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Feb 24, 2006, 10:21 AM
 
the "unexplainable thread" sparked my interest... what's your thoughts about "aliens"?

i believe it's crazy to think that we (earthlings) are the only people out there in the big-wide universe.

my boyfriend has a theory that "aliens" aren't necessarily extra-terrestrial, rather, evolved earthlings time traveling from the future.

what's your stance?
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 10:24 AM
 
I think they probably exsist somewhere but so far away it will never effect the human race in any way.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 10:29 AM
 
I believe in aliens.

I just think the human race is not "evolved" enough to be worthy of consideration by other
sentient life forms in the universe. I forget who said this but I agree with the sentiment.
"The surest sign of intelligent life in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us."
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Feb 24, 2006, 10:29 AM
 
Originally Posted by MrsLarry
my boyfriend has a theory that "aliens" aren't necessarily extra-terrestrial, rather, evolved earthlings time traveling from the future.
Somebody read Sphere.
But that wouldn't ake them aliens (unless he's implying thats what any unexplained phenomena is being caused by).

I believe its an inevitability that some type sentient extra-terrestrial life exists somewhere. The universe is ridiculously vast place. But none of them are here, no.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 10:30 AM
 
I'm w/ demibob. It's likely there is life elsewhere in the universe, but doubtful that our lifetimes will ever see the existences.
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Feb 24, 2006, 10:32 AM
 
Aliens probably exist. People who see them are probably crazy.
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Feb 24, 2006, 10:32 AM
 
Good movie.

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Feb 24, 2006, 10:40 AM
 
Originally Posted by ort888
Good movie.
Damn. You beat me to it.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 10:43 AM
 
They could be:

Technically advanced, with ways of getting past that old "speed of light" limits and are visiting us, abducting us, mutilating our cows, messing with our earth defenses, and laughing about us all the way home.

Time travellers living elsewhere that are our distant relatives, coming back to see what earth was like before they moved off the planet, abducting us, mutilating our cows, messing with our earth defenses, and laughing about us all the way home.

our imagination running wild. But what about them cows, the crop circles, and the 3 versions of what happened at Roswell. (which two are lies?)
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 10:45 AM
 
Originally Posted by Dakar
Somebody read Sphere.
hmm, no, no sphere, just a sciencey kinda guy... he's apparently not the only person with the time traveler theory.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 10:48 AM
 
No doubt there's others out there, I don't think they're visiting us. Most of the close encounter stories are probably a result of sleep paralysis combined with the projection of a new boogeyman archetype, sort of like the goblins and fairies people used to "see".

But I find myself constantly on the verge of giving up that theory everytime I watch Wolf Blitzer. There's something going on there.

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Feb 24, 2006, 11:12 AM
 
I think Alien was a good movie, Aliens was okay and then they really dropped quickly after that.
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Feb 24, 2006, 11:35 AM
 
Ah, but what's better — Alien or Predator? And why wasn't there ever a Predators?
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Feb 24, 2006, 11:37 AM
 
For me I believe there are billions of planets that have intelligent life on them. I don't think Aliens are visiting earth on a regular basis though.

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Feb 24, 2006, 11:38 AM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
Ah, but what's better — Alien or Predator? And why wasn't there ever a Predators?

They each have their own qualities but mixed together they totally suck.

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Feb 24, 2006, 11:51 AM
 
they do the jobs no one else wants.

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Feb 24, 2006, 11:58 AM
 
Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker
They each have their own qualities but mixed together they totally suck.
I agree, Alien and Predator were great movies, maybe we can see AVPVG (alien vs predator vs godzilla)
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Feb 24, 2006, 12:03 PM
 
Your past and the future are full of aliens like yourself all existing together.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 12:33 PM
 
Here's a picture my Dad took back in the 60s. It still creeps him out:

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Feb 24, 2006, 12:44 PM
 
I would love to think that there are aliens... but I'm guessing I'll never know for sure.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 01:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
Here's a picture my Dad took back in the 60s. It still creeps him out:

Nothing a little color correcting and healing brush tool can't fix.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 01:41 PM
 
I don't see any aliens in that picture.
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Feb 24, 2006, 01:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
I don't see any aliens in that picture.
Look closer.

