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Cody Dawg · Jun 26, 2006, 07:23 PM

Seriously, I'm watching an interview on television about a man who just said, "I noticed in high school that I was paying more attention to guys than I was to girls and after a while I started to realize that I must be gay."

Okay, I do not think that I'm gay, but I'm attracted to attractive people. For instance, I admire beautiful women, women who are smart, women who are just attractive in various ways. If I walk into a room and see a beautiful woman sitting there I will go over and sit down next to her rather than someone else like a retired older woman, for example, who isn't necessarily attractive (though I have seen some beautiful older women - Lauren Hutton was at a benefit recently and she is just astoundingly beautiful). It's not even a conscious decision - I'm attracted to attractive women, I admit.

On the other hand, I can say the same thing about attractive men and being naturally drawn to them.

But, I never considered actually having a sexual relationship with a woman...it does nothing for me...despite admiring how beautiful or sexy a woman is or can be. I am sexually attracted to the opposite sex, men. (Well, man, since I'm married.

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Here is another thing: In high school I distinctly remember paying more attention to the girls rather than the boys. I paid attention to how female peers wore clothes, hair, accessories. I wanted to make sure that my sense of style corresponded. It was important to keep up in that way. And of course hanging out with girls led to friendship with other girls, also important at that time. I didn't cultivate friendships with boys the same way.

Therefore, based on that presumption, I too might have said, "I pay more attention to women than to men...I must be gay." Just like the man in the interview that I was watching. Why couldn't he have been peer correlating the way a lot of teens do, comparing himself in a social setting with male peers so that he meets subconscious social group criteria, an unconscious desire to belong? Why did he decide that his correlations must mean that he's gay?

So, how do you know when you're gay? And, don't you think that some people are confused and they aren't really gay...they were just confused?

Here's the last thing...how can a teenager decide he or she is gay if he or she has never been with the opposite sex in his or her life?

Dakar · Jun 26, 2006, 07:28 PM

There's that third option you know.

Aren't women more predisposed to this type of behaviour anyway?

Cody Dawg · Jun 26, 2006, 07:35 PM

What are you talking about? Bisexuality? No, I don't think so. My husband jokes about that - I think a lot of men have a fantasy of women liking women because it's their fantasy...but it doesn't make it true.

For the record, though, no I have no desire to be with a woman and once when my husband made a joke about it for the umpteenth time I cornered him and asked him if he would really like me to be with a woman and he thought about it and said no. There was one time down in Miami Beach with a friend of mine named Ingrid who was partying with us and Ingrid is definitely attracted to women. She was dancing with me, paying attention to me, and my husband got very jealous - the same way as she were a man. He reminded me of that incident and said that he wouldn't like it (if I were with a woman), no.

Dakar · Jun 26, 2006, 07:36 PM

I'm just saying though... Your question seemed more geared towards the bi-crowd.

scaught · Jun 26, 2006, 07:43 PM

you certainly read what you wanted into the "paying more attention to" part of that quote.

Dakar · Jun 26, 2006, 07:45 PM

n/m

Cody Dawg · Jun 26, 2006, 07:46 PM

Well, it was what he said. "He paid more attention to boys in high school."

So he decided that he's gay.

He never had any experiences with girls or women in school, so he decided that he's gay.

I'm trying to understand the leap between paying more attention to boys and deciding to have sexual relationships with them, that's all.

Doofy · Jun 26, 2006, 07:55 PM

Could it be that "paying more attention to boys in high school" is a polite, TV-friendly way of saying "got a raging chubby when looking at the other guys in the showers"?

Gossamer · Jun 26, 2006, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Could it be that "paying more attention to boys in high school" is a polite, TV-friendly way of saying "got a raging chubby when looking at the other guys in the showers"?

Talk about awkward...

Severed Hand of Skywalker · Jun 26, 2006, 07:57 PM

Why are you so interested anyway? You guys having thoughts on your own sexuality?

Cody Dawg · Jun 26, 2006, 07:58 PM

Doofy, I don't know. Could it be?

