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ajprice · Jan 26, 2006, 04:35 AM

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Original DS : 148 x 85 x 28mm 275g
DS Lite: 133 x 73.9 x 21.55mm 218g

Japan Release: March 2, 2006

Looks good to me and fixes a lot of issues with the DS, ties in well with the look of the Revolution and GBA Micro too.

JoshuaZ · Jan 26, 2006, 04:54 AM

More taste less filling. Mmmm.

screamingFit · Jan 26, 2006, 05:25 AM

Not crazy about white. I hear the JP release will have three colors, though so I hope they bring them stateside.

Hawkeye_a · Jan 26, 2006, 07:51 AM

Curse you Nintendo. Now i am going to have to get one when it comes out.

It looks very Apple-esq .... iBook-ish even. very cool.

Cheers

leehotti · Jan 26, 2006, 07:52 AM

If they made something like this that had ever SNES game on it ever, I'd consider it. But if it's just another gameboy... no thanks.

MindFad · Jan 26, 2006, 08:13 AM

Wow, that looks sweet. Very Revolution controller-esque.

Shocking fact: I will be buying one. And giving my old DS to my friend, of course.

Originally Posted by leehotti

If they made something like this that had ever SNES game on it ever, I'd consider it. But if it's just another gameboy... no thanks.

You could always get a GBA flash cart and put emulators on it. My friend does that. NES, and I believe SNES, too. You need a Windows machine to get the stuff on there, but that's the only minor catch (aside from getting ROMs).

ajprice · Jan 26, 2006, 08:25 AM

It looks good to me, its launched in Japan in March, but whenever they decide that the rest of the world is good enough to have it, I'll be getting it. I'll probably trade my current silver DS in for it, no point in having 2 DS hanging around here.

Leia's Left Bun · Jan 26, 2006, 08:42 AM

Nintendo is great at selling people the same product over and over and over.

First the large, non-backlite GBA, then the DS in 20 different colours, the gameboy Micro, GBA and now the DS because it is big and ghastly and was rushed.

20% thinner and the "innovative iBook white" people will sell there DS and buy the same hardware again

mdc · Jan 26, 2006, 08:48 AM

I haven't been following the DS all that much lately and yesterday I noticed that there is a 'sequel' to the GBA Mario & Luigi RPG out for the DS. I was going to buy a DS after work yesterday but I figured I'd wait until tomorrow. I'm really glad I waited, this new one is really nice, and i'll be buying one for sure.

Diggory Laycock · Jan 26, 2006, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by MindFad

You could always get a GBA flash cart and put emulators on it. My friend does that. NES, and I believe SNES, too. You need a Windows machine to get the stuff on there, but that's the only minor catch (aside from getting ROMs).

No you don't - I... um.... know a bloke.... who has a ROM flasher and you can use a Mac to flash it - it just takes some detective work (and it's not pretty - it's a non-GUI app.)

http://www.gameboy-advance.net/fal_s...nce_readme.htm

I think it only works with the Visoly Flasher - which may well not be available any more.

Stradlater · Jan 26, 2006, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun

Nintendo is great at selling people the same product over and over and over.

First the large, non-backlite GBA, then the DS in 20 different colours, the gameboy Micro, GBA and now the DS because it is big and ghastly and was rushed.

20% thinner and the "innovative iBook white" people will sell there DS and buy the same hardware again

didn't you used to be a fanboy?

MindFad · Jan 26, 2006, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by Diggory Laycock

No you don't - I... um.... know a bloke.... who has a ROM flasher and you can use a Mac to flash it - it just takes some detective work (and it's not pretty - it's a non-GUI app.)

http://www.gameboy-advance.net/fal_s...nce_readme.htm

I think it only works with the Visoly Flasher - which may well not be available any more.

Sweet. Thanks for the linkage ... I mean, thank your friend for me.

ort888 · Jan 26, 2006, 10:21 AM

I'll get one. I hate the size of the DS. It's so clunky.

I don't like the white though. I hope they put out one in black.

leehotti · Jan 26, 2006, 11:30 AM

Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun

Nintendo is great at selling people the same product over and over and over.

First the large, non-backlite GBA, then the DS in 20 different colours, the gameboy Micro, GBA and now the DS because it is big and ghastly and was rushed.

20% thinner and the "innovative iBook white" people will sell there DS and buy the same hardware again

Yeah that's pretty much how I feel. LOOK A NEW COLOR! BUY IT! QUICK!

Does it do anything better than your existing one? Nope. But people buy it anyway. Consumers are idiots, hence why I can't wait to get in industrial design degree.

Jim Paradise · Jan 26, 2006, 11:34 AM

Some people don't own a DS, and this certainly makes it look a lot more like an attractive purchase.

Leia's Left Bun · Jan 26, 2006, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Stradlater

didn't you used to be a fanboy?

Ya, till a year after the Cube came out and I realized it was worse than the N64. The Nintendo DiStraction and Revolution turned me off huge.

mdc · Jan 26, 2006, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by leehotti

Yeah that's pretty much how I feel. LOOK A NEW COLOR! BUY IT! QUICK!

