHING from buying Palm. Apple made a better PDA in 1993 than Palm does today.

http://business.bostonherald.com/tec...ticleid=117693

scaught · Dec 19, 2005, 03:38 PM

i like palm, but i also dont expect it to do much more than be a digital organizer.

that said, i think apple buying palm would be insane.

turtle777 · Dec 19, 2005, 03:55 PM

Well, I dunno. Someone's gotta RE-INVENT the PDA. Everything on the market right now is bad at best.

-t

Cody Dawg · Dec 19, 2005, 04:07 PM

Does Palm have stock? What is it (number/code). I'm going to buy a crapload of it.

I bought Apple at 16 1/2 a long time ago...best thing I've ever done. 1000 shares worth and now I'm very happy.

I'll buy Palm for the same reason. When things are looking grim on something, buy it. I've made money that way and I'll continue to do it.

Just stay out of restaurant stocks, that's all.

Kerrigan · Dec 19, 2005, 04:09 PM

Frankly, I think that Apple should buy a stake in AOL, and set AOL as the default web browser.

Also Apple should use AOL's program to replace Finder, in the same way that IE replaced the file browser in Windows.

The fact of the matter is that Apple would stand to benefit by integrating the award winning AOL Optimized 9.0 into Mac OS X.

cjrivera · Dec 19, 2005, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Frankly, I think that Apple should buy a stake in AOL, and set AOL as the default web browser.

Also Apple should use AOL's program to replace Finder, in the same way that IE replaced the file browser in Windows.

The fact of the matter is that Apple would stand to benefit by integrating the award winning AOL Optimized 9.0 into Mac OS X.

eWorld '06?
or maybe they can call it iWorld

waxcrash · Dec 19, 2005, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Does Palm have stock? What is it (number/code). I'm going to buy a crapload of it.

I bought Apple at 16 1/2 a long time ago...best thing I've ever done. 1000 shares worth and now I'm very happy.

I'll buy Palm for the same reason. When things are looking grim on something, buy it. I've made money that way and I'll continue to do it.

Just stay out of restaurant stocks, that's all.

Palm's stock is traded on the NASDAQ under the ticker PALM. It's around $30/share. I think it's a good buy, not because things are 'looking grim', but when they release the Treo running Microsoft's OS, it's going to sell like hotcakes.

Sijmen · Dec 19, 2005, 04:43 PM

It would be cool to have an Apple PDA. I wish somebody did something with Psion, I want my PDA to have a keyboard.

scaught · Dec 19, 2005, 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Frankly, I think that Apple should buy a stake in AOL, and set AOL as the default web browser.

Also Apple should use AOL's program to replace Finder, in the same way that IE replaced the file browser in Windows.

The fact of the matter is that Apple would stand to benefit by integrating the award winning AOL Optimized 9.0 into Mac OS X.

cmon now. noones going to flame you when you push it THAT far.

phillryu · Dec 19, 2005, 05:18 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Does Palm have stock? What is it (number/code). I'm going to buy a crapload of it.

I bought Apple at 16 1/2 a long time ago...best thing I've ever done. 1000 shares worth and now I'm very happy.

I'll buy Palm for the same reason. When things are looking grim on something, buy it. I've made money that way and I'll continue to do it.

Just stay out of restaurant stocks, that's all.

Wow, you must've made a bundle! What's that worth now? Didn't AAPL split during that time too?

Salty · Dec 19, 2005, 05:46 PM

I'd love to see a small Apple PDA, isn't gona happen though.

Miniryu · Dec 19, 2005, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Frankly, I think that Apple should buy a stake in AOL, and set AOL as the default web browser.

Also Apple should use AOL's program to replace Finder, in the same way that IE replaced the file browser in Windows.

The fact of the matter is that Apple would stand to benefit by integrating the award winning AOL Optimized 9.0 into Mac OS X.

Why would they do that? Isn't AOL's browser just a tweaked version of Firefox? And why should Apple copy something Microsoft did with their OS? If I liked the way M$ did stuff I would be using Windows right now. You need to explain exactly how Apple would stand to benefit by integrating AOL into Mac OS X. You provided no evidence, logical reasoning or otherwise, on how your statement might be true.

production_coordinator · Dec 19, 2005, 05:58 PM

IMHO, Apple would simply offer an iPod upgrade that had handwriting recognition and better integration with your Mac/PC.

DeathToWindows · Dec 19, 2005, 09:28 PM

Its the farking HERALD, what do you expect.

Damn, that's not a paper - I wouldn't even use it to wipe my ass!

Kerrigan · Dec 19, 2005, 10:18 PM

Originally Posted by Miniryu

Why would they do that? Isn't AOL's browser just a tweaked version of Firefox? And why should Apple copy something Microsoft did with their OS? If I liked the way M$ did stuff I would be using Windows right now. You need to explain exactly how Apple would stand to benefit by integrating AOL into Mac OS X. You provided no evidence, logical reasoning or otherwise, on how your statement might be true.

Because think about how much better it would be to double-click on a folder and have AOL launch. Then you could see your files displayed in a browser window, which would make things like FTP hosting and file-sharing easier.

Also making AOL a part of the OS means that your computer would be free of viruses and spam.

And a really nice perk would be the ability to Make $$$ Refer a Friend. Mac OS would be able to show you little reminders of this referal program in all sorts of places, like the Dock and the Apple Menu.

Wiskedjak · Dec 19, 2005, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Apple made a better PDA in 1993 than Palm does today.

Strange that it's no longer around then ...

JoshuaZ · Dec 19, 2005, 10:37 PM

Palm is so 1990s. PDA are going away as the average user ditches them for an iPod or a nice cell phone.

Kerrigan · Dec 19, 2005, 11:03 PM

I've heard lots of good things about the Newton, so Apple must have been doing something right.

