[36days]

A friend's site has just gone live at http://www.36-days.com

I did some tweaks, an interview with her and then uploaded it all evening. I'm really anxious for her and hope everything goes well. Phew.

Some background. My friend is going to Las Vegas in a couple of days to make some money to pay for an MSc course she is desperate to do quickly. Sounds foolish so far but she's quite a different breed of woman. She was a croupier and has been studying several games intensively minus the lame theories that are out there. She's also a mathematical whizkid. We test her sometimes, like we throw big sums at her and she does them in her head in several seconds even when we're out wine tasting.

So anyway, her task is going to be twofold. She wants to make enough money for the course and she also wants to find the most perfect roulette system possible which she is going to share on the blog freely unlike those charlatans who try to make money out of theories that don't work.

She'll probably be reading this forum at some point so let's discuss the task ahead of her and if anyone has some interesting tips she'll be glad to read them and respond back. I haven't told her I posted this yet but she is a PowerBook user (12") and pops by here and uses the search function when she is looking for answers.

I dedicate this thread to a very bright and beautiful great girl.

[Maflynn]

Originally Posted by 36days

So anyway, her task is going to be twofold. She wants to make enough money for the course and she also wants to find the most perfect roulette system possible which she is going to share on the blog freely unlike those charlatans who try to make money out of theories that don't work.

Call me a pessimest but I don't think there is a mos perfect roulette system. That game has been around for hundred(s) of years, I'm sure some pretty intelligant people already tried to find a fool proof system. Other then computer the mass and speed of the ball, along with the speed of the rotating wheel, there's no way to definitively determine where it will land.

[Dork.]

Originally Posted by Maflynn

Call me a pessimest but I don't think there is a mos perfect roulette system. That game has been around for hundred(s) of years, I'm sure some pretty intelligant people already tried to find a fool proof system. Other then computer the mass and speed of the ball, along with the speed of the rotating wheel, there's no way to definitively determine where it will land.

What he said. There is only one fool-proof system to make money at roulette -- own the table. It takes supercomputer-level math to predict where the ball will land, and that's after perfectly estimating the speeds of the ball and the wheel. You have better chances with blackjack or craps, if you really study both games. Even video poker can yield favorable odds, provided you study the odds. But Roulette has some of the worse odds in the casino, because the game itself is so simple. It's essentially one giant sucker bet.

I'm afraid the only way your friend is sure to make money at the tables is by dancing on one.

[36days]

Roulette actually has the best odds of any game in the casino playing on the even chances: red, black, the dozens, etc Few people know how to play them though. Sylvia isn't telling anyone around her exactly what she is going to come up with, only that she has a few ideas. I think she's up to something pretty clever. I interviewed her 3 hours ago. You can read the zero hour interview on the site to get some idea of what sort of person she is. She doesn't believe in any fancy theories about ball prediction or what is normally called Dealer's Signature. I think she's also be talking blackjack and poker as she always does but we'll see what happens.

I also want to thank member ism for helping me get the navigation table to work with Firefox.

Any experienced players in the forum?

[scaught]

Originally Posted by 36days

Roulette actually has the best odds of any game in the casino playing on the even chances: red, black, the dozens, etc Few people know how to play them though. Sylvia isn't telling anyone around her exactly what she is going to come up with, only that she has a few ideas. I think she's up to something pretty clever. I interviewed her 3 hours ago. You can read the zero hour interview on the site to get some idea of what sort of person she is. She doesn't believe in any fancy theories about ball prediction or what is normally called Dealer's Signature. I think she's also be talking blackjack and poker as she always does but we'll see what happens.

I also want to thank member ism for helping me get the navigation table to work with Firefox.