Does it do anything better than your existing one? Nope. But people buy it anyway. Consumers are idiots, hence why I can't wait to get in industrial design degree.

According to this article, the DS Lite can adjust the backlight of the screen.

DS Lite's biggest new technical feature is its updated set of backlit LCD screens. The system is brighter overall, and will give the user the ability to select from four different levels of brightness for viewing and/or battery consumption.

mdc · Jan 26, 2006, 12:20 PM

sorry, double post

Leia's Left Bun · Jan 26, 2006, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by mdc

According to this article, the DS Lite can adjust the backlight of the screen.

OMG HOLY ****! That is ****ing incredible!!! I an no longer surprised that they are coming out with a new version as 1 year ago when the first DS came out there was no such technology available. Nintendo is brilliant!

"Am I the only one who thinks that Nintendo is putting out too many variations on the same theme? Don’t get me wrong, I love how creative the company has been of late, especially in a time when the game market is all about better graphics and more sequels. But I only have room on my desk for so many portable consoles.

As it is I never know if I should carry around my Micro and my DS. Both play GBA games. I like my Micro; it’s slick, it feels nice, but it’s also redundant.

It’s only been a year and a few months since the DS hit, do we really need another one? Sure it plays the same games, but this glut of form factors is starting to drive me nuts. And all of those people who purchased their DS in the last six months, heck, maybe in the past year, are going to feel like they got short changed.

And in the long run, this is only going to hurt early sales of Nintendo portables. Nintendo is teaching us to wait and see. Wait and see if the price is going to drop in three months, wait and see if a better design is coming down the pipeline. Wait and see if all of those early adopters are going to be short changed.

Microsoft is known for releasing software that still isn’t perfected and then chasing it with upgrades and updates. I don’t want Nintendo to earn a name for itself doing the same thing with hardware. "

http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ds-lite...ing-150900.php

Busemann · Jan 26, 2006, 12:46 PM

I have seen the lite!

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goMac · Jan 26, 2006, 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun

Nintendo is great at selling people the same product over and over and over.

First the large, non-backlite GBA, then the DS in 20 different colours, the gameboy Micro, GBA and now the DS because it is big and ghastly and was rushed.

20% thinner and the "innovative iBook white" people will sell there DS and buy the same hardware again

Funny, I can think of a company who's name begins with S and ends with y that does the exact same thing.

Hawkeye_a · Jan 26, 2006, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

Funny, I can think of a company who's name begins with S and ends with y that does the exact same thing.

hehe...i can think of yet another company whos name starts with M and ends with icrosoft, which actually repackages other companie's ideas. but there's nothing wrong with that, cause they do it in HDDDD. lol

TheMule · Jan 26, 2006, 06:36 PM

Nintendo is great at selling people the same product over and over and over.
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Yeah Sony never came our with a smaller Psone or PS2?

Busemann · Jan 26, 2006, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by TheMule

Nintendo is great at selling people the same product over and over and over.
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Yeah Sony never came our with a smaller Psone or PS2?

After five years, yes.

TheMule · Jan 26, 2006, 06:44 PM

So its ok to do it with a obsolete product?

how many iPods do you have?

TheMule · Jan 26, 2006, 06:45 PM

So its ok to do it with a obsolete product?

how many iPods do you have?

Leia's Left Bun · Jan 26, 2006, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by TheMule

Nintendo is great at selling people the same product over and over and over.
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Yeah Sony never came our with a smaller Psone or PS2?

Exactly, there is one born every minute.

And yes, sony does it, after 5 friggin years and a lower price!

As far as consumer electronics go cellphones are the one thing pretty much everyone has and they are only replaced ever THREE years on average with a much improved version. Nintendo products are replaced every 1.5 years with a marginally better product or even just a different colour.

Leia's Left Bun · Jan 26, 2006, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Hawkeye_a

hehe...i can think of yet another company whos name starts with M and ends with icrosoft, which actually repackages other companie's ideas. but there's nothing wrong with that, cause they do it in HDDDD. lol

and how does that negatively effect the consumer or his/her money?

goMac · Jan 26, 2006, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by Leia's Left Bun

and how does that negatively effect the consumer or his/her money?

That would be the point.

forkies · Jan 26, 2006, 07:38 PM

jesus what is the frickin problem. so a company redesigns a product to make it better & give consumers the newest technology while keeping the price the same. apple does the same thing by adding new features to a design every year or so.

re: Leia's Left Bun, chill dude, what's with you and disliking change? i think this is the same as your thread about apple bringing new technology to the market. maybe you feel left out if you don't have the latest & greatest?

Kevin · Jan 26, 2006, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by forkies

re: Leia's Left Bun, chill dude, what's with you and disliking change? i think this is the same as your thread about apple bringing new technology to the market. maybe you feel left out if you don't have the latest & greatest?

Maybe.

Leia's Left Bun · Jan 26, 2006, 08:14 PM

Originally Posted by goMac

That would be the point.

I'm not following. If Microsoft copies an analogue controller how does it cost me more or have any sort of negative impact?

Albert Pujols · Jan 26, 2006, 08:15 PM

looks like a check book.

