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Cody Dawg · Mar 2, 2006, 01:39 PM

Video.

turtle777 · Mar 2, 2006, 01:42 PM

Doesn't play for me. Ah well, can't be too important.

-t

Cody Dawg · Mar 2, 2006, 01:47 PM

It works fine on any of my Macs including my son's 8-year old iMac.

Guess you should stop criticizing ShotgunEd in his thread about being cheap and maybe upgrade your system?

RAILhead · Mar 2, 2006, 01:50 PM

I don't know about the "ethical" implications, but anyone who participates — as far as I'm concerned — is a complete and utter idiot. I think it should outlawed and everyone there should receive a citation for animal cruelty.

turtle777 · Mar 2, 2006, 01:50 PM

No, I just don't install every plugin I would have to.

Binarymix · Mar 2, 2006, 01:53 PM

How bout a description instead of just a link.

Binarymix · Mar 2, 2006, 01:55 PM

Oh, and GetABlog®.

turtle777 · Mar 2, 2006, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by Binarymix

Oh, and GetABlog®.

Seconded, thirded and fourded.

-t

Cody Dawg · Mar 2, 2006, 02:06 PM

Now we know that "Binarymix" is really Randman.

Those "get a blog" comments are really funny.

I ask a question and you say "Get a blog?"

WTF?

Assclown.

Post somewhere else since you can't even watch the freaking video since your system is so outdated it can handle a plug-in or you're so moronic you don't know how to download plug-ins. All you can say is "get a blog."

Mastrap · Mar 2, 2006, 02:12 PM

Of course it's not moral. Assholes.
It's animal cruelty.

Binarymix · Mar 2, 2006, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Now we know that "Binarymix" is really Randman.

Those "get a blog" comments are really funny.

I ask a question and you say "Get a blog?"

WTF?

Assclown.

Post somewhere else since you can't even watch the freaking video since your system is so outdated it can handle a plug-in or you're so moronic you don't know how to download plug-ins. All you can say is "get a blog."

Actually I'm kmkkid.

I say get a blog for the same reason everyone else does. You post news stories which wrench at your very soul, time and time again. We can read the news, really, we have keyboards, and know how to type in cnn.com etc. and beleive it or not we have to power to follow these steps ourselves.

You were also lazy and just added a link, didnt give any comment and expect people to care.

As for your name calling, thats nice, very nice. Very lady like.

And telling other people to post elsewhere is kind of ironic.

Chuckit · Mar 2, 2006, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Now we know that "Binarymix" is really Randman.

Or maybe the other guy who had that same signature?"

BlueSky · Mar 2, 2006, 03:10 PM

I'll bet Anderson Cooper cries about this. Whatever it is. I can't see it.

turtle777 · Mar 2, 2006, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Now we know that "Binarymix" is really Randman.

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Or maybe the other guy who had that same signature?"

Now we know that Cody is mentally challenged

-t

Doofy · Mar 2, 2006, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

It works fine on any of my Macs including my son's 8-year old iMac.

Guess you should stop criticizing ShotgunEd in his thread about being cheap and maybe upgrade your system?

It's probably a bandwidth issue, not a "what's attached to the bandwidth" thing.

Doofy · Mar 2, 2006, 03:40 PM

Rabbit coursing? We've had the same thing for years here (but with hares, hence it being called "hare coursing" here).

Everyone who partakes in is it an asshole and should be taken out back for a beating.

FireWire · Mar 2, 2006, 04:38 PM

I can't see it either. I have the latest version of Windows Media Player (and I purposedly stay away from Flip4Mac), but I disable the plug-in because it tends to make Safari unstable/unresponsive. Normally it asks me if I want to open the file in the standalone application, but CNN blocks it preemptively.. Damn you CNN

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Those "get a blog" comments are really funny.
I ask a question and you say "Get a blog?"
WTF?

I'm surprised you begin to object to these comments now, as it has almost become a running gag aroung here. I understand most of them are to be taken with an humoristic twist, but nonetheless, they are mostly justified. This reply explains it very well:

Originally Posted by Binarymix

I say get a blog for the same reason everyone else does. You post news stories which wrench at your very soul, time and time again. We can read the news, really, we have keyboards, and know how to type in cnn.com etc. and beleive it or not we have to power to follow these steps ourselves.

You were also lazy and just added a link, didnt give any comment and expect people to care.

As for your name calling, thats nice, very nice. Very lady like.

And telling other people to post elsewhere is kind of ironic.

turtle777 · Mar 2, 2006, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by FireWire

I'm surprised you begin to object to these comments now, as it has almost become a running gag aroung here.

My thoughts exactly.

-t

waxcrash · Mar 2, 2006, 04:54 PM

I have no problem with it. Humans kill animals for sport.

hey!_Zeus · Mar 2, 2006, 05:03 PM

Americans love to kill living things.

Thread Grader · 08:00 PM

D-

Just a link with no comment displays minimal effort and direction. I see the question in the title, but are you just looking for yes or no answers, or do you wish members to expand in ways you didn't? The use of foul language in the defensive retort doesn't help either. Please be a bit more studious next time. It's no wonder why the thread deteriorated so rapidly

As for the video, it's disturbing.

wdlove · Mar 2, 2006, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Video.

