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Mar 23, 2006, 12:09 PM
 
I'm a TOTAL newbie at this, having always been digital, so please excuse this potentially silly question regarding film scanners.

Let's say I have a 35mm LOMO and I want to get the images from the exposed film roll onto my system. My thinking/understanding was this:

1. Take pics
2. Rewind roll and remove from camera
3. Insert roll into film scanner
4. Film scanner scans the exposed roll into your system

Is this correct — or do you still have to take your roll to a photo place and have them make negatives or whatever?

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Mar 23, 2006, 12:12 PM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
do you still have to take your roll to a photo place and have them make negatives or whatever?
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Mar 23, 2006, 12:14 PM
 
I'm not an expert but I'm about 95% sure you need to get them developed first.
     
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Mar 23, 2006, 12:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
I'm a TOTAL newbie at this, having always been digital, so please excuse this potentially silly question regarding film scanners.

Let's say I have a 35mm LOMO and I want to get the images from the exposed film roll onto my system. My thinking/understanding was this:

1. Take pics
2. Rewind roll and remove from camera
3. Insert roll into film scanner
4. Film scanner scans the exposed roll into your system

Is this correct — or do you still have to take your roll to a photo place and have them make negatives or whatever?

Thanks,
Maury
No no no. Dvelope first. Heh. Film scanner scans negatives. Make sure you check what kind of adapter it has. Some of them take the strips, some of them take the cards (like from a slide-show projector), some can use both. I'm not a photographer, I don't remember the name, but I use scanners a lot.
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Mar 23, 2006, 12:23 PM
 
Crap. 35mm will be no biggie, but no one in my area develops MF.
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Mar 23, 2006, 12:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
Crap. 35mm will be no biggie, but no one in my area develops MF.
MF?
     
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Mar 23, 2006, 12:38 PM
 
No semi-pro shops near your place? Actually, there are a couple of non-pro shops near my place that also develop MF, but I don't trust them cuz they ripped one of my rolls of MF film the bastards.

Be aware too that most film scanners don't handle MF. You have to get specific (often $$$$) MF scanners or else higher end flatbed scanners with photo scanning attachments suitable for MF.

P.S. Which MF camera? I still have my Yashica-Mat 124G, even though I'm 99.99% digital now.



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MF?
Mothe.... errr... Medium Format.
     
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Mar 23, 2006, 01:24 PM
 
MF= medium format.

I'm getting a Holga 120 CFN — and I also just ordered a Lomo LCA (KOMPAKT AUTOMAT).



I did find ONE place about 10 miles away that develops MF, though, so that's good. The Lomo is 35mm, so I'm okay there.
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Mar 24, 2006, 07:44 AM
 
Originally Posted by Eug Wanker
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I have one of those, have only put one roll through it and it came out way blurry...

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Mar 24, 2006, 08:53 AM
 
A few years back there was actually research into scanners that would read the latent images from the yet-undeveloped film, but as digital boomed, the market vanished.

Hmm, I'll need to revisit that... Google-time later. I used to maintain both C-41 and E-6 processes back in the early nineties

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Mar 24, 2006, 09:03 AM
 
Originally Posted by phantomdragonz
I have one of those, have only put one roll through it and it came out way blurry...

Zach
I found the lens isn't the sharpest in the world, but at least with my camera it's sharp enough. More importantly though is the fact it's medium format. You can blow the pictures to as large as you want almost, and it still looks good.

Mind you it's kinda moot, considering I rarely blow pix up beyond 8x10 (and like I said I'm 99.99% digital anyways these days).

I'd LOVE to have a MF TLR digital camera, but that would have a 5-figure price.
     
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Mar 24, 2006, 10:00 AM
 
Definitively get it "fixed" before you scan it. It doesn't need to be developed, but at least processed. Othewise it's like opening your film in daylight: the light of the scanner will void all your pictures!

I'm not sure of the wording, but what I'm trying to say is that you at least need to treat your negative to some chemical agent to make it stop being light-sensitive.
     
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Mar 24, 2006, 10:25 PM
 
Originally Posted by FireWire
Definitively get it "fixed" before you scan it. It doesn't need to be developed, but at least processed. Othewise it's like opening your film in daylight: the light of the scanner will void all your pictures!

I'm not sure of the wording, but what I'm trying to say is that you at least need to treat your negative to some chemical agent to make it stop being light-sensitive.
You have to process the film. You don't need to make prints from negatives because a film scanner will scan either negatives or transparencies.

Most areas have professional labs that will process medium or large format. Look in the yellow pages, or ask any professional photographer.

I have a Hasselblad in my closet. It doesn't get used much. But when I do use it, I usually scan the slides on an Epson 2450. The results are OK, but there are better flatbed scanners available now with higher resolution and better negative holders. My Epson does a fairly poor job of holding the film flat so that often a medium format scan is less sharp than when I scan a 35mm negative. It may be time to upgrade soon.
     
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Mar 25, 2006, 12:04 AM
 
Originally Posted by Eug Wanker
No semi-pro shops near your place? Actually, there are a couple of non-pro shops near my place that also develop MF, but I don't trust them cuz they ripped one of my rolls of MF film the bastards.

Be aware too that most film scanners don't handle MF. You have to get specific (often $$$$) MF scanners or else higher end flatbed scanners with photo scanning attachments suitable for MF.

P.S. Which MF camera? I still have my Yashica-Mat 124G, even though I'm 99.99% digital now.



Mothe.... errr... Medium Format.
I had a Yashicamat 124G!!!!! Many many moon ago!

Perhaps my FAVORITE camera. Can't remember how many I've owned. I've shot 4x5, 2¼, 35mm, 127 (!!) and 110 but the 124G stands out as a fav! It's a simple to use camera but you can do a lot with it and the negative size makes for great fine grain blowups.

In fact, I've often thought about getting another one. Cool!
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