[SteveJobs]

Hey everyone,
I'm looking for a new cellphone now and I thought some of you might help me here. Personal experience, additional arguments or new cellphone suggestions are highly welcome!

I currently own a Sony Ericsson K700i which is now nearly two years old and tends to hang itself up here and there, sometimes does some weird things and distinctly looks like welcoming a successor.

What I want:
- Bluetooth
- MMS and E-Mail and GPRS
- A big memory for messages (the K700i can only save 100 messages - which I hate)
- An intelligent and ergonomic interface
- 100g to 150g
- not one that can be opened (what's the English word here?)
- small
- a good stand by time and a good talking time
- the ability to change the message and calling ringtone


So, I don't want much and I've already seen the K750i which seems to be close to what I want, but I'd be happy to consider alternative suggestions.

Thanks in advance!
Steve

[abe]

Philips/AP 4112




Frequency range:
RX: 935.000-944.000 MHz
TX: 890.000-899.000 MHz
System: NMT900
Type: Portable
RF power output: Hi: 6 W, Lo: 1 W
Voltage: 12 VDC
Current drain: RX: 220 mA
TX: Max 2.2 A
Impedance: 50 ohms
Dimensions (W*H*D): 177*93*240 mm
Weight: 4.3 Kg (with battery pack)
Manufactured: 19xx-19xx
Other:

[slanoue]

Motorola SLVR V8. I have the V7 and the 512mb expansion does it for me.

[hickey]

is this the same thread in the peripherals forum?

[ajprice]

Yes it is, and don't get a Motorola

[SpaceMonkey]

SteveJobs, can't you just "borrow" the iPhone prototype? Just go down to the R&D lab and pull a "Batman Begins" kind of stunt. The way I see it, all of that stuff is yours anyway.

[SteveJobs]

Hey,

Thanks for all those replies!

What's so about about Motorola? This cellphone looks pretty neat, I think; so, where's the problem? Many people have recommended sticking with Sony Ericsson and forgetting about the rest of the bunch. What do you say to this?

Greetings,
Ingmar

[hickey]

there was a post a few weeks ago with a link detailing how moto phones leak the highest amount of radiation out of all the manufacturers.

and sony ericsson is the only way to go. best phones, best features.


EDIT: Im pretty sure cross posting is forbidden. just a thought.

[Velocity211]

Sony Ericsson K800i, if you have the money. I sold mine because it cost too much. I currently have a W600i. Should I get the W810?

[hickey]

I just got the W810i and I love it. I highly recommend it.

[RAILhead]

I have an LG8100 with a 1GB mini sd and it freaking rules.

[Apfhex]

Should I reply here, or in Peripherals? The Lounge seems more appropriate for this topic anyway.

Since you're a Mac user and used to Sony Ericsson phones, I think you'd be disappointed with anything else, especially Motorola (if only for their interface).

Originally Posted by SteveJobs

- Bluetooth
- MMS and E-Mail and GPRS
- A big memory for messages (the K700i can only save 100 messages - which I hate)
- An intelligent and ergonomic interface
- 100g to 150g
- not one that can be opened (what's the English word here?)
- small
- a good stand by time and a good talking time
- the ability to change the message and calling ringtone

The word you're looking for is flip. There are flip, candybar (your K700 is one of these), swivel, and slider phones. I just got a W180i myself and love it. It's quad-band with EDGE, has a Memory Stick Pro Duo slot (4GB cards available), good battery life, small and light (99g), and of course has the best interface available! It also has a *good* 2.0 megapixel camera. The K750/W800 are cheaper, though, if that's a factor, and they're very similar, just not quite as good (and no 850MHz). The K790 comes out soon and will be better than the W810.

[macroy]

I just got me one of these......



I haven't had it long enough to like it or hate it... but it seems to have everything you need... I think.

[Severed Hand of Skywalker]

Sony Ericsson M600. Probably the coolest/smallest phone I have ever held.

[Eug Wanker]

I'll probably get the Sony Ericsson K790a.


Screen: 262.144 color TFT, 240x320 pixel

Sound: 72 voices

Memory: 64MB*, Memory Stick Micro™ (M2™) support
*Actual free memory may vary due to phone pre-configuration.

Networks: EDGE, GSM 850, 1800, 1900 <-- Note: The prototypes have included 900 as well.