Leia's Left Bun · Jan 26, 2006, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Albert Pujols

looks like a check book.

ha ha, especially with the pen.

But I think you are supposed to say it is as sexy as an iBook (because it is white).

Salty · Jan 26, 2006, 08:22 PM

Looks pretty nice, I would have liked to see them round the corners around the top screen a bit, I imagine it would make it look better when opened. Don't really need a DS for anything, if they ever offer basic PDA functionality in it then I probably would pick up one of these. I really am surprised that they haven't offered any sort of merging of this with a PDA, and yes I know Nintendo loves their games and only games philosophy which is good to some degree, but it'd be nice to be able to have things like my contacts sync wirelessly, some photos, a calendar, and be able to input data.

Leia's Left Bun · Jan 26, 2006, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Salty

Looks pretty nice, I would have liked to see them round the corners around the top screen a bit

Buy this one then get the rounded corner version in another 6 months.

lavar78 · Jan 26, 2006, 08:55 PM

It's a nice revision. I'm glad Nintendo is still concerned about portability. Thanks to Animal Crossing, I've played my DS every day for over a month.

- - e r i k - - · Jan 27, 2006, 04:26 AM

Oh noes! Nintendo updates a product! Like this doesn't happen in EVERY frickin' industry. There are things to bag ol' N for but this isn't it.

Hawkeye_a · Jan 27, 2006, 04:27 AM

Originally Posted by forkies

jesus what is the frickin problem. so a company redesigns a product to make it better & give consumers the newest technology while keeping the price the same. apple does the same thing by adding new features to a design every year or so.

re: Leia's Left Bun, chill dude, what's with you and disliking change? i think this is the same as your thread about apple bringing new technology to the market. maybe you feel left out if you don't have the latest & greatest?

Hes got a real problem with Nintendo. he calls himself a fan eventhough he complains about literally everything the company does.

If there's no backwards compatibility he complains about that, if there is, it isnt good enough. if they make a game with less emphasis on graphics, he compains, if there is heavy emphasis on graphics it isnt good enough, etc,etc... Notice how he bitches and moans about the redesigned DS, but has no problem withe the obsolete PSone or Slim PS2.

If any of you read any of his opinions on video games, just ignore it, he seems to be highly opinionated without any justification.

Cheers

Hawkeye_a · Jan 27, 2006, 05:56 PM

A size comparison....

Cheers

hayesk · Jan 27, 2006, 07:48 PM

Wow, you Nintendo bashers are incredible. Nintendo updates their products and you act as if it's a bad thing. Why is it bad to update your products? Is it bad to attract new customers? Is it bad if your customers buy your products again and again?

Geez, MS makes a new smaller "S Controller". Sony makes PSOne and the smaller PS2? I don't see Nintendo fans harping on that.

MindFad · Jan 27, 2006, 09:28 PM

Yeah, I never see people having sh¡t fits every time a new and smaller iPod comes out.

Hey, nice comparison shot. Wow, I didn't realize it was that dramatic. Niceness.

Judge_Fire · Jan 28, 2006, 04:37 AM

Time to finally get one

J

leehotti · Jan 28, 2006, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by hayesk

Wow, you Nintendo bashers are incredible. Nintendo updates their products and you act as if it's a bad thing. Why is it bad to update your products? Is it bad to attract new customers? Is it bad if your customers buy your products again and again?

Geez, MS makes a new smaller "S Controller". Sony makes PSOne and the smaller PS2? I don't see Nintendo fans harping on that.

Sony updated it's PS2 after FIVE YEARS. Nintendo comes out with different colored portables or 'advance' or 'backlit' or 'type r' models of existing products after only a few months. The worst part is they offer no benefit.

strictlyplaid · Jan 28, 2006, 12:56 PM

SWG and Ca$h's arguments only work if the new editions are mostly re-sales to people who already own the original model. Maybe they are, but I'd need to see some evidence of that. A lot of people will buy something (new) simply on the basis of how it looks or how popular it is. (iPod, iMac, and PowerBook anyone?)

porieux · 05:58 AM

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strictlyplaid · Jan 28, 2006, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by porieux

I now have both a DS and a PSP and there is absolutely no question, the DS owns.
Only gripe is lack of WPA support, which is not a problem on the PSP...

Eh, I agreed with you before GTA and Star Wars Battlefront II were released. PSP2 level graphics on a handheld is pretty darned sweet.

DS is still a lot of fun, though, and I own more games for it.

I'd say they are about the same in terms of cost/benefit ratio.

lavar78 · Jan 29, 2006, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by leehotti

Sony updated it's PS2 after FIVE YEARS. Nintendo comes out with different colored portables or 'advance' or 'backlit' or 'type r' models of existing products after only a few months. The worst part is they offer no benefit.

Obviously! Who needs a backlight?

leehotti · Jan 29, 2006, 12:28 PM

Originally Posted by lavar78

Obviously! Who needs a backlight?

I played a REGULAR gameboy for years without one.

goMac · Jan 29, 2006, 12:38 PM

Originally Posted by leehotti

I played a REGULAR gameboy for years without one.

So the moral of the story is a backlight isn't better at all and not an upgrade?