Any experienced players in the forum?

i might be wrong here, but if i remember correctly craps has the best odds in the casino, even money with the house.

roulette betting is complicated percentage wise by the green space/s on the wheel. sometimes theres one, sometimes theres 2. obviously, 1 green space (0) is better than 2(0 and 00). so ya, a red/black bet isnt 50/50 because of the green spaces. a dozens bet isnt 1 in 3 because of the green spaces. etc.

its a suckers game.

tell her to learn to play hold'em and look for the weekend poker *********s in hoodies with sunglasses on trying to do chip tricks.

[euchomai]

Very elaborate spam?

[36days]

Originally Posted by euchomai

Very elaborate spam?

Now that's rude. C'mon, it's a blog. We were going to do a documentary but unless we used concealed cameras and broke house rules which bar recording equipment nowadays it was impossible.

[36days]

Originally Posted by scaught

tell her to learn to play hold'em and look for the weekend poker *********s in hoodies with sunglasses on trying to do chip tricks.

She used to teach and deal Hold'em.

[euchomai]

Originally Posted by 36days

Now that's rude. C'mon, it's a blog. We were going to do a documentary but unless we used concealed cameras and broke house rules which bar recording equipment nowadays it was impossible.

Not trying to be rude, just seems like a strange first set of posts. Just wondering where you are coming from, thats all.

[36days]

Originally Posted by euchomai

Not trying to be rude, just seems like a strange first set of posts. Just wondering where you are coming from, thats all.

It's alright, I understand that exploitive behaviour and shifty characters tend to be associated with gaming but that's more motion picture and television version of reality or something from way back in the 50s.

[euchomai]

I'm not referring to the gambling. I'm referring to the fact that everything about you is a walking billboard for your site. Your name, sig and all posts so far.

Seems like you are less about community and more about driving business to your website.

[Mrjinglesusa]

Originally Posted by euchomai

I'm not referring to the gambling. I'm referring to the fact that everything about you is a walking billboard for your site. Your name, sig and all posts so far.

Seems like you are less about community and more about driving business to your website.

Cleverly disguised SPAM.

[36days]

Originally Posted by euchomai

I'm not referring to the gambling. I'm referring to the fact that everything about you is a walking billboard for your site. Your name, sig and all posts so far.

Seems like you are less about community and more about driving business to your website.

I really don't understand what's the problem with discussing a blog that has a person taking a challenge upon herself and a site that has links to Gambler's Anonymous.

I know I chose a name and sig that goes with the site but then I couldn't of anything else at the time. The posts are all in keeping with a topic. How can that be avoided? Today I posted about Battlefield 2 and several other topics over the last few days. I don't understand your attitude. I know everyone can't be happy but do you have to spit on people when they are sharing their experiences and not selling a single product?

[36days]

Originally Posted by scaught

i might be wrong here, but if i remember correctly craps has the best odds in the casino, even money with the house.

roulette betting is complicated percentage wise by the green space/s on the wheel. sometimes theres one, sometimes theres 2. obviously, 1 green space (0) is better than 2(0 and 00). so ya, a red/black bet isnt 50/50 because of the green spaces. a dozens bet isnt 1 in 3 because of the green spaces. etc.

I should have answered you more to keep this on topic.

Basically when you're playing the even chances, columns and dozens the odds are 2 to 1 (1:1 payout), 3 to 1 (2:1 payout) and again 3 to 1 (2:1 payout).

On the even chances red, black, 1-19, 19-36, even, odd, etc if your bet loses you get half the bet back. In some European casinos the bet is imprisoned and held on to for the next spin. Poker, craps and blackjack don't pay you money back if you lose.

As for the 0 and 00 numbers. In Europe as some of you may know there is only a single 0. The edge is only about five and a half percent in favour of the house when playing the even chances. In American roulette there is an extra greeny, the 00, which raises the house edge. Either way the house edge is lower than nearly all games.

As for "spam", if someone doesn't like the subject they can read something else. I really want to see what regular players think and see what ideas can be shared.

[wdlove]

I wish her all the best with her studies. I'm sure that she is a very bright and nice looking young lady.

Sounds as though you is very lucky to have you as a friend.