     
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Feb 24, 2006, 01:47 PM
 
Originally Posted by MrsLarry
the "unexplainable thread" sparked my interest... what's your thoughts about "aliens"?

i believe it's crazy to think that we (earthlings) are the only people out there in the big-wide universe.

my boyfriend has a theory that "aliens" aren't necessarily extra-terrestrial, rather, evolved earthlings time traveling from the future.

what's your stance?
Ok, I'm with your boyfriends theory! I've been thinking the same for several years now...
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Feb 24, 2006, 01:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by andreas_g4
Look closer.

I saw the line where the arm was before I noticed the head. I about jumped out of my chair when I did.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 01:50 PM
 
Originally Posted by MrsLarry
the "unexplainable thread" sparked my interest... what's your thoughts about "aliens"?

i believe it's crazy to think that we (earthlings) are the only people out there in the big-wide universe.

my boyfriend has a theory that "aliens" aren't necessarily extra-terrestrial, rather, evolved earthlings time traveling from the future.

what's your stance?
Or a parallel universe.

As for life 'out there' we'll never know. Distances are toooo far.

There probably is life on other faraway places. There are an infinite number of stars/suns.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 01:54 PM
 
just think....... we go out at night and look up to see all those stars, some with planets around them , and SOME of those planets have living beings on them STARING BACK AT US!
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 01:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
I don't see any aliens in that picture.
they are behind the thick bushes, trimming them.

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Feb 24, 2006, 02:15 PM
 
The universe is so big it seems unlikely there isn't life somewhere else.

The universe is so big it seems unlikely we'll ever find any.

The director's cut of "Aliens" sucks, be sure to watch the original theatrical release.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 02:19 PM
 
I do believe there is "life" out there, it not might be how we define life.. could be like a virus or something. I really doubt there is intelligent life though..that idea would probably conflict with my religious beliefs anyway.
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Feb 24, 2006, 02:24 PM
 
It's one big hoax.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 02:31 PM
 
God doesn't make room for life on other planets?
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 02:31 PM
 
aliens....of course


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Feb 24, 2006, 02:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by Albert Pujols
I do believe there is "life" out there, it not might be how we define life.. could be like a virus or something. I really doubt there is intelligent life though..that fact would probably conflict with my religious beliefs anyway.

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Originally Posted by BlueSky
er.. I phrased that wrong. My bad.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 04:23 PM
 
I've seen a "cigar" ufo with 5 bright lights accompanying it.

edit: after a bit of googling (id seen this pic on the net before)
this is EXACTLY what I saw, but the ship and the lights were separate.

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Feb 24, 2006, 04:45 PM
 
I believe they exist, I also believe that they won't ever end up bothering us.

But also... Good movie.
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Feb 24, 2006, 04:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by Albert Pujols
I do believe there is "life" out there, it not might be how we define life.. could be like a virus or something. I really doubt there is intelligent life though..that idea would probably conflict with my religious beliefs anyway.
yeah, because with roughly 100 BILLION stars in our galaxy, and roughly 100 BILLION galaxies that we can see so far, we are the only possible intelligent life...makes a lot of sense, right?
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 05:24 PM
 
I'm a devout Christ Follower and I have no problem with the idea of God making life in other parts of the massive universe He created. I see no contradiction whatsoever with this possibility as it relates to my Faith or Jesus.

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Originally Posted by RAILhead
I'm a devout Christ Follower and I have no problem with the idea of God making life in other parts of the massive universe He created. I see no contradiction whatsoever with this possibility as it relates to my Faith or Jesus.

