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I hate to say it, but Yahoo seems to be a better search engine than Google
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I know everyone is having this love affair over Google. They are a cool company but when i comes to having recent and updated content appear when you search for something they sorta suck.
I have been using google exclusively for 4 years. For the past couple years though I have seen how outdated some of their search results are. For example when doing an image search a large number of the results end up being page not found.
More importantly when I launch a new website or update the content I thought it was the norm for Google to take 3-6 months to reflect the changes.
I launched a new website 3 months ago and Google has no clue it even exists even though I submitted it to google. At the same rate it took yahoo less than a month to find and crawl the page on its own.
Same goes for my website. I recently replaced everything on it, it took yahoo less than a week to figure that out. When doing a search for my company in Google it shows some summery which doesn't even appear on the page and is about 4 years outdated. Same case for websites which have been totally offline for 6 months.
I like the other google services like the maps and google ads but their search engine leaves much to be desired when it comes to recent information.
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Maybe you did something wrong because my site came up only a day or two after I launched it /shrug.
EDIT:
Do a search on "starman warcraft". My site comes up on Google link #2, but on Yahoo link #8. In fact, Yahoo lists my Everquest 2 posts before my own site for World of Warcraft!
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Originally Posted by starman
Maybe you did something wrong because my site came up only a day or two after I launched it /shrug.
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How can I do something wrong?
Do a search on Google for "david ivkovic". It should show davidivkovic.com but it doesn't know it even exists even though it has been up since early nov.
Yahoo finds it no prob.
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Sorry...what I meant was your bot tags.
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Why do you hate to say it ?
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Why do you hate to say it ?
Because it's an unpopular and not politically correct opinion.
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Originally Posted by turtle777
Why do you hate to say it ?
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Cuz someone saying Google sucks these days is like killing kittens.
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Well, at least Google will allow me to submit my site. Yahoo! just tells me that the submission failed because it timed out when trying to connect (the site loads just fine, and the time it took Yahoo! to tell me that it had timed out, from the time I clicked the submit button, was less than one second, so it can’t have tried very hard).
When I search for the name of the site in Google, it gives me the site as number one, and the place where a preliminary version of the site used to be as number two. In Yahoo!, the site comes at number ten, after a lot of random posts on forums and the likes.
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Originally Posted by turtle777
Why do you hate to say it ?
I was wondering the same thing.
I don't get the love affair with GOOG either. It's a good company but there is certainly no real justification for the fact that it is now worth more than IBM.
It looks like it's starting to venture into pre-bust AOL territory in terms of stock value...
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I would not be opposed to switching to Yahoo as a main search engine if its results were consistently better than Google's, but Yahoo always seems to let me down. It seems to me that Yahoo has always lagged behind the competition, long before even Google became prevalent. Google News is far superior to Yahoo News, although I prefer Yahoo mail to Gmail. Google isn't the best tool for every job - I have found Google Video to be far behind You Tube - but as a text engine I believe it to be the best around.
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What the hell kinda comment was that?
and on top of that who the hell cares!
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Originally Posted by Salty
Hey everyone... I found out why SWG pushes the gay adgenda so much...
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Gay clipart?
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just get it linked on a popular site, like this one 
put a link in your sig and see how quickly google will find it.
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Been noticing this, as well. Whatever to do!
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i don't care, my site comes up 2 on google and 1 on yahoo.
but seriously, i haven't had any problems with google finding my site, and google's results have worked well for me.
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like phantomdragonz said, what the hell has that got to do with anything and who cares? rock on for SWG for making money.
@SWG, your new design looks good, but i really liked the previous one. the angled one in the corner, very original.
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Originally Posted by mdc
i don't care, my site comes up 2 on google and 1 on yahoo.
but seriously, i haven't had any problems with google finding my site, and google's results have worked well for me.
Err...wanted to be in before edit.
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What took you so long, Sherlock ?
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Originally Posted by phantomdragonz
What the hell kinda comment was that?
and on top of that who the hell cares!
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I decided to check out his list of clients... and it just seemed funny that they all seem to be in some way related to homosexuality...
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What's funny about that? Were you expecting a bunch of tit mags? Hunters weekly?
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Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun
I know everyone is having this love affair over Google. They are a cool company but when i comes to having recent and updated content appear when you search for something they sorta suck.
Google works by seeing who links to your page, and how important the pages are that link to you. Yahoo is much simpler, which may be better in some situations and worse in others.
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Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun
davidivkovic.com
Next time, please post with a 'WARNING: head shots' or something. I'm not making a commentary about you being ugly or anything, I just think that head shots look ridiculous.
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Originally Posted by Salty
I decided to check out his list of clients... and it just seemed funny that they all seem to be in some way related to homosexuality...
All of them? Like Freedent gum? Pizza Hut? Microsoft? FedEx? VISA? Perhaps you meant "some?"
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Originally Posted by wallinbl
Next time, please post with a 'WARNING: head shots' or something. I'm not making a commentary about you being ugly or anything, I just think that head shots look ridiculous.
It's not him- it's someone he did a site for.
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SWG did you do all of those pieces? If so you've gotten better than you were the last time I looked at your site. 
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Originally Posted by Salty
Are you completely ****ing retarded or what?