I honestly don't know. He didn't say that. He said he was 13 and he was paying attention to other boys. It seems to me that most, not all but most, 13 year olds are still paying more attention to boys than to girls anyway. I take my 13-year old to school and every day that I pull up there are groups of boys and groups of girls all standing around talking to each other in groups of the same sex. They're still at that age when they're not really intermingling.

Severed Hand, no, I'm not confused about my sexuality,

I'm just questioning how this kid arrived at the idea that he must be gay because I think he was confused and didn't have good parenting that helped him to understand his feelings. I'm not saying that more involvement with his parents would have mattered, but I'm saying that if he was confused and didn't have someone to talk things out with then he might make erroneous assumptions, you know?

Gossamer · Jun 26, 2006, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker

Why are you so interested anyway? You guys having thoughts on your own sexuality?

Why does somebody starting a thread about gays always mean they want to turn to the dark side?

Dakar · Jun 26, 2006, 08:08 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

It seems to me that most, not all but most, 13 year olds are still paying more attention to boys than to girls anyway. I take my 13-year old to school and every day that I pull up there are groups of boys and groups of girls all standing around talking to each other in groups of the same sex.

That might be, but I seem to remember getting a real kick out of looking up girls dresses when I was in 3rd grade, and I've loved cleavage since I was 5.

So, yeah I might have been hanging out with da boys, but I was still being distracted by da girls. I think the other guys implication is he was being distracted by da boys.

Landos Mustache · Jun 27, 2006, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

Why does somebody starting a thread about gays always mean they want to turn to the dark side?

Cuz you are neck deep in any gay thread. Just like superchicken was...

And who said me wanting any of you on the "dark side". I'll pass thanks.
It is just funny watching how interested some of you are.

When was the last time a gay guy started a thread about "how do you know if you like snatch"?

Eug Wanker · Jun 27, 2006, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Seriously, I'm watching an interview on television about a man who just said, "I noticed in high school that I was paying more attention to guys than I was to girls and after a while I started to realize that I must be gay."

What's with the

? It seems like a reasonable statement to make. Doofy said it best:

Originally Posted by Doofy

Could it be that "paying more attention to boys in high school" is a polite, TV-friendly way of saying "got a raging chubby when looking at the other guys in the showers"?

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

When was the last time a gay guy started a thread about "how do you know if you like snatch"?

I hear it's a good movie. Haven't seen it though.

Landos Mustache · Jun 27, 2006, 09:19 AM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

I hear it's a good movie. Haven't seen it though.

I looooooove snatch!

Cody Dawg · Jun 27, 2006, 09:23 AM

It was the last good movie Ritchie ever made. Then he married "Maudonna" and it's all over for him. Speaking of which, I hear that their train has come and gone and it's all over for them, also.

ort888 · Jun 27, 2006, 09:27 AM

Sleep with a woman and see how you like it.

Cody Dawg · Jun 27, 2006, 09:28 AM

^^^

Dakar · Jun 27, 2006, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Eug Wanker

What's with the

? It seems like a reasonable statement to make. Doofy said it best:

I hear it's a good movie. Haven't seen it though.

I don't think I can name another movie whose soundtrack is both as good and as essential to the film as that one.

Edit:

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

I looooooove snatch!

The truth comes out!

Dakar · Jun 27, 2006, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

It was the last good movie Ritchie ever made. Then he married "Maudonna" and it's all over for him. Speaking of which, I hear that their train has come and gone and it's all over for them, also.

What movies has he made since then?

Edit: Very clever of me not to edit this post into the last one.

yakkiebah · Jun 27, 2006, 09:32 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar

I don't think I can name another movie whose soundtrack is both as good and as essential to the film as that one.

Fight Club?

Landos Mustache · Jun 27, 2006, 09:33 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar

What movies has he made since then?

Edit: Very clever of me not to edit this post into the last one.

Swept Away?

Or was that before? It was horrid.

Cody Dawg · Jun 27, 2006, 09:34 AM

Fight Club was critically panned.

But, I guess you could say that it was okay, yes, I'll give you that.

Swept Away (should have been Swept Away Under The Carpet) was made after he married Maudonna.

