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Cody Dawg · Apr 23, 2006, 02:11 PM

Okay, here's a scenario and I want to hear what some of you would do in this situation.

You live in a nice house in the suburbs.

You rehabilitate wild animals for the Department of Wildlife and Fish and you also keep fancy chickens in the back yard.

You are a nice person and well meaning.

However, the neighbor behind you has cats. In fact, many people in the neighborhood have cats and over the past few years you have had cats in your back yard on numerous occasions. On a couple of occasions you actually caught cats killing your fancy fowl. When you have actually captured a couple of the cats you looked for a tag on the cats and there wasn't any identifying information, including no microchip (which you discovered when you took the cat to the local animal shelter). You have taken some cats to the local animal shelter and dropped them off as is due procedure in most places.

Recently you noticed one cat in particular stalking your fowl and you tried to scare the cat away, but it continues to come into your yard and harass your fowl.

What do you do?

Scotttheking · Apr 23, 2006, 02:20 PM

Cody Dawg · Apr 23, 2006, 02:28 PM

Okay, good answer, I suppose.

Anyone else?

awaspaas · Apr 23, 2006, 02:31 PM

I think anybody that actually cares for their cat will keep it inside or at the very least have proper identification on it. I wouldn't feel bad at all capturing cats that come into my backyard and either keeping them and posting found signs and/or taking them to the humane society.

Cody Dawg · Apr 23, 2006, 02:31 PM

Another good answer.

Any others?

smacintush · Apr 23, 2006, 02:41 PM

I think anyone who really cares for animals wouldn't be keeping any "fancy fowl" prisoner. Animals are not possessions to be collected like knick-knacks.

Get rid of the prisoners, problem goes away.

Cody Dawg · Apr 23, 2006, 02:42 PM

Then you could say that dogs and cats are "prisoners" also.

Wrong answer - start a new thread on what constitutes a "prisoner" okay?

Doofy · Apr 23, 2006, 03:28 PM

Housecats don't tend to kill fowl. It's way too much effort for them.

All five of my cats are free roamers and don't in the slightest bother my resident wild ducks or wild partridges.

smacintush · Apr 23, 2006, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Then you could say that dogs and cats are "prisoners" also.

Wrong answer - start a new thread on what constitutes a "prisoner" okay?

I addressed the problem. Not only that my solution is the most humane so far…in fact he ONLY humane one. Killing animals that are free in order to protect animals that are being held captive is just…ridiculous IMO.

Just because YOU didn't like my solution doesn't mean it doesn't belong in this thread.

Of course it is YOUR thread so if you wish to silence the only voice of true humaneness then I will comply this time.

Good luck murdering or kidnapping innocent cats that are only following their instincts.

Cadaver · Apr 23, 2006, 03:47 PM

Buy a big, mean dog. Let dog eat cats.

smacintush · Apr 23, 2006, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Housecats don't tend to kill fowl. It's way too much effort for them.

All five of my cats are free roamers and don't in the slightest bother my resident wild ducks or wild partridges.

Cats will kill anything that they are able to. I've had free-roaming cats that killed rabbits.

Taking out some inbred chickens in a yard is a FAR cry from wild ducks and partridges.

meelk · Apr 23, 2006, 03:50 PM

killing a cat for simply being a cat and doing cat things would make you a horrible evil bitch.

Eug Wanker · Apr 23, 2006, 03:58 PM

Mmmm... Chicken...

macaddict0001 · Apr 23, 2006, 05:14 PM

scare them off with an air gun, once they feel the sting a few times they won't come back. make sure its not too high velocity, I just got one that shoots 6mm plastic bbs no need for something that shoots 4.5mm metal bbs the plastic ones do just fine.

Tomchu · Apr 23, 2006, 05:24 PM

Why don't you just erect some kind of fence or cage that the cats will have extreme trouble getting into/over? I'm sure you could ask the local animal shelters or home hardware stores for something that would work.

Cody Dawg · Apr 23, 2006, 06:47 PM

Why is ANOTHER PERSON'S CAT out roaming around in MY yard?

(It's not my yard, per se - I'm using myself as an example.)

Doofy · Apr 23, 2006, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Why is ANOTHER PERSON'S CAT out roaming around in MY yard?

Because it's a cat. That's what cats do.

Why have YOU built your yard on THE CAT'S TERRITORY?

pooka · Apr 23, 2006, 06:54 PM

I could come hang out at your house for a while. Trust me, those cats will get the message with a quickness (and walk funny too).

Cody Dawg · Apr 23, 2006, 07:03 PM

Thanks, pooka.

Yes, I'll tell you what: If someone else's cat comes traipsing through my yard I am going to catch it and bring it down to the animal shelter.

Is that unfair?

Scotttheking · Apr 23, 2006, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Thanks, pooka.