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Originally Posted by Salty
I decided to check out his list of clients... and it just seemed funny that they all seem to be in some way related to homosexuality...
Because I worked at a gay magazine for 3 years you tart.
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Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun
Because I worked at a gay magazine for 3 years you tart.
I'm still at a loss how Salty missed that.
It's not like you never posted that before.
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Originally Posted by wallinbl
Next time, please post with a 'WARNING: head shots' or something. I'm not making a commentary about you being ugly or anything, I just think that head shots look ridiculous.
You get the second most retarded person award in this thread. I am supposed to post warnings before I post a link to a site that has an actors headshots because you have a phobia?
I am speechless that there are people like you in the world.
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Originally Posted by moodymonster
just get it linked on a popular site, like this one
put a link in your sig and see how quickly google will find it.
I had it there for 3 years, google didn't find ****.
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put up a robots.txt file. that usually helps speed things along with the search engines.
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I always give any sites I do a nudge by submitting them to Google manually. The Google Dance cycle used to be around 28 days (could be old info) and things usually got indexed faster than that, even with only modest links to the site.
http://www.google.com/addurl/
Maybe its placebo, but has worked for me.
(davidivkovic.com is second in results now, btw.)
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Originally Posted by Judge_Fire
I always give any sites I do a nudge by submitting them to Google manually. The Google Dance cycle used to be around 28 days (could be old info) and things usually got indexed faster than that, even with only modest links to the site.
http://www.google.com/addurl/
Maybe its placebo, but has worked for me.
(davidivkovic.com is second in results now, btw.)
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I've did that, 3 months later no dice.
yahoo does it just fine without me even asking.
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Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun
You get the second most retarded person award in this thread. I am supposed to post warnings before I post a link to a site that has an actors headshots because you have a phobia?
I am speechless that there are people like you in the world.
You lack a sense of humor.
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Originally Posted by wallinbl
You lack a sense of humor.
You're the first person ever to say that to me. With the other retarded comments i.e. Superchicken how can I tell how is serious and who isn't?
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Originally Posted by Oisín
Well, at least Google will allow me to submit my site. Yahoo! just tells me that the submission failed because it timed out when trying to connect (the site loads just fine, and the time it took Yahoo! to tell me that it had timed out, from the time I clicked the submit button, was less than one second, so it can’t have tried very hard).
I had the same experience when trying to submit my site.
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Originally Posted by mdc
@SWG, your new design looks good, but i really liked the previous one. the angled one in the corner, very original.
Thank you. I liked the old one also because it was original but you wouldn't believe the amount of people who thought it was a bug or something. I really do have to cater to the lowest common denominator.
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I much prefer the newer site. I know the old one wasn't a bug, but it kinda looked like one, especially on small screens. 
Originally Posted by Salty
I decided to check out his list of clients... and it just seemed funny that they all seem to be in some way related to homosexuality...
I swear, it always seems like Superchic[k]en has tunnel vision for this sort of thing. I wonder what that means...
I'll have to tell my friends who work for Microsoft... 
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Originally Posted by Eug Wanker
I swear, it always seems like Superchic[k]en has tunnel vision for this sort of thing. I wonder what that means...
It is beyond me also. Yes in the PRINT section there are a few gay clients but what do you expect when working at a gay mag for 3 years. I still get clients call me to do work for them and I can't see a reason not to.
And as others have mentioned I am at a loss when looking here how someone ignores Microsoft, Pizzahut, freedent gum, VISA, Compaq, Dell and FedEx only sees gay.
http://www.bitflydesign.com/clients.html
But then again everyone here knows what a closet case Chicken is.
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Originally Posted by Eug Wanker
I swear, it always seems like Superchic[k]en has tunnel vision for this sort of thing. I wonder what that means...
I think it means there's a magazine subscription in his future.
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Originally Posted by xi_hyperon
I think it means there's a magazine subscription in his future.
It is free so if he really wants it I can have them mail him it bi-weekly.
But there is actually a gay theme magazine in his home town Calgary.
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Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun
egsists
Is this a joke?
Also, wtf with all the gay remarks on this page?
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Is this a joke?
Also, wtf with all the gay remarks on this page?
No that is a typo. And the gay comments is exactly what I have to live with on a normal basis, luckily I don't care.
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As a totally scientific test to see which one is better, I put in a lyric from my favorite song into both to see which one gave me better results on the first page. Yahoo found three pages with the lyrics. Google found those three and one more. Google wins!
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Originally Posted by Salty
Despite your off topic and irrelevant comments, I'd say he does a pretty good job at what he does regardless of who his clients are.
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Originally Posted by Salty
If it weren't for gay people... he wouldn't have any clients...
Before I drop it I would like to add:
That is like saying without MacNN nobody would talk to you.
If you would like to prove me wrong add up the number of gay clients to straight. Gay is prob 15% so it is rather insulting of you to say if it wasn't for my gay clients I wouldn't have any work.
Not to mention is it wasn't for gay people you wouldn't have half the TV shows to watch or half the clothes you wear.
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Not to mention is it wasn't for gay people you wouldn't have half the TV shows to watch or half the clothes you wear.
I have a feeling SWG overestimates the quality of Salty's wardrobe.
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