Thank you for bringing this to our attention Cody. Those owners should be ashamed of themselves. This is mistreatment pure and simple.

Cody Dawg · Mar 2, 2006, 08:23 PM

Doofy:

Didn't Great Britain recently ban fox hunting as well?

Then there is this bastard who used a cat as target practice.

Hi WDLove! I'll have to iChat with you. I've been very, very busy lately. We just had a celebrity dog wash to raise money for animal rescue down here and we did well.

Doofy · Mar 2, 2006, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Doofy:

Didn't Great Britain recently ban fox hunting as well?

We banned fox hunting, yep. Not sure what good it's done, as they're still out there hunting due to some loopholes our idiot government left (example: the hunters can go drag hunting - chasing a scented rag dragged by a man - and if they kill a fox "accidentally" on the way it's still legal).

Not sure about the "as well" bit. I'm not entirely sure but I think hare coursing is still legal.

It all makes me

aberdeenwriter · Mar 2, 2006, 08:54 PM

This cat was shot with .177 pellets. For it to be shot 6 times it must be either a cat that feels no pain, slow to react or it was cornered or trapped and couldn't get away while a one at a time (usually) single shot CO2 or Air rifle/pellet pistol was cycled before each succeeding shot. Really, HOW many shots would you expect to get at a cat?

One.

And then it would be G O N E!

Furthermore, with the bird populations at risk from feral or pet cats allowed to run loose and the numbers of strays that are put to sleep needlessly, did anyone find out if this cat was spayed or neutered? The owner needs to be scolded. It's neglect, I tell you!

Maybe it was trying to get at the shooter's female in heat and this was the shooter's way of cooling Mushkie's ardor.

ambush · Mar 2, 2006, 08:56 PM

Completely ethical. Animals killing each others.

Doofy · Mar 2, 2006, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by aberdeenwriter

Furthermore, with the bird populations at risk from feral or pet cats allowed to run loose

That's a heap of government propaganda crap. At least from my experience.

What's actually going on, here at least, is that human habitat is expanding and simultaneously changing. Because of work/time/life balance issues, very well manicured and "hard" gardens are becoming popular (because they're easier to maintain). Birds don't like this type of habitat, so that's why you don't see them at urban observation points - hence they're reported as "at risk".

I have five cats who all run free for the vast majority of the time (their territory doesn't extend past my land). They've had like one bird between them in the last two years - and that was a bird which accidentally got too low when it was dive-bombing one of them for fun. Birds are way too much effort - mice are much easier.

sek929 · Mar 2, 2006, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by hey!_Zeus

Americans love to kill living things.

Damn those Americans™

aberdeenwriter · Mar 2, 2006, 10:23 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

That's a heap of government propaganda crap. At least from my experience.

What's actually going on, here at least, is that human habitat is expanding and simultaneously changing. Because of work/time/life balance issues, very well manicured and "hard" gardens are becoming popular (because they're easier to maintain). Birds don't like this type of habitat, so that's why you don't see them at urban observation points - hence they're reported as "at risk".

I have five cats who all run free for the vast majority of the time (their territory doesn't extend past my land). They've had like one bird between them in the last two years - and that was a bird which accidentally got too low when it was dive-bombing one of them for fun. Birds are way too much effort - mice are much easier.

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ReggieX · Mar 2, 2006, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

It works fine on any of my Macs including my son's 8-year old iMac.

:

Stop posting empty posts and describe what you're linking to for those who may not be able to watch right away.

Doofy · Mar 2, 2006, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by aberdeenwriter

Results 1 - 30 of about 309 for housecats and wildlife a dilemma.

1) Most of those links are repeating the exact same study...

2) ...which was probably carried out by dog owners.

3) American cats must be seriously different than my cats then. Really, it's ultra-rare that my cats get a bird.

volcano · Mar 2, 2006, 11:48 PM

Originally Posted by ambush

Completely ethical. Animals killing each other.

No.

This isn't a natural thing here - this is recreational sport. Big difference. By the time these dogs reach the fields, they become blood-hungry savages. The owners let the dogs stare down the rabbits for countless minutes prior to their release, so it enrages the animal to capture and kill the rabbit with even more aggression and overall anger.

What do the owners do? Stand back and "enjoy" it. That's not natural. That's barbaric and this "sport" should be banned.

What ever happened to playing catch with your dog on a Saturday morning at your local park with his/her favorite toy? Can't they think of something else to do? Geesh.

tooki · Mar 3, 2006, 01:06 AM

I think we have bigger things to worry about than a few stupid rabbits (no offense, but they are pretty dumb).

tooki

FireWire · Mar 3, 2006, 01:14 AM

Well, I still couldn't see the video, but from what I understand, it's like a dog race, but using real rabbits as a target (which are subsequently killed/eaten)? It's difficult to settle, because there are good arguments from both sides of the fence. On one side, they outlawed dog fights because they were unethical, so consequently they should ban this practice on the same grounds. But on the other hand, as it has been pointed out, animals kill each others all the time in the wild, so from that point of view, it is not more unethical than the Real Life™ is.