Yes, I'll tell you what: If someone else's cat comes traipsing through my yard I am going to catch it and bring it down to the animal shelter.

Is that unfair?

Put up a no trespassing sign. And dogs. Lots of large attack dogs.

Edit: A cat just walked into my room. Oh no! But if I leave it alone, it'll go back to its home.
Edit2: Help, the cat is on my bed! And it is touching my laptop. Help me! Come trap it!

besson3c · Apr 23, 2006, 07:12 PM

You'll nip that cat in the butt.... Get it? Catnip?? HAHAhahahaha...

Doofy · Apr 23, 2006, 07:18 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Yes, I'll tell you what: If someone else's cat comes traipsing through my yard I am going to catch it and bring it down to the animal shelter.

Is that unfair?

Yes, that's unfair.

Will "your" neighbour follow suit and take your kids down to the child services offices if they dare stray into his yard to, say, get their ball back?

Cody Dawg · Apr 23, 2006, 07:20 PM

How can you compare kids to cats?

I'm not talking about an occasional situation where the cat walks through my yard. I'm talking about a cat that craps in my yard, kills chickens and birds - leaving dead animals all over - and there is no proof that it is vaccinated or belongs to anyone.

Doofy · Apr 23, 2006, 07:29 PM

Just put some bleedin' lemons at "your" boundaries. "Your" cat problem will soon be gone.

11011001 · Apr 23, 2006, 07:35 PM

I finally added someone to my ignore list.

Scotttheking · Apr 23, 2006, 07:36 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Will "your" neighbour follow suit and take your kids down to the child services offices if they dare stray into his yard to, say, get their ball back?

My mom and I were on our way home one night when we see a small child in the middle of the street in our neighborhood. I go out to try and find where he belongs. The kid growls at me. I manage to catch him. I look around, and find a house with a front door sitting open. I go there, ring the bell. Nothing happens. I knock. I stick my head in and yell. Finally someone comes to the door, takes the kid, doesn't say much of anything, and closes the door. The kid belonged to this guy. It would have been so nice to have turned the kid over to CPS. But hey, I let cats traverse our back yard, too!

jasonsRX7 · Apr 23, 2006, 07:42 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

I'm not talking about an occasional situation where the cat walks through my yard. I'm talking about a cat that craps in my yard, kills chickens and birds - leaving dead animals all over - and there is no proof that it is vaccinated or belongs to anyone.

Well god damn, you're setting out bait for them, what do you expect? You're lucky you don't have Colonel Sanders traipsing through your yard.

Cody Dawg · Apr 23, 2006, 07:44 PM

Let me tell y'all a little story.

About a year and a half ago a cat came into my porch - without my permission - and when I tried to shoo it away because it was hissing at my 1 year old baby and would not back away (it's a tiled foyer area) I waved my hands at it and guess what? It bit me.

I had to have 24 rabies shots.

Think that's fun?

How would you like to get 24 rabies shots, Doofy?

Be honest.

Cody Dawg · Apr 23, 2006, 07:48 PM

Oh, and think of it another way...

What if it was a dog that kept coming into your yard and killing animals?

Is there a double standard? There shouldn't be.

jasonsRX7 · Apr 23, 2006, 07:50 PM

A bout a year and a half ago a Mormon came into my porch - without my permission - and when I tried to shoo it away because it was preaching at my 1 year old baby and would not shut up, I waved my hands at it and guess what? It anointed me.

I had to have 24 caffeine shots.

Think that's fun?

How would you like to have 24 caffeine shots, Cody?

Don't lie.

smacintush · Apr 23, 2006, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Let me tell y'all a little story.

About a year and a half ago a cat came into my porch - without my permission - and when I tried to shoo it away because it was hissing at my 1 year old baby and would not back away (it's a tiled foyer area) I waved my hands at it and guess what? It bit me.

I had to have 24 rabies shots.

Think that's fun?

How would you like to get 24 rabies shots, Doofy?

Be honest.

Too bad the rabies vaccine is only 5 shots after an exposure…either you are making sh*t up using a 20 year old idea of a rabies vaccine or you need a new doctor.

besson3c · Apr 23, 2006, 07:52 PM

Do you really have chickens in your yard Cody?

Doofy · Apr 23, 2006, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Let me tell y'all a little story.

About a year and a half ago a cat came into my porch - without my permission - and when I tried to shoo it away because it was hissing at my 1 year old baby and would not back away (it's a tiled foyer area) I waved my hands at it and guess what? It bit me.

Hmmm... So you can't even get a cat out of your porch without getting bitten yet you're going to attempt to catch one? Best of luck with that.

What is sounds like you need to do, Cody, is get a cat. That way there'll be no problems with other cats and you might learn how to handle them without getting bitten.

And I'm going to question your recollection of that event. I've never, ever known a cat which will bite as a first defence. Scratching comes first. At least that's what they teach them in the feline dojos around here - ranged attack first, biting as a very last resort.