[36days]

Originally Posted by wdlove

I wish her all the best with her studies. I'm sure that she is a very bright and nice looking young lady.

Sounds as though you is very lucky to have you as a friend.

took me a few seconds to read that right.

Mate, she is my buddy's girlfriend. Yesterday she was trying to get me a date on myspace but I I'm not going near that kind of thing after that scene in Closer.

[wdlove]

Originally Posted by 36days

took me a few seconds to read that right.

Mate, she is my buddy's girlfriend. Yesterday she was trying to get me a date on myspace but I I'm not going near that kind of thing after that scene in Closer.

I agree, would prefer to stay away from online dating. Preferred it the old fashion way, which was popular when I was growing up. The best is if a friend does and introduction.

[36days]

Originally Posted by wdlove

I agree, would prefer to stay away from online dating. Preferred it the old fashion way, which was popular when I was growing up. The best is if a friend does and introduction.

I love it when women are kind enough to introduce a guy around. It's like spreading butter on bread erm something like that.

[euchomai]

I'm not trying to have an attitude, you are pretty defensive... Spam is spam.

On topic now. I would think that roulette is the least of a true gamblers game. Seems to me that blackjack is probably the best odds.

I like this story on About's website. Might not be true, but funny enough. Strong liver,

http://govegas.about.com/cs/howtogam...wtoroulete.htm

[36days]

Originally Posted by euchomai

I'm not trying to have an attitude (ahem)

http://govegas.about.com/cs/howtogam...wtoroulete.htm

Take my advice. Ditch your conspiracy theories. If have the time then read what she will have to say and compare it to the link you posted. A croupier speaking publically is a rare thing and full of experience. Philosophical buggers they are too. Would be wicked to see Sylvia and an American croupier debating. Anyone know any?

[RAILhead]

Okay, I'll say it for all of us:

[euchomai]

http://www.learndirect-advice.co.uk/...s/profile1266/

Yeah, according to this, they need to be geniuses to be hired.

Big deal, a dealer or spinner.

[Dork.]

Originally Posted by 36days

Basically when you're playing the even chances, columns and dozens the odds are 2 to 1 (1:1 payout), 3 to 1 (2:1 payout) and again 3 to 1 (2:1 payout).

On the even chances red, black, 1-19, 19-36, even, odd, etc if your bet loses you get half the bet back. In some European casinos the bet is imprisoned and held on to for the next spin. Poker, craps and blackjack don't pay you money back if you lose.

As for the 0 and 00 numbers. In Europe as some of you may know there is only a single 0. The edge is only about five and a half percent in favour of the house when playing the even chances. In American roulette there is an extra greeny, the 00, which raises the house edge. Either way the house edge is lower than nearly all games.

The house edge is only lower than the other games for those who don't know how to play them properly. Craps and Blackjack can both be played to less than .5% if you know what you're doing. On the other hand, you can get very horrible odds if you take the sucker bets on the board -- your betting strategy definitely matters in these games. The same can apply to video poker if you pick a machine with the right payout.

But in roulette, the house edge is fixed, and no strategy can change it, ever. Even with all the favorable rules -- a single 0 and imprisonment on even-money bets -- the house edge will never go below 1.3%, no matter what oyur betting pattern is. A particular session may do well for you, but the house has the only winnign strategy in Roulette.

Here's a good discussion of the math behind all this.

[loki74]

Originally Posted by Maflynn

Call me a pessimest but I don't think there is a mos perfect roulette system. That game has been around for hundred(s) of years, I'm sure some pretty intelligant people already tried to find a fool proof system. Other then computer the mass and speed of the ball, along with the speed of the rotating wheel, there's no way to definitively determine where it will land.

As a 3D animator, modeling natural phenomena is one of the goals I try to achieve. There are a number of physical simulation tools out there that can model hardbody, softbody, fluid, and cloth dynamics. I havent looked much into hard/softbody or cloth dynamics, but I have done some looking into fluid dynamics.

