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Should humans be held responsible for their actions?
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Jan 26, 2006, 01:28 AM
 
You know I was thinking, humans don't have 100% free will. A lot of our behavior is influenced both by our internal biology as well as external factors. Stanley Milgram proved that once under an authority, humans will generally act against their own set of ethical principles. Richard Dawkins proved that our internal biology has a tremendous effect on the way we interact with the environment and other humans.

Could it be true, to some extent, that we are not 100% responsible for our actions, that sometimes it is society or our genetics that is to blame?
     
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Jan 26, 2006, 01:31 AM
 
Some people do horrible things in the name of something else...

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Jan 26, 2006, 01:32 AM
 
Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun
Some people do horrible things in the name of something else...
Exactly, so then are they, as an individual, fully responsible for carrying out that action in the name of a particular ideology, organization/heirachy?
     
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Jan 26, 2006, 01:35 AM
 
It's the fekkin devil.

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Jan 26, 2006, 01:38 AM
 
You are responsible for what you do. You have the power to overcome your "instincts". To blame "external factors" or to hold the belief that "society or our genetics that is to blame" is pathetic. A cop-out.

People need to be held responsible for their actions and pay the penalty for bad behavior.
     
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Jan 26, 2006, 01:39 AM
 
Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun
Some people do horrible things in the name of something else...
You've certainly said that correctly.

To do something "in the name of" is simply a cop-out.

I'm glad you finally recognize that.
     
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Jan 26, 2006, 01:40 AM
 
Originally Posted by Rolling Bones
It's the fekkin devil.

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Prayer is a good place to start.
     
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Jan 26, 2006, 01:44 AM
 
The Pope made me do it.
     
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Jan 26, 2006, 01:45 AM
 
The current one or Pope JP?
     
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Jan 26, 2006, 01:53 AM
 
The evil nazi one. Dude, don't open the ark... it'll make your face melt off!
     
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Jan 26, 2006, 01:57 AM
 
There are any number of things that influence our actions. Morally and legally, we recognize that some things are so overpowering that they diminish a person's responsibility for his actions (psychosis, for example). However, in order for human interaction to function, we must assume that for the most part we have control of our actions. It's essentially impossible to prove conclusively whether we're simply the culmination of past events, but it's basically a moot point — we have to assume we are sentient beings.
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Jan 26, 2006, 02:00 AM
 
Originally Posted by JoshuaZ
The evil nazi one. Dude, don't open the ark... it'll make your face melt off!
Oh yeah... he had control of me for a while too.

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Jan 26, 2006, 02:38 AM
 
Well regardless of whether they are responsible or not, they still need to be removed from society for some duration of time so that society can continue to function.
     
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Jan 26, 2006, 03:39 AM
 
Don't forget the Space Pope!

     
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Jan 26, 2006, 06:06 AM
 
Originally Posted by macintologist
Could it be true, to some extent, that we are not 100% responsible for our actions, that sometimes it is society or our genetics that is to blame?
Of course. This is why our legal system recognizes extenuating circumstances.
     
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Jan 26, 2006, 10:24 AM
 
Yes.
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Jan 26, 2006, 03:50 PM
 
Each of us should take responsibility for our own actions. It's wrong to blame others, when something is our own fault.

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Jan 26, 2006, 03:52 PM
 
What about people with a mental disorder, say schizophrenia?
     
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Jan 26, 2006, 03:58 PM
 
Awesome.

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Jan 27, 2006, 03:49 AM
 
Originally Posted by zerostar
What about people with a mental disorder, say schizophrenia?
In that case, Phil should be held responsible. Or possibly Gary.
     
   
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