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

I had to have 24 rabies shots.

Think that's fun?

How would you like to get 24 rabies shots, Doofy?

Be honest.

Sounds like fun, something interesting to do on a weekend.
Mind you, I have an extremely high pain threshold. When I cut my heel off during a biking accident my response was "oh poop, I appear to have cut my heel off", not "arrrrgh!".

smacintush · Apr 23, 2006, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by besson3c

Do you really have chickens in your yard Cody?

Why is it that when I read this I heard banjo music in my head?

Cody Dawg · Apr 23, 2006, 07:57 PM

I'm not making "sh*t" up.

I had to go in every three days and get a shot in each arm and in each thigh. Six times. That's 24 shots.

Stupid ass - don't talk about things you know nothing about. It was at Jupiter Medical Center in Jupiter, Florida where I had to go.

Cody Dawg · Apr 23, 2006, 07:59 PM

Sherwin/Doofy - you're acting like an ass tonight, by the way.

No, it's not my yard that has chickens.

I'm asking because I read this story.

Doofy · Apr 23, 2006, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Oh, and think of it another way...

What if it was a dog that kept coming into your yard and killing animals?

The foxes would probably kill it.

Cody Dawg · Apr 23, 2006, 08:05 PM

Honestly, I have lost any respect I had for you. You're apparently suddenly incapable of rational thought because a cat is involved.

Too bad, Doofy.

Goodnight.

smacintush · Apr 23, 2006, 08:07 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

I'm not making "sh*t" up.

I had to go in every three days and get a shot in each arm and in each thigh. Six times. That's 24 shots.

Stupid ass - don't talk about things you know nothing about. It was at Jupiter Medical Center in Jupiter, Florida where I had to go.

Then you need to go to a REAL medical center.

Doofy · Apr 23, 2006, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Sherwin/Doofy - you're acting like an ass tonight, by the way.

No I'm not. I'm simply not agreeing with you.

I have cats. I have wild fowl who've taken up residence on my lawn. I have resident foxes. I have horses and cows. I have a family of squirrels. I have hedgehogs. And frogs. Next door has chickens.

So I tend to be quite exposed to inter-species warfare. Taking the intruding cats down to the cats home is a stupid thing to be doing. Cats will be cats. They'll do what they do. And to some people, they're their family.

An easy way to get rid of next door's intruding cats is to spit at them. Not spit as in "watery substance from mouth", but "sound like white noise from behind teeth". They understand that language. Do that a few times and they won't be back.

smacintush · Apr 23, 2006, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Stupid ass - don't talk about things you know nothing about. It was at Jupiter Medical Center in Jupiter, Florida where I had to go.

Name calling? How old are you?

Doofy · Apr 23, 2006, 08:31 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Honestly, I have lost any respect I had for you.

Don't worry about it. I'm used to nobody having any respect for me.

Scotttheking · Apr 23, 2006, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

An easy way to get rid of next door's intruding cats is to spit at them. Not spit as in "watery substance from mouth", but "sound like white noise from behind teeth". They understand that language. Do that a few times and they won't be back.

I'm trying that right now. The cat won't move. It is just lying here in my bed staring at me.

Mastrap · Apr 23, 2006, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Just put some bleedin' lemons at "your" boundaries. "Your" cat problem will soon be gone.

This is the correct answer. Cats can't stand the smell of lemon.
And for crying out loud Cody, how many times do we need to have this conversation? We know you don't like free roaming cats, you've made your points in numerous threads already.

Doofy · Apr 23, 2006, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by Scotttheking

I'm trying that right now. The cat won't move. It is just lying here in my bed staring at me.

Doh! It doesn't work when the cat is on its own bed.

Scotttheking · Apr 23, 2006, 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Doh! It doesn't work when the cat is on its own bed.

This is my bed, not her bed!

I stuck some lemon juice at my door, it seems to be working so far.
(Cody: This is all lab testing for you)

Doofy · Apr 23, 2006, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by Scotttheking

This is my bed, not her bed!

The cat made it onto the bed. That means it's now her bed, she just lets you lie in it occasionally.

Buckaroo · Apr 23, 2006, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by Scotttheking

That is one awesome gun. Nothing like a 50mm round to turn a cat into bee-bee size pieces.

Scotttheking · 09:05 PM

re: image^^ coolest looking one from google images

Originally Posted by Doofy

The cat made it onto the bed. That means it's now her bed, she just lets you lie in it occasionally.

Oh well. If I could at least get her to stop molesting my laptop...

Lemon juice failed, she just stuck as far away as possible and still came in.
I think I've terrified her enough for one night, and I don't feel like getting bitten.

meelk · Apr 23, 2006, 09:57 PM

Maybe if you just whine to the cat you'll drive it away Cody. Certainly works here.