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salvation666 · 02:45 PM

If the rumors are correct (4" screen, 16:9 aspect, same form factor) then this is what I suspect the real video iPod will look like.

macfantn · Mar 4, 2006, 03:09 PM

where is the scroll wheel? touchscreen?

dlefebvre · Mar 4, 2006, 03:28 PM

It could use the same remote as Front Row

salvation666 · Mar 4, 2006, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by macfantn

where is the scroll wheel? touchscreen?

Touch screen, it appears on screen when you touch it.

Eug Wanker · Mar 4, 2006, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by salvation666

If the rumors are correct (4" screen, 16:9 aspect, same form factor) then this is what I suspect the real video iPod will look like.

Check out this thread.

Originally Posted by dlefebvre

It could use the same remote as Front Row

On an iPod?

Originally Posted by salvation666

Touch screen, it appears on screen when you touch it.

Indeed:

f1000 · Mar 4, 2006, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by dlefebvre

It could use the same remote as Front Row

Can one even sit far enough away from a 4" screen to need a remote?

euchomai · Mar 4, 2006, 09:54 PM

I'm not an iPod person, I've owned them from the beginning, but find that I really never use it. I'd love to have that thing though! Watching Earl and The Office would be awesome.

The Godfather · Mar 4, 2006, 10:06 PM

An on-screen click-wheel is a very dumb (though cool) idea.

Your fingers can learn to slide on a real click-wheel by themselves. Operating an on-screen click-wheel would require hand-eye coordination: too much effort for the task.

Kevin · Mar 4, 2006, 11:34 PM

As long as it's firewire...

meelk · Mar 5, 2006, 12:00 AM

If I can encode my own dvds, I'm in.

I Bent My Wookiee · Mar 5, 2006, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by f1000

Can one even sit far enough away from a 4" screen to need a remote?

For skip song, pause and volume you really need to look at the screen?

lothar56 · Mar 5, 2006, 01:40 AM

There's no real way to 'feel' on a touchscreen where buttons are, unlike a physical click-wheel, where you can easily tell the difference between the wheel and its surroundings

I Bent My Wookiee · Mar 5, 2006, 01:47 AM

Originally Posted by lothar56

There's no real way to 'feel' on a touchscreen where buttons are, unlike a physical click-wheel, where you can easily tell the difference between the wheel and its surroundings

That's what I keep saying but someone always makes a bad joke when I do.

lothar56 · Mar 5, 2006, 02:19 AM

My mind's as deep in the gutter as I'll let it go, but I can't come up with a solid joke.

andreas_g4 · Mar 5, 2006, 06:39 AM

So, with that widescreen iPod video, will Apple add it to the line or replace the current 4:3 iPod video? I could think that they drop the price of the 5g and add the new one as higher priced model, maybe only in one HD size in the beginning.

Eug Wanker · Mar 5, 2006, 09:23 AM

Originally Posted by meelk

If I can encode my own dvds, I'm in.

Handbrake

Originally Posted by lothar56

There's no real way to 'feel' on a touchscreen where buttons are, unlike a physical click-wheel, where you can easily tell the difference between the wheel and its surroundings

I agree, but I can't think of a way around it without increasing the size or clunkiness of the unit.

Originally Posted by andreas_g4

So, with that widescreen iPod video, will Apple add it to the line or replace the current 4:3 iPod video? I could think that they drop the price of the 5g and add the new one as higher priced model, maybe only in one HD size in the beginning.

My guess is that it would be $499, with an 80 GB hard drive.

dlefebvre · Mar 5, 2006, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by f1000

Can one even sit far enough away from a 4" screen to need a remote?

In case you would want to hook it to a TV.

chabig · Mar 5, 2006, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by The Godfather

An on-screen click-wheel is a very dumb (though cool) idea.

Your fingers can learn to slide on a real click-wheel by themselves. Operating an on-screen click-wheel would require hand-eye coordination: too much effort for the task.

Operating a touch-screen click wheel would be trivially easy to learn. It's pretty easy to trace a circle with your fingertip. Try it on a tabletop for instance--easy. I speak from experience, having a full face invisible shield on my Nano effectively takes away all tactile feel from the scroll wheel and the buttons. It's every bit as easy to operate as a regular iPod.

