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Mar 13, 2006, 10:37 PM
 
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Mar 13, 2006, 10:38 PM
 
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Mar 13, 2006, 10:39 PM
 
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Mar 13, 2006, 10:44 PM
 
The guy seems credible, I've been watching him work on this for a while... and if he's going to claim that prize number he has to say how it's done anyway. Plus he has to tell the beta testers how it's done.
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Mar 13, 2006, 10:52 PM
 
Hey if it works props to him. I'd love to run VPC at native speeds.

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Mar 13, 2006, 10:54 PM
 
Also of note another group is rushing to beat this guy to claiming the prize. They've got Boch's entire BIOS emulator running in EFI. While it requires flashing your firmware, it can run Windows XP unmodified. The above method requires modifying XP.
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Mar 13, 2006, 11:29 PM
 
lol@mac users furiously trying to boot windows btw.
     
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Mar 14, 2006, 01:20 AM
 
If it's an iMac G5 running VirtualPC, that will be immediately obvious to the people who award the prize money when his steps consist of "1. Run VirtualPC on an iMac G5."
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Mar 14, 2006, 02:00 AM
 
This would be great if it is real and is easy to do. I have been thinking about getting a Mac for a while now, and if I could dual boot into Windows that would almost seal the deal. But I guess dual booting hasn't been discussed much with this competition...
     
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Mar 14, 2006, 05:02 AM
 
what is the link for the joke?
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Mar 14, 2006, 06:35 AM
 
Meh,

While I can see that some people would like have xp rn on a mactel w/o hacking, I don't by Mac's to run windows but osx. My response good for him, but I'll take OSX any day.
     
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Mar 14, 2006, 06:51 AM
 
May be handy this XP or Vista on Mac thing! If it's possible to have 2 OSes on the Mac that would be great. It opens new possibilities of using mac with Autocad and 3DMax etc.!
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Mar 14, 2006, 08:18 AM
 
Originally Posted by goMac
While it requires flashing your firmware...


I'd prefer to still be able to boot Mac OS X afterwards!
     
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Mar 14, 2006, 11:08 AM
 
I wouldn't mind booting XP on my iMac, but only to play Half Life 2.

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Mar 14, 2006, 11:12 AM
 
Will wait and see how it all turns out.

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Mar 14, 2006, 11:23 AM
 
Originally Posted by Person Man


I'd prefer to still be able to boot Mac OS X afterwards!
Sounds like it's an EFI application, so you still have your original booting abilities intact.

Ironically it's being done by a few IBM guys.
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Mar 14, 2006, 11:37 AM
 
So, do I understand right, this would NOT qualify for dual boot. Flashing the firmware everytime is not only time consuming, but also risky...

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Hey GoMac,

OT but what ever happened to your theming app? I thought it was all but written but you were developing the web site and documentation.
     
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Originally Posted by Maflynn
Hey GoMac,

OT but what ever happened to your theming app? I thought it was all but written but you were developing the web site and documentation.
I've got something related for the near future actually. I've been trying to keep it under Unsanity's radar. I haven't been working on themes for a while. I did complete something but I haven't released it because the theme market is pretty much trashed right now. There aren't enough themes to make the whole process of releasing and maintaining a theme changer worth it. Back when I did Duality it was easy enough to do it in my spare time, but I need to code for money now (need to pay bills and all, I started working on themes when I was a Freshman in High School). We'll see what happens, but I have a few other projects I've been playing with that would probably be more successful.
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what is the website with the animated windows joke, it starts with lots of DLL errors

its a very old website
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Mar 14, 2006, 12:21 PM
 
I hope that it isn't Virtual PC that capitalizes on this, but a different product altogether.
     
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Mar 14, 2006, 12:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c
I hope that it isn't Virtual PC that capitalizes on this, but a different product altogether.
Did you even read the thread ?

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Mar 14, 2006, 12:38 PM
 
Originally Posted by what_the_heck
Did you even read the thread ?

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Yes, I understand that it is about dual booting. However, I think that more people are going to want to virtualize Windows. Dual booting is simply the first step needed to make this happen.
     
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Mar 14, 2006, 12:39 PM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c
Yes, I understand that it is about dual booting.
NO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND JACK.

Apparently, this hack requires flashing the firmware. Far away from being a dual-boot hack.

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Mar 14, 2006, 12:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by what_the_heck
NO, YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND JACK.

Apparently, this hack requires flashing the firmware. Far away from being a dual-boot hack.

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Whoah! Keep your pants on...

The alternate BIOS, Bambios or whatever it is called, does require the firmwire flash. What is your point again?
     
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Mar 14, 2006, 12:52 PM
 
Originally Posted by besson3c
Whoah! Keep your pants on...
The alternate BIOS, Bambios or whatever it is called, does require the firmwire flash. What is your point again?
Whatever it is, it's NOT dual boot par se.
And, of course, it's NOT VPC either.

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Originally Posted by what_the_heck
Whatever it is, it's NOT dual boot par se.
And, of course, it's NOT VPC either.

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What was the point of your hissy fit then?

By flashing with this new BIOS, you can make your system dual boot. Like I said, it also paves the way towards virtualizing. Something like VMWare only needs an Aqua port for its GUI, and it should be able to run off-the-shelf copies of Windows on machines with this modded BIOS.

All I was saying was that I hope Virtual PC isn't the product that capitalizes on running Windows with this new BIOS somehow.


I accept your apology for over-reacting. I apologize for being unclear too.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c
Those two dogs must be gay!

Correct me if I'm wrong, but lions are cats. And only the one with the mane seems to be male, the one without, female.
     
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Originally Posted by Binarymix
Correct me if I'm wrong, but lions are cats. And only the one with the mane seems to be male, the one without, female.

Since you asked to be corrected, I will. You are mistaken here. They are definitely dogs. Male ones, at that.
     
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Originally Posted by Binarymix
ok!

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Originally Posted by goMac
I did complete something but I haven't released it because the theme market is pretty much trashed right now.
That's why I asked. The market seems to be at best stagnent at worst declining. I don't want to hijack this thread but I was curious thanks
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c
Those two dogs must be gay!
OT...That's from the lion king, thats simba and …something. How can you not know that?
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OT...That's from the lion king, thats simba and …something. How can you not know that?

They look like two mongrels that live down the street from me. They're just dogs people, relax. Nothing special here.
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c
I accept your apology for over-reacting. I apologize for being unclear too.
Apology granted and accepted.

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Originally Posted by besson3c
Those two dogs must be gay!
Must. resist. urge.

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Lions...not dogs. The only reason to get Windoze to boot on a mac is for games, and the prize money, plus you get additional features with windows too! EX. blue screen of death, crashing, madness, and did I mention crashing? No offense to Windows users though.
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Originally Posted by Velocity211
The only reason to get Windoze to boot on a mac is for games...
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I'm just saying windows has more games, I personally don't play games much. Some popular game titles are only on windows and not mac.
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Finally. Somebody pulled off the BIOS flash.

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LOL That would be pretty cool.
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Some of the virtualization software now is working really well, only offering a miniscule hit in performance. Don't under-estimate the ability to play many games this way - FAR more convenient than booting into Windows.
     
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Originally Posted by Velocity211
plus you get additional features with windows too! EX. blue screen of death, crashing, madness, and did I mention crashing? No offense to Windows users though.
oh..thats ok. think nothing of it
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