Size: 105 x 47 x 22 mm (4.1 x 1.8 x .9 inches)
Weight: 115 gr (4.1 oz)

Features:

Imaging
Camera integrated
Video clip
Video record
Video streaming
16xDigital zoom
Autofocus
Camera 3.2 megapixel
Macromedia Flash Lite™
Picture wallpaper
SVG Tiny 1.1
VideoDJ™
Viewfinder display
BestPic™
Image blogging
Image stabilizer
Red eye reduction
Video stabilizer
Wallpaper animation
Xenon flash

Messaging
Email
MMS (Multimedia messaging)
Predictive text input
SMS long (Text messaging)
Sound recorder

Entertainment
FM radio RDS
Games embedded
Java
Media player
Music tones (MP3/AAC)
MusicDJ™
PlayNow™
Polyphonic ringtones
3D games
Flight mode
Mega Bass™ (trademark of Sony Corporation)

Connectivity
Bluetooth™
GPRS
Infrared
USB support
Bluetooth Stereo (A2DP)
EDGE
Fast port
Synchronization PC
USB mass storage

Internet
Access NetFront™ Web Browser
Modem
RSS feeds

Controls
Camera button
Joystick
Vibrating alert

Organizer
Calendar
Contacts
File manager
Memory Stick
PIM Sync
Alarm clock
Business card exchange
Calculator
Conference calls
Phone book
Speakerphone
Stopwatch
Tasks
Timer
Notes

[Matt OS X]

Originally Posted by SteveJobs

Hey everyone,
I'm looking for a new cellphone now and I thought some of you might help me here. Personal experience, additional arguments or new cellphone suggestions are highly welcome!

I currently own a Sony Ericsson K700i which is now nearly two years old and tends to hang itself up here and there, sometimes does some weird things and distinctly looks like welcoming a successor.

Hey SteveJobs,
I thought you own this iPhone?

[Monique]

Originally Posted by SteveJobs

Hey everyone,
I'm looking for a new cellphone now and I thought some of you might help me here. Personal experience, additional arguments or new cellphone suggestions are highly welcome!

I currently own a Sony Ericsson K700i which is now nearly two years old and tends to hang itself up here and there, sometimes does some weird things and distinctly looks like welcoming a successor.

What I want:
- Bluetooth
- MMS and E-Mail and GPRS
- A big memory for messages (the K700i can only save 100 messages - which I hate)
- An intelligent and ergonomic interface
- 100g to 150g
- not one that can be opened (what's the English word here?)
- small
- a good stand by time and a good talking time
- the ability to change the message and calling ringtone


So, I don't want much and I've already seen the K750i which seems to be close to what I want, but I'd be happy to consider alternative suggestions.

Thanks in advance!
Steve

I love your screen name.

I heard that Verizon gives an overall best service and features.

[RAILhead]

Here's a pic of my LG VX8100:

[SSharon]

gsmarena.com is a nice way to look up phones based on what you want in them.

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

I'll probably get the Sony Ericsson K790a.

Well he didn't even mention wanting a camera so suggesting one based around a camera might not blow his skirt up.

[MrsLarry]

^^ I have the VX8100, I like it but Verizon disables many of the features of the phone (i.e. makes you only able to download ringtones from 'Get It Now', of sure, you can download from a 3rd party, but can't actually USE IT.. cripes!)

My take on Verizon:
Service (areas with cell service):
Phones:
"Goodies": :
Customer Service:

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Originally Posted by RAILhead

Here's a pic of my LG VX8100:

Proud of you.

Now tell us how it is not a flip phone like he ask for.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by Socially Awkward Solo

Well he didn't even mention wanting a camera so suggesting one based around a camera might not blow his skirt up.

Well, the K700i is also based around the camera and other multimedia features, and that's the one he already has. Furthermore, the K750 he's looking at also is based around the camera and multimedia features.

One of his complaints also was that the K700i is very limited in terms of memory. Other phones like the K750i he mentioned and the K790a I suggested do not have this limitation, but the K790a seems like it will be a much nicer phone than the K750i. It's up to him whether or not he wants to spend the extra money on the K790a (and wait the few weeks until it's out), but hey, he asked for options.

The other point is that it's quite possible the K790 may be quad band. That may or may not be true, but if it all matters to the poster, then it may be worth waiting a few weeks to see. (The SE website says tri-band, but all the latest prototypes are quad-band, and SE has been known with other phones to switch the specs from tri to quad on its site at the last minute.) In the very least the K790a will have the 850 band, and if he's in the US, then that's a distinct advantage over both the K700i and the K750i.

The M600 you suggested may be an option too, but personally I really dislike the look of that phone.

P.S. I had the K700i. It had serious joystick issues. (The joystick issues are a well-known problem with the K700i in general.) I hope the K790a isn't the same.

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

The M600 you suggested may be an option too, but personally I really dislike the look of that phone.

I thought the same until I saw it in person this weekend. It is literally the best phone I have ever seen. Small and light, perfect for adult hands and stunning features. The pictures don't do it justice.