Chris

hickey · Mar 5, 2006, 11:09 AM

finally I could watch Gilmore Girls at a proper size.

I Bent My Wookiee · Mar 5, 2006, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by chabig

Operating a touch-screen click wheel would be trivially easy to learn. It's pretty easy to trace a circle with your fingertip. Try it on a tabletop for instance--easy. I speak from experience, having a full face invisible shield on my Nano effectively takes away all tactile feel from the scroll wheel and the buttons. It's every bit as easy to operate as a regular iPod.

Chris

Actually I had an invisible shield on my Nano also, it covered the whole front with a smooth surface and I found it much harder to use.

Without a sticker on it you can feel the borders of the scroll wheel and do it without looking, a touchscreen will not.

I ended up replacing my nano's shield within a month with one with the scroll wheel cut out, it's much better for me.

chabig · Mar 5, 2006, 11:25 AM

Originally Posted by I Bent My Wookiee

Actually I had an invisible shield on my Nano also, it covered the whole front with a smooth surface and I found it much harder to use.

Without a sticker on it you can feel the borders of the scroll wheel and do it without looking, a touchscreen will not.

I ended up replacing my nano's shield within a month with one with the scroll wheel cut out, it's much better for me.

I agree that with the shield, you can't feel the location of the buttons. I have to look at the iPod to operate it. But with a video iPod, won't you be looking at it anyway?

Chris

I Bent My Wookiee · Mar 5, 2006, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by chabig

I agree that with the shield, you can't feel the location of the buttons. I have to look at the iPod to operate it. But with a video iPod, won't you be looking at it anyway?

Chris

Yes, but having to look is another downside in itself.

At any rate I still want a touchscreen iPod but I am just worried about the usability.

Goldfinger · Mar 5, 2006, 11:58 AM

I can see the posts that rant about completely scratched and greasy screens and crappy working touchscreens already.

I Bent My Wookiee · Mar 5, 2006, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Goldfinger

I can see the posts that rant about completely scratched and greasy screens and crappy working touchscreens already.

qnxde · Mar 5, 2006, 12:15 PM

http://www.macshrine.com/ipodav.htm

Here's the latest round of fakes. Zoom in and it's obvious.

I Bent My Wookiee · Mar 5, 2006, 12:23 PM

It looks stupid fake to me.

osiris · 01:42 PM

Maybe the iPod will have some sort of crystal or tempered glass screen. Though that wouldn't do much for the fingerprints.

One thing for sure, I love the fakes and want a real one.

the_glassman · Mar 5, 2006, 01:32 PM

I hear Steve will come out with an iGlove to go along with new ipod. No fingerprints to worry about!

Goldfinger · Mar 5, 2006, 01:49 PM

iGlove. Shipping now. Only $99. We're very excited about this.

osiris · Mar 5, 2006, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Goldfinger

iGlove. Shipping now. Only $99. We're very excited about this.

That's just for one, right? I hear that they need to be paired for optimal performance.

the_glassman · 04:07 PM

An early prototype.

Goldfinger · Mar 5, 2006, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by osiris

That's just for one, right? I hear that they need to be paired for optimal performance.

Yep the iGlove stereo™ is only $189.

jasonsRX7 · Mar 5, 2006, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by The Godfather

An on-screen click-wheel is a very dumb (though cool) idea.

Your fingers can learn to slide on a real click-wheel by themselves. Operating an on-screen click-wheel would require hand-eye coordination: too much effort for the task.

What if it used gestures instead...

hickey · Mar 5, 2006, 04:27 PM

These are the newest images floating around, most think they're fake though. Discuss.
Images to big to post.

moonmonkey · Mar 5, 2006, 11:52 PM

Originally Posted by hickey

These are the newest images floating around, most think they're fake though. Discuss.
Images to big to post.

Those look very good.

Kevin · Mar 5, 2006, 11:53 PM

No only if it had firewire.

Goldfinger · Mar 6, 2006, 05:44 AM

Are there really touch screens out there that are thin enough to sit in an iPod ?

Eug Wanker · Mar 6, 2006, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by Goldfinger

Are there really touch screens out there that are thin enough to sit in an iPod ?

Just about any screen that can be used in a PDA.