[OmniSupportGuy]

Possess a radar-like sense for bugs? Can you make guesses about how an application is going to fail, then prove whether you're right? Have the ability to put yourself in a less-experienced user's shoes and predict how they'll use our applications? Once you find a problem, can you communicate it clearly and effectively to the folks who need to fix it? If so, we'd like to hear from you.

A Software Test Pilot spends his or her day creatively exercising our applications as we build them. This involves both finding new issues and verifying bug fixes after engineers have worked on them. You'll collaborate with engineers and product managers to find the best balance of features, stability, and schedules.

We often have multiple projects in different stages of the development process at the same time. Our plans for our apps constantly change as we develop them; your plans will need to adjust accordingly - sometimes several times in one week.

We'd also ask you to think of ways to improve QA itself - new tests we could be running, or ways we can prevent bugs our customers found from sneaking past us again.

If you'd like to apply for this job, visit http://www.omnigroup.com/company/jobs and follow the instructions on that page.

[turtle777]

Reported.

-t

[ambush]

I reported YOU, w_t_h.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by ambush

I reported YOU, w_t_h.

-t

[dcmacdaddy]

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Reported.

-t

Omni makes some of the best home-grown Mac software around and they are coming on here to solicit for people to help them improve their Mac-specific software and you are accusing them of spamming us?

Oh what little do you know, my turtle-loving friend. Omni rocks!

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy

Omni makes some of the best home-grown Mac software around ...
Oh what little do you know, my turtle-loving friend. Omni rocks!

Pff, I know they are making good software.

BUT:

1) If they need qualified people, how about recruiting in the "Software forum"
2) It IS unsolicited advertisement. Their product is a job.
3) They should have asked if they can recruit. Others have done that before.

-t

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

1) If they need qualified people, how about recruiting in the "Software forum"

It would be less appropriate there, since it is not actually a discussion of software.

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

2) It IS unsolicited advertisement. Their product is a job.

You're the only one so far who seems to think it's unwelcome.

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

3) They should have asked if they can recruit. Others have done that before.

Clearly, they correctly felt that the community welcomes news and inquiries from Omni. And how do you know they didn't PM tooki and ask?

Really, this seems on the topic of a Mac forum, and it's not as though he's posting in huge bulk across a bunch of inappropriate forums.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Chuckit

It would be less appropriate there, since it is not actually a discussion of software.

Really ? But the Lounge is a place to post your job openings ? News to me.

My point is this: You're cutting the guy slack because he's from Omni. Fair enough.
But just think what would happen if suddenly dozens of job postings would flood in here, because people thought it's a great idea. Yeah, I know, wonderful prospect...

-t

[Chuckit]

If they were all specific enough to apply to the Mac community but general enough that they shouldn't go somewhere more specific (like someplace targeted at the Mac programming community), I would say they're welcome, but perhaps merit their own section. I think it would be awesome to have that many Mac jobs available.

And the Lounge is kind of a general place for anything not better covered elsewhere.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by Chuckit

And the Lounge is kind of a general place for anything not better covered elsewhere.

Well, there was a request a while ago for a job forum. I would welcome that.
Until then, I could think of the Marketplace as an appropriate place to post.

-t

[OmniSupportGuy]

I did a google search for "macintosh job opportunities" and saw other job-offer posts to the macnn forums in the lounge. I wish I had thought of pming the moderators before hand, but I didn't. Assumption was that it was of interest to the community. If we've offended anyone, please accept my apologies.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by OmniSupportGuy

I did a google search for "macintosh job opportunities" and saw other job-offer posts to the macnn forums in the lounge. I wish I had thought of pming the moderators before hand, but I didn't. Assumption was that it was of interest to the community. If we've offended anyone, please accept my apologies.

You, you CAN'T be a spammer, spammers never ask for an apology.

I know from the past that people DID ask the mods, so that is the ideal route.

I still think that this would have fit better in the Software forum, because you have people that HELP others fix issues, and they know a lot about usability and how "n00bs" use and relate to software. Maybe even some of the mods of the Programmers and / or Software forum would be interested.

Point is this: here in the Lounge, you have such a mixed bag, a "serious" inquiry like yours is more likely to be overlooked. Plus, we ARE burned here with spam.

-t

[ambush]

too mean.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by ambush

editied because ambush realized it himself...

-t

[vmarks]

Omni Support Guy,

Thanks for posting here. Are you looking for WA state locals only?

Other readers: if there were a flood of job listings, we'd add a Job Postings forum. Until then, here is alright.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by vmarks

Omni Support Guy,

Thanks for posting here. Are you looking for WA state locals only?

Other readers: if there were a flood of job listings, we'd add a Job Postings forum. Until then, here is alright.

Can I suggest to make a "JOBLISTING" prefix mandatory in the title.
Would make things easier to identify.

-t

[olePigeon]

Besides, it's Omnigroup. They're cool in my book.

[Teronzhul]

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Can I suggest to make a "JOBLISTING" prefix mandatory in the title.
Would make things easier to identify.

-t

I'm not sure why that would be necessary. In fact, the thread title 'Omni Group seeks software test pilot [QA]' seems quite descriptive to me. Were you duped or confused by this?

[besson3c]

Jesus Christ, quit with the stupid forum copping/modding people and ****ing CHILL OUT!

I'm starting to see Tooki's point of view. Too many rules make people whine. Too few rules and a more hands off approach people causes people to whine too.

Quit with the stupid armchair modding, it does nobody any good. This thread has not caused your world to unravel, and arguing about it requires more time than is required to simply IGNORE the thread!



Grrrrrr...

[vmarks]

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Can I suggest to make a "JOBLISTING" prefix mandatory in the title.
Would make things easier to identify.

-t

Since you're being picky, you'll love this:

Comments like the one I quoted above belong in the Feedback forum.

[OmniSupportGuy]

Originally Posted by vmarks

Omni Support Guy,

Are you looking for WA state locals only?

We're hoping to find a candidate in the Seattle area, but we're also considering candidates from other locations. We're not looking for a remote worker - we need someone here in the office with us. We are willing to consider helping out with relocation expenses.

[turtle777]

Originally Posted by vmarks

Since you're being picky, you'll love this:
Comments like the one I quoted above belong in the Feedback forum.

Do you want me to repost ?

-t

[juanvaldes]

Having a hard time huh?

ba-bump!