Based on my own experience with the Newton, it seems like it is just a post-it note combined with a wrist-watch that weighs as much as a cinder block.

Perhaps I am biased against the Newton though, since I hate all PDAs.

Railroader · Dec 19, 2005, 11:12 PM

Shouldn't this be in the iPod forum?

goMac · Dec 20, 2005, 12:06 AM

He misses that Palm has been dropping Mac support.

He misses Palm is moving to Windows Mobile.

He misses that Steve hates PDA's.

He misses that Apple is most likely working on their own phone and in no need of Palm.

This guy is dead wrong.

Weyland-Yutani · Dec 20, 2005, 12:26 AM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Frankly, I think that Apple should buy a stake in AOL, and set AOL as the default web browser.

Also Apple should use AOL's program to replace Finder, in the same way that IE replaced the file browser in Windows.

The fact of the matter is that Apple would stand to benefit by integrating the award winning AOL Optimized 9.0 into Mac OS X.

Or perhaps not. It is sad to see how little people have learned from MS screw-up with the browser/filebrowser integration and to see how they hold the Mac Finder in low esteem.

Perhaps the Finder will be replaced, but not by a web-browser. Security reasons.

cheers

W-Y

Weyland-Yutani · Dec 20, 2005, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Because think about how much better it would be to double-click on a folder and have AOL launch. Then you could see your files displayed in a browser window, which would make things like FTP hosting and file-sharing easier.

I'm going to be the first to tell you then: FTP and file sharing do not depend on how you interact with your files, i.e. how you view them. I am going to make a logical assumption now: You don't really know what you are talking about..?

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Also making AOL a part of the OS means that your computer would be free of viruses and spam.

Mac OS X doesn't have a single virus. Spam is email related, so again I assume you don't know what you are saying. Perhaps you know what you want to say, but that isn't the same thing.

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

And a really nice perk would be the ability to Make $$$ Refer a Friend. Mac OS would be able to show you little reminders of this referal program in all sorts of places, like the Dock and the Apple Menu.

Spam. Why do you talk in circles? AOL for no spam and yet at the same time for spam. Perhaps this idea of yours is not good and will never happen.

cheers

W-Y

Railroader · Dec 20, 2005, 01:43 AM

Originally Posted by Weyland-Yutani

Or perhaps not. It is sad to see ...

Originally Posted by scaught

cmon now. noones going to flame you when you push it THAT far.

Originally Posted by Miniryu

Why would they do that? Isn't AOL's browser just a tweaked version ...

Why am I not surprised that only cjrivera got the sarcasm in Kerrigan's posts?

Originally Posted by cjrivera

eWorld '06?
or maybe they can call it iWorld

You guys amaze me.

cpt kangarooski · Dec 20, 2005, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by DeathToWindows

Its the farking HERALD, what do you expect.

Damn, that's not a paper - I wouldn't even use it to wipe my ass!

Yeah, whenever I run into the guys giving out free Heralds at Kenmore Sq. I just keep walking.

(However, I will grant that I would prefer to see good papers in a tabloid format, rather than the more common broadsheets. Broadsheets are just too large to be convenient.)

Chuckit · Dec 20, 2005, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by Wiskedjak

Strange that it's no longer around then ...

It was before anyone cared about PDAs, it was pretty expensive, and the handwriting recognition was kmloa skeichy (that's my imitation of writing "kinda sketchy" on a Newton). It was a relatively good PDA, though, as I recall, aside from taking a long time to figure out what you were writing.

By the way, His Steveness declared a while ago that he doesn't think PDAs are Where It's At anymore and the functionality would just be built into other devices, such as mobile phones. Hence, no iNewton.

chris v · Dec 20, 2005, 06:53 AM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

Frankly, I think that Apple should buy a stake in AOL, and set AOL as the default web browser.

Also Apple should use AOL's program to replace Finder, in the same way that IE replaced the file browser in Windows.

The fact of the matter is that Apple would stand to benefit by integrating the award winning AOL Optimized 9.0 into Mac OS X.

You've been upside-down on those options for a while, huh?

scaught · Dec 20, 2005, 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Railroader

Why am I not surprised that only cjrivera got the sarcasm in Kerrigan's posts?

i got it tooooooooo.

Miniryu · Dec 20, 2005, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Railroader

Why am I not surprised that only cjrivera got the sarcasm in Kerrigan's posts?

You guys amaze me.

Ya, I didn't get it until he responded to my response. I was literally laughing out loud at the bit about reminders popping up in the dock and apple menu. Good stuff.

His Dudeness · Dec 21, 2005, 03:14 AM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

I've heard lots of good things about the Newton, so Apple must have been doing something right.

Based on my own experience with the Newton, it seems like it is just a post-it note combined with a wrist-watch that weighs as much as a cinder block.

Perhaps I am biased against the Newton though, since I hate all PDAs.

Well, it was made in the early to mid 90's. If the Newton was made today, it would be the size of a Treo... that's a hint for Apple to buy Palm, imho.

JoshuaZ · Dec 21, 2005, 03:29 AM

I would be happy if Apple came out with a real phone, and not the little piece of crud that was released a while back. So lame Apple.

production_coordinator · Dec 21, 2005, 12:48 PM

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

I would be happy if Apple came out with a real phone, and not the little piece of crud that was released a while back. So lame Apple.

I agree, but the cell phone companies don't want to cut Apple into their profits. Look at SprintPCS. They are trying to charge $2.50 for each song... $2.50!!!!

Ummm... pardon me while I die laughing.

IMHO, Apple can't break into the mobile phone business... and the cell companies aren't good at A) Picking good hardware and B) Freeing up their hardware to where the devices become very useful.