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Landos Mustache · Apr 6, 2006, 12:13 AM

"Scientists have made one of the most important fossil finds in history: a missing link between fish and land animals, showing how creatures first walked out of the water and on to dry land more than 375m years ago."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/...748005,00.html

forkies · Apr 6, 2006, 12:31 AM

i thought salty's recently discovered sexuality was the missing link, but i'm glad to be proven wrong

Rev-O · Apr 6, 2006, 12:37 AM

Already making an impact on posters and tshirts. Heh.

goMac · Apr 6, 2006, 12:44 AM

There was this lady on the bus who didn't believe in evolution. It came up because another person on the bus had a National Geographic on it. The lady borrowed it and read it.

Lady: You know... evolution is a theory with no proof. Darwin made it up because he looked like a monkey as a kid. Look at him! : points to picture : Look's like a monkey. Anyway, they have no proof at all, it's just some made up thing.
: lady looks at pictures in article :
Lady: Oh... so... they.. actually found bones? Well, they say they are 2 million years old... but... you know... carbon dating is... inaccurate. They can't even get accurate dates from fabric. This was found in Europe! There are still predators in Europe. And they could look like this. These are just European predator bones.

I swear, some people and the lengths they go through to assume things they know nothing about, make up stories about something they know nothing about, and then continue to make really flawed reasoning when they are confronted with proof.

greenamp · Apr 6, 2006, 01:33 AM

Oh man not this crap again.

And by crap I mean the bile that these threads always seem to leave in their wake.

Doofy · 06:46 AM

The find is the first complete evidence of an animal that was on the verge of the transition from water to land.

Oh purleese!! You're telling me that they've never found crocodile bones? Or alligator bones? Or frog bones? All of those look like they're on the verge of transition from water to land.

This is the Guardian and Dawkins spewing propaganda again, simple as that.

Observe:

As such, it will be a blow to proponents of intelligent design, who claim that the many gaps in the fossil record show evidence of some higher power.

Proponents of ID claim that, do they? I thought they claimed that the evolutionists are indeed correct about the how but not about the why (i.e. it was by design, not by accident).

Kevin · Apr 6, 2006, 06:13 AM

Wait, I thought there was no missing link?

I kept getting told that in here.

BTW this was posted before in the PL.

Kr0nos · Apr 6, 2006, 06:23 AM

Happy to hear about this, - but not very surprised at all.

Another nail in the coffin of creationism and literalism.

Bring on the spaghetti sauce.

Corpse of Chewbacca · Apr 6, 2006, 06:35 AM

If you think this actually solves the missing link issue you're certainly not a biologist. Even with the discovery the fossil record is still extremely complete and still shows huge gaps.

I'm a fan of the Great Spagetti Monster.

Kevin · Apr 6, 2006, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by Kr0nos

Another nail in the coffin of creationism and literalism.

Uh evolutin doesn't disprove creationism.

analogika · Apr 6, 2006, 08:57 AM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Oh purleese!! You're telling me that they've never found crocodile bones? Or alligator bones? Or frog bones? All of those look like they're on the verge of transition from water to land.

You are beyond clueless.

Landos Mustache · Apr 6, 2006, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Corpse of Chewbacca

If you think this actually solves the missing link issue you're certainly not a biologist. Even with the discovery the fossil record is still extremely complete and still shows huge gaps.

I'm a fan of the Great Spagetti Monster.

Oh I didn't know you were a biologist. Please fill us in on what else is needed as you seem to know better than those scientists.

olePigeon · Apr 6, 2006, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Oh purleese!! You're telling me that they've never found crocodile bones? Or alligator bones?

There's a difference between aquatic animals that have developed a dependency on water (such as crocodiles, hippopotami, aquatic turtles and tortoises, and beavers) and animals that are in a state of transtion from aquatic to future land-based only animals.

Originally Posted by Doofy

Or frog bones? All of those look like they're on the verge of transition from water to land.

Most frogs and toads, many insects, and nearly all amphibians have evolved a codependency with water and land. This is how they evolved. They aren't in any transition from water becuase they are dependent on it for their reproductive cycle.

Originally Posted by Doofy

Proponents of ID claim that, do they? I thought they claimed that the evolutionists are indeed correct about the how but not about the why (i.e. it was by design, not by accident).

Yes, many proponents of Intelligent Design claim that the theory of evolution doesn't work becuase there aren't any transitional species. We've found many fossils that show transitions from land to air, and now fossils that show transitions from water to land.

Originally Posted by Kevin

Wait, I thought there was no missing link?

I kept getting told that in here.

Who the hell said that?