In this particular case, we are looking at fluid dynamics (surrounding air) and hardbody physicis (ball & wheel).

From what I understand, most computer simulations for fluid dynamics solve simplified versions of the Navier-Stokes equations on several 3D Voxel grids. In a situation like this, a fairly high-resolution grid would be required. In basic simulations, one can get away with two grids-a scalar field modeling density and a vector field modeling velocity. My guess is, to get an accurate result, you would also need a tempurature field and a pressure field. You would also need a field in which to model the hard bodies (wheel, table, people, ball) because they will definately be affected by the air, and of course will affect the air itself.

Unless she has a massive amount of computing power at her side, it is pretty much impossible to know, mathematically, exactly what the result will be. (note that I am not suggesting this is what you (OP) mean to do, this is mainly in response to the idea of computing the result mathematically)

That said, chances are a simulation like this might get away with a lower resolution grid, and stilll be accurate enough. But having waited around myself for very very simple simulations to resolve, I can say, calculating where the ball will land exactly is not a viable option.

=========

And, as a Vegas resident, I can tell you... this is a GREAT idea! Sure, come here and give us your money! It helps the economy! </sarcasm> No, seriously... I would advise against gambling as a money source. But it is a wonderful city, and I hope your friend has lots of fun!!

All that said, I would agree that your friend is in a much better position than the average joe to be trying to make money in Vegas, having been a croupier and a math-whiz.

PS you do seem awfully spammy about your site, as others have said. not sure if that is your intention, but whatev... and it is very cool that your friend uses the 'NN to get answers.

[rozwado1]

Originally Posted by 36days

I dedicate this thread to a very bright and beautiful great girl.

PIX PLZ THX

[euchomai]

Originally Posted by rozwado1

PIX PLZ THX

This forum is full of great, funny people.

[ledzeppelin]

....

[36days]

Originally Posted by loki74

As a 3D animator, modeling natural phenomena is one of the goals I try to achieve. There are a number of physical simulation tools out there that can model hardbody, softbody, fluid, and cloth dynamics. I havent looked much into hard/softbody or cloth dynamics, but I have done some looking into fluid dynamics.

In this particular case, we are looking at fluid dynamics (surrounding air) and hardbody physicis (ball & wheel).

From what I understand, most computer simulations for fluid dynamics solve simplified versions of the Navier-Stokes equations on several 3D Voxel grids. In a situation like this, a fairly high-resolution grid would be required. In basic simulations, one can get away with two grids-a scalar field modeling density and a vector field modeling velocity. My guess is, to get an accurate result, you would also need a tempurature field and a pressure field. You would also need a field in which to model the hard bodies (wheel, table, people, ball) because they will definately be affected by the air, and of course will affect the air itself.

Unless she has a massive amount of computing power at her side, it is pretty much impossible to know, mathematically, exactly what the result will be. (note that I am not suggesting this is what you (OP) mean to do, this is mainly in response to the idea of computing the result mathematically)

That said, chances are a simulation like this might get away with a lower resolution grid, and stilll be accurate enough. But having waited around myself for very very simple simulations to resolve, I can say, calculating where the ball will land exactly is not a viable option.

=========

And, as a Vegas resident, I can tell you... this is a GREAT idea! Sure, come here and give us your money! It helps the economy! </sarcasm> No, seriously... I would advise against gambling as a money source. But it is a wonderful city, and I hope your friend has lots of fun!!

All that said, I would agree that your friend is in a much better position than the average joe to be trying to make money in Vegas, having been a croupier and a math-whiz.

PS you do seem awfully spammy about your site, as others have said. not sure if that is your intention, but whatev... and it is very cool that your friend uses the 'NN to get answers.

Really great to hear from you, loki. Sylvia was on myspace the other night asking various Las Vegas residents about places that are good to visit. If you could suggest some then please do.

