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Jun 5, 2006, 09:17 AM
 
Please tomorrow do not forget to thank the people who sacrificed their lives to save us from the world gone half mad.
     
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Jun 5, 2006, 09:44 PM
 
Originally Posted by Monique
Please tomorrow do not forget to thank the people who sacrificed their lives to save us from the world gone half mad.
Si, si!

On June 6, 1944, a date known ever since as D-Day, a mighty armada crossed a narrow strip of sea from England to Normandy, France, and cracked the Nazi grip on western Europe.
     
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Jun 5, 2006, 10:54 PM
 
...and cue the annual rambling of the WWII history revisionist crowd...

Somehow each year the Axis powers get more and more benevolent and the western Allies get more and more villainous.
     
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Jun 5, 2006, 10:56 PM
 
WWII was Bush's fault.
     
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Jun 5, 2006, 11:08 PM
 
^You mean Prescott Bush?
     
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Jun 6, 2006, 08:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by Monique
Please tomorrow do not forget to thank the people who sacrificed their lives to save us from the world gone half mad.
I am touched that you would think to remember them!

Thanks old timers. You WERE our greatest generation!

America should know the political orientation of government officials who might be in a position to adversely influence the future of this country. http://tinyurl.com/4vucu5
     
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Jun 6, 2006, 08:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by baw
WWII was Bush's fault.
The severity and scope of WWII was due, in part, to the Brit & European's failure to take seriously the clear and present danger in their midsts.
America should know the political orientation of government officials who might be in a position to adversely influence the future of this country. http://tinyurl.com/4vucu5
     
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Jun 6, 2006, 09:14 PM
 
Anyone think its ironic I just beat call of duty 2 today?
     
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Jun 7, 2006, 07:13 AM
 
No, Nodnarb. It's not ironic. Not at all.

To build on abe's point, World War II in Europe was just an extension of the First World War, and was precipitated by the rather childish way the Allies tried to punish the losers after defeating them. War reparations were outrageous and crippling-they kept much of Europe from being able to withstand the Depression and may have actually precipitated it there. And they put Germany into a position where a pseudo-populist like Hitler could get traction. For this reason, the victorious Allies in 1945 simply controlled the vanquished countries while they sorted things out. The Marshall Plan, the exact opposite of the punitive war reparations imposed on WWI's losers, meant that Europe got rebuilt and on its feet, to everyone's benefit.

Italian fascism and Japanese imperialism were different issues. Italy had not been a unified country for that long, and the Fascists were working with a diverse group of regional political movements, and used the threat of Communism as a binding force. Note that fascism comes from the latin word fasces, which means bundle; Mousilini "bundled" radical nationalist groups from around Italy to form a coalition that gained power through a variety of means-not all legal.

Japan got its imperial start with the Meiji Restoration, a period of civil war in which the country was organized into a unified, marshal state under a demi-god emperor, and which was precipitated by the "opening" of Japan to the West. Oops. What a goof!
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