If it supported 850MHz band I would be all over it.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by Socially Awkward Solo

I thought the same until I saw it in person this weekend. It is literally the best phone I have ever seen. Small and light, perfect for adult hands and stunning features. The pictures don't do it justice.

If it supported 850MHz band I would be all over it.

Yeah, now that Rogers bought out Fido, 850 is more important to me. It seems to me that Fido's urban coverage of 1900 was often better than Rogers' coverage of 1900 is now.

With my phones that do not support 850, I got better reception in certain places when I was on a dedicated Fido network, than I do with the supposedly new and improved Rogers' network.

[mdc]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

P.S. I had the K700i. It had serious joystick issues. (The joystick issues are a well-known problem with the K700i in general.) I hope the K790a isn't the same.

That is the sole reason I am in the market for a new phone.
I'm contemplating the w810i, w800i, and the w850i. I'm holding out until I find a price for the w850i.

[TETENAL]

Originally Posted by MrsLarry

^^ I have the VX8100, I like it but Verizon disables many of the features of the phone (i.e. makes you only able to download ringtones from 'Get It Now', of sure, you can download from a 3rd party, but can't actually USE IT.. cripes!)

You can thank the Republicans for that who just recently voted against the net discrimination law (see the other thread).

[MrsLarry]

Originally Posted by TETENAL

You can thank the Republicans for that who just recently voted against the net discrimination law (see the other thread).

eff'ers

[TETENAL]

I brought my K700i to O₂ due to the joystick issue today. They are doing a repair under guarantee. The funny thing was that they have "joystick issue" in a popup menu of their guarantee form on their computer. So this can't be a rare issue.

[Velocity211]

Originally Posted by TETENAL

I brought my K700i to O₂ due to the joystick issue today. They are doing a repair under guarantee. The funny thing was that they have "joystick issue" in a popup menu of their guarantee form on their computer. So this can't be a rare issue.

Check out my old K700i (the whole joystick broke off and I opened it to see what happened). It got replaced by my W600i. What's the difference between the W800 and the W700 because I'm planning to get a new phone.

[ajprice]

As far as I know, the W700 is pale gold instead of orange and white, and it has less memory built in. Had a quick look between them a while ago and couldn't find any other difference.

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

Yeah, now that Rogers bought out Fido, 850 is more important to me. It seems to me that Fido's urban coverage of 1900 was often better than Rogers' coverage of 1900 is now.

With my phones that do not support 850, I got better reception in certain places when I was on a dedicated Fido network, than I do with the supposedly new and improved Rogers' network.

And that's the reason you get a quad phone.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by Socially Awkward Solo

And that's the reason you get a quad phone.

Yep, and I'm hoping the K790 series will be quad. It's listed as tri, but nonetheless all the latest test models have been quad.

There is no quad version of the K750 series AFAIK.

[ajprice]

Who's Rogers and Fido???

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Originally Posted by ajprice

Who's Rogers and Fido???

The names of 2 Canadian cellphone carriers.

www.rogers.ca
www.fido.ca

[MindFad]

This is lookin' pretty sweet:

[Eug Wanker]

^^^ The W810i seems fine - quad band and 2 MP AF camera. However, I'm still leaning towards the Sony Ericsson K790 series because it's got a 3 MP AF camera and a much better screen (and hopefully is quad band as well).



BTW, does Apple not support any Samsung phones? The Samsung SGH-D900 looks like an interesting option.
Quad band, 3 MP (not AF), and only 13 mm thick.



The Samsung isn't the prettiest phone in the world though. I've also disliked their UI on their previous phones, but apparently it's much improved on their 320x240 phones.

[Socially Awkward Solo]

You guys are pro's at giving him suggestions on stuff you want and not what he ask for.

So far the thread is full of high megapixel camera phones and MP3 players neither of which he ask for.

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by Socially Awkward Solo

You guys are pro's at giving him suggestions on stuff you want and not what he ask for.

So far the thread is full of high megapixel camera phones and MP3 players neither of which he ask for.

Yeah, I want a new phone too, but why don't you let him speak for himself? And he already has a K700i, and is looking to upgrade to the K750, which is phone with a high megapixel camera and MP3 player.

P.S. Does anyone know anything about Samsung phones on OS X?

[Eug Wanker]

How well does iTuneMyWalkman work?