Originally Posted by Corpse of Chewbacca

If you think this actually solves the missing link issue you're certainly not a biologist. Even with the discovery the fossil record is still extremely complete and still shows huge gaps.

This isn't a nail-in-the-coffin type discovery, but it's certainly a fibulator on the old guy. We have no idea what the fossil record is suppose to look like because we have no idea what types of animals lived then. We only know as much as we discover.

However, with regards to "transitional" species, this is an important discovery and the evidence supports the theory of evolution.

Originally Posted by Corpse of Chewbacca

I'm a fan of the Great Spagetti Monster.

Indeed. His noodley appendage has touched us all.

Remember, the decline in pirates has an adverse effect on global warming. So we need more pirates!

meelk · Apr 6, 2006, 10:57 AM

didnt this thing appear on that episode of voyager when Paris broke the warp 10 barrier and evolved?

Dark Helmet · Apr 6, 2006, 11:00 AM

Originally Posted by meelk

didnt this thing appear on that episode of voyager when Paris broke the warp 10 barrier and evolved?

Ha ha, that is the first thing that came to mind when I saw it also. BTW that is considered to be the worst episode of star Trek ever.

Anywho, more info on the story with pics here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4879672.stm

Super Mario · Apr 6, 2006, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Uh evolutin doesn't disprove creationism.

Why do creationists tend to look like this

Oh I know...."I'm not ugly and stupid because GOD created me"

Poor excuse.

Dark Helmet · Apr 6, 2006, 11:08 AM

Can we ever talk about science without bringing some jesus crap into it?

olePigeon · Apr 6, 2006, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Uh evolutin doesn't disprove creationism.

Nothing disproves creationism, which is also why Intelligent Design is not a theory or a science because nothing can disprove Intelligent Design.

Tomchu · Apr 6, 2006, 11:17 AM

At this point in time, I don't know whether to believe evolution or intelligent design. Neither one has been proven, and neither one has been disproven. I think it's extremely pretentious of us as a species to think that we're the be-all, end-all of intelligence, development, etc, and that if we can't prove it, it doesn't exist.

I'm just trying to be open-minded here.

Person Man · Apr 6, 2006, 11:19 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Can we ever talk about science without bringing some jesus crap into it?

No.

Timo · Apr 6, 2006, 11:19 AM

Exciting news.

As a side note, one of the more fun things to do when visiting New York City is to visit the Museum of Natural History. On the fourth floor the curators have arranged the Museum's fossil records in such a clear way that one can see for oneself various stages nodes of evolutionary development. It's fascinating and a triumph of good design to boot (the display, I mean).

meelk · Apr 6, 2006, 11:31 AM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...nt&pl=true
I'm all for intelligent design, although I dont believe in any particular religion, and definitely dont believe in "the written word" of any religion.
Do I believe in "God" or something like "him"? Yes.

Can ID exist in concert with things like evolution? Sure, from my perspective, anyway.

Doofy · Apr 6, 2006, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Can we ever talk about science without bringing some jesus crap into it?

Not when the article you link to to start the thread off has religious references in it, no.

turtle777 · Apr 6, 2006, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Can we ever talk about science without bringing some jesus crap into it?

Can you ?

-t

Big Mac · Apr 6, 2006, 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by Super Mario

Why do creationists tend to look like this

You're a real piece of work, you know that?

Obi Wan's Ghost · Apr 6, 2006, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by meelk

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...nt&pl=true
I'm all for intelligent design, although I dont believe in any particular religion, and definitely dont believe in "the written word" of any religion.
Do I believe in "God" or something like "him"? Yes.

Can ID exist in concert with things like evolution? Sure, from my perspective, anyway.

That's not God or Jesus it's the midochlorians.

Dark Helmet · Apr 6, 2006, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Can you ?

-t

Where did I even make hint of religion before someone else started it.

Tart

meelk · Apr 6, 2006, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Obi Wan's Ghost

That's not God or Jesus it's the midochlorians.

I think the very idea of observer based reality makes God inescapable as a conclusion.

Dark Helmet · Apr 6, 2006, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by meelk

I think the very idea of observer based reality makes God inescapable as a conclusion.

Case closed.

cjrivera · Apr 6, 2006, 12:08 PM

I thought we already found the missing link?

(... or was that the missing link between ape and man?)

greenamp · Apr 6, 2006, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by cjrivera

I thought we already found the missing link?

(... or was that the missing link between ape and man?)

http://www.devilducky.com/media/2299/

!!!

turtle777 · Apr 6, 2006, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Where did I even make hint of religion before someone else started it.

Right, you have NEVAR EVAR done this under ANY of your SW nicks !

-t

Dark Helmet · Apr 6, 2006, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Right, you have NEVAR EVAR done this under ANY of your SW nicks !