Interesting read above re: computer simulations. Someone mentioned that the online casinos should base their roulette software on simulated physics. At the moment they are random numbers being generated but then that's more or less what you get with a real roulette table. There was a very interesting story last year or so in the news about a group of guys who went to the casinos in London armed with a cellphone (with camera )that could read a Dealer's Signature. Even though theoretically DS shouldn't exist, these guys netted £2 million over the time they were there and were taken to court. The judge ruled as they did not influence the game they could keep their money. The use of camera phones are now banned. You are not even allowed to take or make a call while playing too.

Today we're all going to have a quiet drink at midnight. She leaves for Vegas tomorrow at midday. It's supposed to be very cold there apparently.

[d4nth3m4n]

if she's so bright and beautiful why doesn't she go with the one guaranteed vegas moneymaker- letting people stick it to her for $$.

at least when people do it she expects to get screwed..

[36days]

Originally Posted by d4nth3m4n

if she's so bright and beautiful why doesn't she go with the one guaranteed vegas moneymaker- letting people stick it to her for $$.

at least when people do it she expects to get screwed..

I think it's time I told her to read this topic

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by euchomai

Very elaborate spam?

Seconded. WTF ?

-t

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by RAILhead

Okay, I'll say it for all of us:

Thanks, Maury.

-t

[Cadaver]

For an attractive young lady, I can think of ways to make a whole lot of money in Las Vegas without having to try to win at casino games at all.

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Don't worry 36days about the jealous idiots who dissed in this thread. They stamp on everyone who need feedback or help. They are pure Siths.

For your guys information I know Jonathan and the girl who is going Las Vegas. They came to my workplace (Samba Publishing) some 2 weeks ago and we helped them with ideas for the website. They never done any HTML before and learned then coded everything on that site manually with nothing but TextEdit in less than a month when they found out a documentary is not possible to make.

Yes, 'Sylvia' is a ****ing great girl. Jedi babe. BIG KISSES TO YOU XXXXXXXX

[loki74]

Originally Posted by 36days

It's supposed to be very cold there apparently.

Well, you'll hear residents like myself complaining about weather being too cold, but that's just because we're acquainted with 90-110 degree weather during summer months. I doubt your friend will have huge problems with the temperature here!

[euchomai]

Get over yourself... Thanks for backing this wonderful story up. Can I ask why, and of what we are jealous? This might be the most elaborate spam I've ever seen on a message board. We are still waiting on PIX too.

[RAILhead]

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Originally Posted by euchomai

Get over yourself...

Boy, you gotta get over yourself and look at your lunatic site before you go dissing other people. You know how many people use this forum to promote their sites and blogs? From your loser site it's obvious you got the biggest chip on your shoulder and you gotta get out more and stop blaming other people for your problems (you can't get a woman so you cuss them like above) You should gamble or take a risk sometime: take a risk getting out of bed for once first

[36days]

Originally Posted by loki74

Well, you'll hear residents like myself complaining about weather being too cold, but that's just because we're acquainted with 90-110 degree weather during summer months. I doubt your friend will have huge problems with the temperature here!

The plane just took off so she's on her way with a suitcase full of warm clothing.

[euchomai]

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

Boy, you gotta get over yourself and look at your lunatic site before you go dissing other people. You know how many people use this forum to promote their sites and blogs? From your loser site it's obvious you got the biggest chip on your shoulder and you gotta get out more and stop blaming other people for your problems (you can't get a woman so you cuss them like above) You should gamble or take a risk sometime: take a risk getting out of bed for once first

Actually it's not my site. It's a joke site made by the Glenn Beck show. I though it was funny and haven't changed my sig in a long time. Notice the size the the pic is. I am an evil conservative though.

Now, the woman part. This statement proves that you are a little college or high school punk. That is normally the comparison that kids make. Sorry to burst your bubble, but I have kids and a wife already. I do go to the casino regularly, and I have no idea why you are defending this person. Your entire post is a fallacy.