[Peter]

- Bluetooth
Yup
- MMS and E-Mail and GPRS
Yup, Yup and Yup
- A big memory for messages (the K700i can only save 100 messages - which I hate)
Yup. Comes with (free) 512Mb Memory Stick, Expandable to 4Gb.
- An intelligent and ergonomic interface
Sony Ericsson UI is the nicest one you'll find. Tons of themes too.
- 100g to 150g
Weighs 99g
- not one that can be opened (what's the English word here?)
It isnt a flip phone
- small
Height 100
Width 46
Depth 20
- a good stand by time and a good talking time
Standbytime (h) 350
Talktime (m) 480
- the ability to change the message and calling ringtone
You can have anything really, Mp3s, ringtones, voice.... everything

http://www.esato.com/phones/index.php/phone=216

[f1000]

Originally Posted by SteveJobs

What I want:

- MMS and E-Mail and GPRS

Thanks in advance!
Steve

GPRS? Why the heck would anyone want to use GPRS? Consider getting an LG CU500. It'll be the first HSDPA phone from Cingular (1.8 MBps).



Features:
Device Dimensions (L/W/H, Volume) Standard : 96.5 x 49.6 x 19.3 mm
Device Weight (g) 92.5g with Battery
Screen Size (pixels) 176X220
Screen Type (Color, Grayscale, B&W) 262K Color TFT LCD
GSM Band Support (850,900,1800,1900) 850, 900, 1800, 1900
UMTS Band Support: (2100, 1900, 1700, 1900, 850, 800) 850, 1900
Multislot Configuration ((E)GPRS, n x m) EDGE Class10 (4x2)
HSDPA Category Yes
TTY Support (Y/N) Yes
Enhanced Network Selection: (yes, no) Yes
PBCCH Support (Y/N) Yes
Terminal Assisted GPS (Y/N) No
Enhanced Operator Name String (Y/N) Yes
SMS Over GPRS Support (Y/N) Yes
DARP/SAIC (yes, no) No
Network Assisted Cell Change (yes, no) No
Extended Uplink TBF (yes, no) Yes
Extended Dynamic Allocation (yes, no) Yes
Baseband Chipset Vendor Qualcomm
RF Chipset Vendor Qualcomm
1.3M rotating camera
QCIF 2.0" TFT LCD + 1" TFT Sub
Music Player & equalizer
Cingular Video
Multitasking
microSD slot
Dual speaker
Flight mode (Airplane mode)
USB Mass Storage
Bluetooth

[Eug Wanker]

^ FWIW, the W810 (and K790) have EDGE, which is sort of a 3G-lite.

I agree though that using GPRS for internet access is extremely painful. I used it on a business trip once. I haven't used EDGE, but it should be noticeably better.

But alas, I use neither now, because both GPRS service and EDGE service cost too frakkin' much here.

[WinsOBoogi]

I'm a big fan of my old Motorola E815, which I moved away from after I had the need to "go blackberry."

http://www.motorola.com/motoinfo/pro...balObjectId=82

[f1000]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

^ FWIW, the W810 (and K790) have EDGE, which is sort of a 3G-lite.

I agree though that using GPRS for internet access is extremely painful. I used it on a business trip once. I haven't used EDGE, but it should be noticeably better.

But alas, I use neither now, because both GPRS service and EDGE service cost too frakkin' much here.

GPRS was nifty to have around 2002, but it's practically useless as a means for browsing today's Internet. EDGE (2.5G) is far more usable, but it's still sluggish compared to broadband. One nice thing about EDGE is that it's available all over the country; for example, I've been able to use EDGE along Amtrak's Northeast corridor from DC to Boston.

UMTS/EV-DO (3G) has been available for a few years now, and HSDPA (3.5G) is just becoming available. There's no reason for business travelers to settle for an antediluvian EDGE phone anymore, let alone a GPRS phone.

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

How well does iTuneMyWalkman work?

Perfectly on my w600i.

[DigitalEl]

Nokia.

Best radios.
Easiest to use (some would say boring) interface.
Many are iSync compatible with your Mac.

And they run the gamut from the disposable free-with-your-contract POS to the trick $700 import and everything in between.

I loves me some Nokia.

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Originally Posted by DigitalEl

Nokia.

Best radios.
Easiest to use (some would say boring) interface.
Many are iSync compatible with your Mac.

And they run the gamut from the disposable free-with-your-contract POS to the trick $700 import and everything in between.

I loves me some Nokia.

For me the fact that Nokia's have some of the worst battery life on the market kill it for me.

Now I know you are going to say it lasts you a couple days and it is fine etc etc.

I just like going away for a week and not having to bring a charger.

[DigitalEl]

That's fair SWG. Different strokes.

I'm carrying a BlackBerry right now and long for that "couple days" Nokia gave me.

I'm jonesing for a new phone purchase.

[Socially Awkward Solo]

Originally Posted by DigitalEl

That's fair SWG. Different strokes.

I'm carrying a BlackBerry right now and long for that "couple days" Nokia gave me.

I'm jonesing for a new phone purchase.

Why don't you have a look at the Sony Ericsson m600. It has blackberry support and a much better battery, plus it is smaller.