-t

Don't bullshit anyone. There is no mention of religion started by me in this thread.

I know I have ask before but do you think it would be possible for you to stop following me around like a little lost Zimphire? Nobody here finds you comments towards me the least bit entertaining and neither do I.

I already have a boyfriend in real life thanks.

turtle777 · Apr 6, 2006, 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Don't bullshit anyone. There is no mention of religion started by me in this thread.

Quoted for emphasis.

Come down from your high horse, you have started countless attacks.
Just because you refrained from it once doesn't make you a good or innocent person.

BTW, I consider posts and threads like this as a flamebait, given your history.

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

I already have a boyfriend in real life thanks.

Don't flatter yourself.

-t

Dark Helmet · Apr 6, 2006, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Quoted for emphasis.

Come down from your high horse, you have started countless attacks.
Just because you refrained from it once doesn't make you a bad person.

BTW, I consider posts and threads like this as a flamebait, given your history.

-t

Oh I see, so it is your job to follow and mock this "bad person" you can't seem to get enough of.

Who's on his high horse now

Corpse of Chewbacca · Apr 6, 2006, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Oh I didn't know you were a biologist. Please fill us in on what else is needed as you seem to know better than those scientists.

Belief in the One True Great Spagetty Monster.

turtle777 · Apr 6, 2006, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Oh I see, so it is your job to follow and mock this "bad person" you can't seem to get enough of.

Not when you're posting stuff like this:

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Can we ever talk about science without bringing some jesus crap into it?

So you either bring "jesus crap" in it yourself (like done in the past eleventy billion times), or you wait till somebody takes the bait and then you make a hypocrite statement like the above.

-t

Dark Helmet · Apr 6, 2006, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Not when you're posting stuff like this:

So you either bring "jesus crap" in it yourself (like done in the past eleventy billion times), or you wait till somebody takes the bait and then you make a hypocrite statement like the above.

-t

Thank you MacNN internet police. Show me one other "Jesus crap". Shouldn't be that hard for you since you said there are "eleventy billion".

Why you don't just add me to your ignore list is beyond comprehension other than you got a thing for me

Person Man · Apr 6, 2006, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Right, you have NEVAR EVAR done this under ANY of your SW nicks !

-t

Dark Helmet and SWG are the same person?

I didn't think they were.

turtle777 · Apr 6, 2006, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Person Man

Dark Helmet and SWG are the same person?
I didn't think they were.

Me neither, until recently, when DH had his coming out...

-t

IceEnclosure · Apr 6, 2006, 01:42 PM

this place is stinking badly. and SWG always has a link to his site in his sig, DUH!

or usually.

Dark Helmet · Apr 6, 2006, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by IceEnclosure

this place is stinking badly. and SWG always has a link to his site in his sig, DUH!

or usually.

I know, how braindead does one have to be to not figure that one out?

90% of the members here like to hide as much as possible. I post my phone number.
Chickens.

olePigeon · Apr 6, 2006, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

I post my phone number.

Won't your pimp get mad?

starman · Apr 6, 2006, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Won't your pimp get mad?

I actually lol'd

Kevin · Apr 7, 2006, 05:10 AM

Originally Posted by analogika

You are beyond clueless.

Actually when it comes to this, so are you. You little one liner nellieness is silly.

Originally Posted by Super Mario

Why do creationists tend to look like this

Probably the same reason you so closed minded and dumb?

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Don't bullshit anyone. There is no mention of religion started by me in this thread.

I know I have ask before but do you think it would be possible for you to stop following me around like a little lost Zimphire? Nobody here finds you comments towards me the least bit entertaining and neither do I.

I already have a boyfriend in real life thanks.

100% silly. No one is following you around. People post in threads just like you.

Stop being such a freaking drama queen.

analogika · Apr 7, 2006, 05:51 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Actually when it comes to this, so are you. You little one liner nellieness is silly.

You wish, but you don't know that.

Kevin · Apr 7, 2006, 05:55 AM

I wish what exactly?

analogika · Apr 7, 2006, 06:00 AM

You wish I were as clueless.

It does not take a lot of expertise to know that Doofy's argument about reptiles and amiphibians' skeletons looking "like they're on the verge of transition from water to land" means that he hasn't the slightest idea of what he's talking about.

Kevin · Apr 7, 2006, 06:03 AM

And I am saying, in the bigger picture, either do you.

starman · Apr 7, 2006, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

Oh I see, so it is your job to follow and mock this "bad person" you can't seem to get enough of.

Who's on his high horse now

Dude, you've been playing the "stop following me" crap for years. It's old. Maybe if you didn't post in 99% of the threads around here....