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macfantn · Mar 22, 2006, 03:33 PM

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/cellp...med-162287.php

::maroma:: · Mar 22, 2006, 03:38 PM

Heh, "all but confirmed" means "possibly maybe sometime in the near or distant future".

MindFad · Mar 22, 2006, 06:06 PM

"All but confirmed" minus pictures is not "all but confirmed" in my book.

d4nth3m4n · Mar 22, 2006, 06:10 PM

^^ truth.

davesimondotcom · Mar 22, 2006, 06:13 PM

Notice the article that is linked to actually says: "All but confirmed?"

The question mark is an easy out for them to say they weren't wrong.

rickey939 · Mar 22, 2006, 06:36 PM

Dark Helmet · Mar 22, 2006, 06:38 PM

So if it is "All but confirmed" what is it then......................... NOT CONFIRMED!

baw · Mar 22, 2006, 06:49 PM

iWalk! All but confirmed!

Tuoder · Mar 22, 2006, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by baw

iWalk! All but confirmed!

and there was a VIDEO of that. I will believe it when I see it on sale.(the phone)

macfantn · Mar 22, 2006, 08:09 PM

do you think apple will sell just a phone or sell mvno service like boost or amp'd?

Apple Pro Underwear · Mar 22, 2006, 09:27 PM

i dont think so.

why does the "itunes phone" exist with mot if they planned to whip this out. nah, maybe in a few years.

UNTeMac · Mar 23, 2006, 01:42 AM

Phone with iSight and iChat...now that's an announcement.

vmarks · Mar 23, 2006, 03:05 AM

Originally Posted by Apple Pro Underwear

i dont think so.

why does the "itunes phone" exist with mot if they planned to whip this out. nah, maybe in a few years.

At the launch of the first itunes phone, Moto CEO Ed Zander was pissed and mouthed off to the press "Screw the Nano" and "He also added fuel to persistent speculation about Apple's interest in producing its own phone. "And we know that they are going to build a smart phone--it's only a matter of time."

http://news.com.com/Motorola+CEO+App...3-5885651.html

wdlove · Mar 24, 2006, 09:55 AM

Not interested until it will be compatible with Verizon Wireless.

Luca Rescigno · Mar 24, 2006, 10:20 AM

Originally Posted by MindFad

"All but confirmed" minus pictures is not "all but confirmed" in my book.

Eh, even if there was a picture, everyone would say it's a fake.

olePigeon · Mar 24, 2006, 10:43 AM

As long as it looks like an iPod nano.

starman · Mar 24, 2006, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by wdlove

Not interested until it will be compatible with Verizon Wireless.

And if it DOES become comatible with that crappy provider, Verizon won't allow you to use it with your Mac the same as if Cingular or Sprint would.

VW ftl

Dark Helmet · Mar 24, 2006, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by Luca Rescigno

Eh, even if there was a picture, everyone would say it's a fake.

That's because IT ALWAYS IS in the end. What was the last "leaked" image that turned out true? Last I remember was the slot loading CRT iMacs.

olePigeon · Mar 24, 2006, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

That's because IT ALWAYS IS in the end. What was the last "leaked" image that turned out true? Last I remember was the slot loading CRT iMacs.

The resin molds for the G5 case. Those turned out to be real.

Dark Helmet · Mar 24, 2006, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

The resin molds for the G5 case. Those turned out to be real.

Really? i dont' remember that. Got a link?

Do resin molds really count though?

Luca Rescigno · Mar 24, 2006, 12:31 PM

Also the MDD PowerMac G4.

Dark Helmet · Mar 24, 2006, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by Luca Rescigno

Also the MDD PowerMac G4.

I remember that one. It was in white though with stickers on it.

angelmb · Mar 24, 2006, 01:16 PM

Originally Posted by Luca Rescigno

Also the MDD PowerMac G4.

My reaction by then was like 'YGBK !!!'… crappy spy picts

Was this one?

::maroma:: · Mar 24, 2006, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by vmarks

At the launch of the first itunes phone, Moto CEO Ed Zander was pissed and mouthed off to the press "Screw the Nano" and "He also added fuel to persistent speculation about Apple's interest in producing its own phone. "And we know that they are going to build a smart phone--it's only a matter of time."

http://news.com.com/Motorola+CEO+App...3-5885651.html

BWAAHAHAHAHAH!! Screw the Nano?? What a ******* idiot. His quote:

"Screw the Nano. What the hell does the Nano do? Who listens to 1,000 songs?"