But as the original question only targets the ethical side, I'd say this is indeed unethical. As for the guy who shot the cat, he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, which is far too lenient for this kind of offense/mental sickness. Shooting at deer and ducks is one thing, but shooting a household pet, which are like family members for many, is simply sick.

FireWire · Mar 3, 2006, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by tooki

(no offense, but they are pretty dumb).

You mean like this one?

(Not safe for animal lovers).

JoshuaZ · Mar 3, 2006, 03:24 AM

Bunnies deserve to die. They are so dumb.... we once had bunnies eat through the wires of our Christmas lights... because they were green.

Doofy · Mar 3, 2006, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by tooki

I think we have bigger things to worry about than a few stupid rabbits (no offense, but they are pretty dumb).

A culture's treatment of its animals is generally indicative of its overall social health. Details like this count.

alphamatrix · Mar 3, 2006, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by BlueSky

I'll bet Anderson Cooper cries about this.

Hehe. Thats great!
Aaron Brown was much better.

iLikebeer · Mar 3, 2006, 05:02 AM

Is that video like what the Pikeys did in Snatch?
Can't see it, but in the movie, the dogs tried to catch a bunny, but the bunny got away. Does the bunny have a chance to get away in this case or is it a fenced off area?

vexborg · Mar 3, 2006, 05:53 AM

Originally Posted by Doofy

1) Most of those links are repeating the exact same study...

2) ...which was probably carried out by dog owners.

3) American cats must be seriously different than my cats then. Really, it's ultra-rare that my cats get a bird.

Yeah, my cats are just too bloody lazy - why go and hunt for food, when their humans serve it for them?

And they are even running free outside - ok, one of them leaves our garden, but the other 3 can't be bothered leaving...

sek929 · Mar 3, 2006, 06:47 AM

My cats used to catch birds alll the time. Once my cat Sam even caught an Oriole, and left it on our doormat of course.

Cody Dawg · Mar 3, 2006, 06:54 AM

For those of you who couldn't see the video (even though I assume that most of the people here are sophisticated Mac users and would be able to figure ANYTHING out and somehow would be able to figure out how to watch the video) the video shows greyhounds chasing down a screaming rabbit and ripping it apart, very slowly, while the rabbit screams in terror and agony.

Ever heard a rabbit scream?

It sounds just like a human little girl.

The video is horrible. Doofy is right. And anyone who thinks it doesn't matter is just plain wrong - it does.

BlueSky · Mar 3, 2006, 08:08 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

For those of you who couldn't see the video (even though I assume that most of the people here are sophisticated Mac users and would be able to figure ANYTHING out and somehow would be able to figure out how to watch the video)

Some of us are sophisticated and can figure out almost anything, but at the moment I'm stuck with quantum physics and plug-ins. Just give some of us slightly less sophisticated Mac users a bit more time and we'll catch up eventually in our yellow bus, promise.

waxcrash · Mar 3, 2006, 08:12 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

For those of you who couldn't see the video (even though I assume that most of the people here are sophisticated Mac users and would be able to figure ANYTHING out and somehow would be able to figure out how to watch the video) the video shows greyhounds chasing down a screaming rabbit and ripping it apart, very slowly, while the rabbit screams in terror and agony.

Ever heard a rabbit scream?

It sounds just like a human little girl.

The video is horrible. Doofy is right. And anyone who thinks it doesn't matter is just plain wrong - it does.

You sound like Timothy Treadwell - the idiot who got eaten by the bears in the movie Grizzly Man. You think all animals are your friend. In the real natural world (away from your SUV, shopping mall, and suburban home) it is a brutal world were animals fight for existence. Even if these rabbits didn't get eaten by these dogs, they would have been eaten by another predator.

Cody Dawg · Mar 3, 2006, 09:06 AM

You're an ass.

I know about Timothy Treadwell and I think that what he did was incredibly stupid. Timothy Treadwell had serious mental deficits including being an alcoholic and going off meds for bi-polar disorder. I don't think "all animals are my friend."

Stop telling me what I think asshole.

wdlove · Mar 3, 2006, 09:12 AM

Sadly this happens all over the world, not just a USA thing. Humans can be so cruel. The Greyhounds wouldn't do that normally.

turtle777 · Mar 3, 2006, 09:24 AM

Originally Posted by tooki

I think we have bigger things to worry about than a few stupid rabbits

Lame, one-legged hampstors ?

-t

wdlove · Mar 3, 2006, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by tooki

I think we have bigger things to worry about than a few stupid rabbits (no offense, but they are pretty dumb).

tooki

The rabbits are innocent in this and we should care. We need to show our humanity.

turtle777 · Mar 3, 2006, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by wdlove

We need to show our humanity.

That's EXACTLY what the video is showing. Humanity, as of right now.

-t

analogika · Mar 3, 2006, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

You're an ass.

I know about Timothy Treadwell and I think that what he did was incredibly stupid. Timothy Treadwell had serious mental deficits including being an alcoholic and going off meds for bi-polar disorder. I don't think "all animals are my friend."

Stop telling me what I think asshole.

woah, honey.