I've never dogged the woman, I dogged the guy that is named after a website, posted his first thread about his website, has his sig as his website.

So, obi wan, your powers were way off this time. Sorry that your use of the force sucks so badly.

[Obi Wan's Ghost]

Originally Posted by euchomai

I have kids and a wife already. I do go to the casino regularly, and I have no idea why you are defending this person.
I've never dogged the woman, I dogged the guy that is named after a website, posted his first thread about his website, has his sig as his website.

So you going to "dog" RAILhead and 50 something other popular members for doing the same thing, you hypocritical SOB?

36days' first post was when I met him 2 weeks ago when he was asking advices in the web developer forum from some of us guys who don't "DOG" people on the internet like an sexually insecure stalker. 36days' first thread is in the applications forum btw. Just explain what your reason for trying to hurt people who want feedback? It's so sad to see such a pathetic example of a person. If you don't know people personally don't go ****ing "dogging" them. Go do what other dogs do and piss on a post box.

I will definitely be reading every post the girl makes because after I spoke with her I was damn impressed by how sharp like a double sided light saber she is. Did I tell you hwo they learned HTML and graphics in less than a month? Everybody at our publishing house are damn impressed. Of course I'm happy because I recommended they use less colors to make the front end look sexy and dark

You don't want to read her site that's your business. I for one congratulate any person who comes to the forum with some interesting news, blogs, links, anything quality. Remember the forum policy: If you don't like it don't read it.

[euchomai]

You are freaking CRAZY. I'm not the one coming off as insane right now. Wow, just wow! I'm a regular guy that asked if this was spam.

I think you are projecting the sexually insecure thing because you just might be! I normally don't stoop to levels like that, but in this case... Wow, you are crazy. I've never been attacked on this site before actually. So congratz... You've won the prize. I really can't understand your amazing FANBOY response to threads.

[euchomai]

Sorry to derail the thread. I'll stick to the topic from now in this mess.

[36days]

Originally Posted by euchomai

You are freaking CRAZY. I'm not the one coming off as insane right now. Wow, just wow! I'm a regular guy that asked if this was spam.

I would appreciate it if you both would stop arguing. Anyone who reads the site would know it is a form of blog that could be called a docublog.

News update: She got to Las Vegas. Yes it's cold, something like -2 last night (which is at the moment). She's trying to adjust her waking hours right now to offset the jetlag. She also needs to find the Apple Store to use the hotspot there to send her entries (I'll have to get her how to do it herself soon as I got work). Then it's playtime!

[36days]

She has started to play. Warming up right now.

http://www.36-days.com/day1.html

[turtle777]

-t

[andreas_g4]

Thank you for the update, I greatly appreciate this thread being bumped. Not! The idea might interest some people, but apparently not here. Registering just to "promote" that blog - not good. Annoying forum members with "She has started to play" thread bumpers is just ridiculous. Get your own blog.

And btw, this is just stupid:

Originally Posted by 36days

She'll probably be reading this forum at some point […]

I dedicate this thread to a very bright and beautiful great girl.

Do you think you lay her this way?

[36days]

I have not registered to promote a blog here. The place to do that is Blogger, weblogsinc, etc. We wanted some help with our CSS and image code which we got. Then a couple of members beta tested the results. After that it was just some feedback we wanted from any poker, roulette or blackjack players if they happened to be some.

I understand your feelings anyway and promise not to bump a thread in such a trivial way.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by 36days

I have not registered to promote a blog here.

Understatement of the millenium.

-t

[36days]

Originally Posted by turtle777

Understatement of the millenium.

-t

OK, time to put on the anti-dog sunglasses and deal with mockery!

Day 2 and 3 are finally up for those who were asking what happened.

http://www.36-days.com/day2.html

http://www.36-days.com/day3.html

She moved out of the hotel to a friend's house but can't get internet access unless she goes to Las Vegas Blvd.

If anyone wants to have a discussion about what she went through feel free to drop a message.