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Agreed. I dont devote myself to any certain religion, although I do believe in the existence of God. I see no reason why there cannot be a God and alien life both. Having seen what I would consider alien craft after living on military bases for almost 20 years (so yes..I know what planes, blimps, etc look like and how they behave), aliens are 1 up on God in the proof department right now in my book.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 05:31 PM
 
Originally Posted by meelk
yeah, because with roughly 100 BILLION stars in our galaxy, and roughly 100 BILLION galaxies that we can see so far, we are the only possible intelligent life...makes a lot of sense, right?
So many distinct factors had to occur all at once to produce life on earth. We are the perfect distance away from the sun, we have water, a clear atmosphere.. etc. The fact that humans evolved from single celled creatures is remarkable by itself. But nevermind that, it's amazing that life was generated from non-living matter in the first place.

I don't doubt that there is life on other planets, but I'm skeptical about whether it's intelligent or not. And if it is intelligent, then how intelligent is it? Is it as "smart" as we are.. or does it have the cognitive ability of a dolphin?
     
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Originally Posted by Albert Pujols
So many distinct factors had to occur all at once to produce life on earth. We are the perfect distance away from the sun, we have water, a clear atmosphere.. etc. The fact that humans evolved from single celled creatures is remarkable by itself. But nevermind that, it's amazing that life was generated from non-living matter in the first place.

I don't doubt that there is life on other planets, but I'm skeptical about whether it's intelligent or not. And if it is intelligent, then how intelligent is it? Is it as "smart" as we are.. or does it have the cognitive ability of a dolphin?
yes. I'm aware of the various conditions required for life, there is a well known scientific formula for it (I forget the name), which considers most factors in general and (if I remember correctly) says our galaxy alone should have hundreds of species of intelligent life. I have no problem with any of that, the only issue you have is how many of those species are advanced enough to not only be space faring, but totally dominate physics for space travel through things like worm holes, folding space, 'sub space', etc. THAT is the number that would be remarkably low.
Having seen what I personally have seen, I believe that number is at least 1

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Feb 24, 2006, 05:54 PM
 
Originally Posted by meelk
Agreed. I dont devote myself to any certain religion, although I do believe in the existence of God. I see no reason why there cannot be a God and alien life both. Having seen what I would consider alien craft after living on military bases for almost 20 years (so yes..I know what planes, blimps, etc look like and how they behave), aliens are 1 up on God in the proof department right now in my book.
So if one is religious how does the whole dinosaur and earth being 6 billion years old thing add up?

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Feb 24, 2006, 05:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by Y3a
our imagination running wild. But what about them cows, the crop circles, and the 3 versions of what happened at Roswell. (which two are lies?)
Them cows I say.
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They don't use anal probes. They consider that cruel.



They probe through the urethra.
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Feb 24, 2006, 06:18 PM
 
Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker
So if one is religious how does the whole dinosaur and earth being 6 billion years old thing add up?
What of it? I believe the earth is really freaking old and I believe there were dinosaurs all over it for long time.

Further, what's that got to do with God and jesus?
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Feb 24, 2006, 06:19 PM
 
Originally Posted by Rumor
They don't use anal probes. They consider that cruel.



They probe through the urethra.
That's just an STD test. Human penis is considered a delicacy known to increase sexual vitality in many species. We're not considered intelligent life.

We're not even sure where life on earth came from. But if it can happen once, it can happen again (from a different source or sometimes possibly from the same source.) Especially considering the trillions and trillions of chances there are out there for life. I wish I could be alive when one day humans do make contact with another species. Will they even have religion, and if so will they have the same gods, and if not will they kill us, convert us, or both? A lot of questions will be answered that day.
     
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Feb 24, 2006, 06:21 PM
 
Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker
So if one is religious how does the whole dinosaur and earth being 6 billion years old thing add up?
How did you read "I dont devote myself to any certain religion, although I do believe in the existence of God."
and think "he is a fundamentalist Christian who believes in a literal interpretation of their bible"?
     
 
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