HAHAHAH! This guy needs a wake up call. And that call being a kick to the face.

angelmb · Mar 24, 2006, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by ::maroma::

BWAAHAHAHAHAH!! Screw the Nano?? What a ******* idiot. His quote:

(…)

And that call being a kick to the face.

You know you really mean a genuine Chuck Norris roundhouse kick !

ort888 · Mar 24, 2006, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by ::maroma::

BWAAHAHAHAHAH!! Screw the Nano?? What a ******* idiot. His quote:

"Screw the Nano. What the hell does the Nano do? Who listens to 1,000 songs?"

HAHAHAH! This guy needs a wake up call. And that call being a kick to the face.

This was debunked. He was joking around when he said that. It wasn't serious.

vmarks · Mar 24, 2006, 04:18 PM

Show me a link that debunks it: My take is that his PR people advised him to take it back and say he was only kidding, that if he didn't it could screw up the deals for SLVR L7 and other moto phones with iTunes integration.

He said things to that effect more than once that week.

::maroma:: · Mar 24, 2006, 04:26 PM

Yeah I do know that Moto and Apple do not get along. I would be surprised if he was joking about that. Moto isn't exactly known for innovation or forward thinking. Its really funny to see which CEO's choose to badmouth Apple and their products. Its usually the ones who head companies that wouldn't know innovation if it slapped them in the face. And they almost always end up eating their words. I love it.

ort888 · Mar 24, 2006, 04:32 PM

I can't find the specific story I read, it's been a long time, but I seem to remember hearing that it was said as a humorous and sarcastic response to the 25th question in a row about the Nano, when he was supposed to be talking about the ROKR. I think the specific question was about the Nano's 1,000 song limit compared to the ROKRs 100.

I don't know, maybe I'm wrong, who knows, I wasn't there. I just have a hard time believing that he would say something so dumb at a press conference.

Dark Helmet · Mar 24, 2006, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by vmarks

Show me a link that debunks it

http://www.betanews.com/article/Moto...oke/1127763247

vmarks · Mar 24, 2006, 05:39 PM

I stand by my impression - He shot off a remark and PR tried to take it back.

Consider the time: He was fighting carriers to carry it when carriers want to use their own charge-for-music/ringtones/etc. service, not let users listen to music they already own (iTMS/iTunes) and at the same time having to confront the fact that his ROKR E1 phone is artificially limited to 100 songs even if there's RAM available for far more. Add insult to injury, the phone was announced at the same time as the Nano that can hold much more with no such artificial limitation. Of course he was going to disparage the Nano.

Moto even has their own iRadio service that works with ROKR E2 instead of iTunes.

http://msnbci.businessweek.com/techn...7462_tc024.htm

http://www.mobileburn.com/news.jsp?Id=1253

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,124178,00.asp

production_coordinator · Mar 24, 2006, 06:05 PM

How about a phone that does all the things WE KNOW they should be able to do!

My motorola phone had everything I want in a phone, but Verizon cripples it... and Motorola doesn't support anything.

My phone can:
- Play video
- Play MP3s
- Take Pictures
- Has bluetooth
- Can play games
- Has a 512MB chip in it

Of those things, I have to hack the thing to get the images off of it... the videos are also hacked to get them off... There is no interface for either (like iPhoto or iMovie would offer). The MP3 player (while it plays the MP3s perfectly) is a nightmare to upload new songs to... and organize them.

The bluetooth can do little more than synch my phone numbers (it should be able to do HUNDREDS of cool things!!!) It barley connects to my computer... which makes NO SENSE!!!

I can only play the lame games that I buy for $8 or more... for PAC MAN!!! A game created 25+ years ago!!!

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!

Apple should be able to run circles around these idiots...

::maroma:: · Mar 24, 2006, 06:15 PM

Originally Posted by production_coordinator

Apple should be able to run circles around these idiots...

And everyone knows that they can. Apple knows it too. The question is, when (if ever) is the right time to release such a product? I'm sure there are a ton of other things that factor into the answer to that question, other than the fact that Apple can no doubt destroy all these chumps with one simple product. I have a feeling that guys like Moto, SonyEricsson, Nokia, etc are all sweating bullets just waiting to see if Apple will come out with something that will make them all look like amateurs.

The Godfather · Mar 24, 2006, 06:28 PM

If Apple made an iPhone, it would be easy to penetrate the GSM market because they use SIM cards, even if they cost $500 (no subsidization).
On the other hand, it would be nearly impossible to inflitrate Verizon's market, since they don't support SIM cards. In this case, Verizon would demand their branding on the iPhone, and a feature cripple.