Dakar · Jun 27, 2006, 09:36 AM

Fight Club wasn't Ritchie.

And yeah, I guess Swept Away would be a piece of crap, but then again, you could blame the genre just easily.

Landos Mustache · Jun 27, 2006, 09:37 AM

Lock stock was also a great movie but before snatch.

BRussell · Jun 27, 2006, 09:38 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

How Do You Know If You're Gay?

You know how gay people have a gaydar? They just point it at themselves.

yakkiebah · Jun 27, 2006, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar

Fight Club wasn't Ritchie.

And yeah, I guess Swept Away would be a piece of crap, but then again, you could blame the genre just easily.

Ok i thought you meant movies in general not just the ones made by Ritchie( he didn't make that many).

Monique · Jun 27, 2006, 09:40 AM

I knew I was not a lesbian after a girl tried to french kiss me.

Dakar · Jun 27, 2006, 09:41 AM

Originally Posted by yakkiebah

Ok i thought you meant movies in general not just the ones made by Ritchie( he didn't make that many).

Yeah, I see what aspect you responded too. Yes, probably the best ambient soundtrack I know of. The power drill in Stealing Fat is enthralling.

Dakar · Jun 27, 2006, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Lock stock was also a great movie but before snatch.

Yup. So the basic conclusion is he doesn't have a real body after the marriage of work to judge.

He did do that one BMW film with Madonna that was alright. "Star", I believe.

Landos Mustache · Jun 27, 2006, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar

Yup. So the basic conclusion is he doesn't have a real body after the marriage of work to judge.

He did do that one BMW film with Madonna that was alright. "Star", I believe.

Star was boring.

Landos Mustache · Jun 27, 2006, 09:45 AM

Originally Posted by Monique

I knew I was not a lesbian after a girl tried to french kiss me.

But you thought you might be before?

yakkiebah · Jun 27, 2006, 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Dakar

Yeah, I see what aspect you responded too. Yes, probably the best ambient soundtrack I know of. The power drill in Stealing Fat is enthralling.

Ambient?? I don't want to sound like a genre fascist but that's no ambient man.

Abit667 · Jun 27, 2006, 09:47 AM

I heard being a mac user is pretty conclusive evidence that you're gay.

Landos Mustache · Jun 27, 2006, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Abit667

I heard being a mac user is pretty conclusive evidence that you're gay.

Especially if you work in an Apple Store.

yakkiebah · Jun 27, 2006, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by Abit667

I heard being a mac user is pretty conclusive evidence that you're gay.

Because of it's manly powers?

Angus_D · Jun 27, 2006, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Seriously, I'm watching an interview on television about a man who just said, "I noticed in high school that I was paying more attention to guys than I was to girls and after a while I started to realize that I must be gay."

As others have pointed out, this is almost certainly meant in the sense of being more attracted to guys than girls. Paying them attention in a sexual fashion. You know. Like if a hot guy walks past, you'd notice and check out his ass, and your heart would race a little bit, whereas if a hot girl walked past you probably wouldn't think twice about it. Sure, you might notice and might be able to appreciate her being attractive, but you wouldn't be so bothered and certainly wouldn't go weak at the knees. Hence, paying guys more attention than girls.

Get it now? You see, I even avoided the raging boner in an attempt to keep it to something you could relate to.

Dakar · Jun 27, 2006, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by yakkiebah

Ambient?? I don't want to sound like a genre fascist but that's no ambient man.

No that's okay, I'm no genre expert. But Tracks 1 & 3 are what I'd consider ambient as hell.

Eug Wanker · Jun 27, 2006, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Fight Club was critically panned.

No it wasn't. 81% positive on Rotten Tomatoes.

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Swept Away?

Or was that before? It was horrid.

You watched Swept Away? I know you like Madonna and all, but I thought you had more sense than that.

Chuckit · Jun 27, 2006, 10:03 AM

I took there to be an implicit "in the shower" after "pay attention to guys."

Cody Dawg · Jun 27, 2006, 10:05 AM

Angus_D: That actually made a lot of sense!

Gossamer · Jun 27, 2006, 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Cuz you are neck deep in any gay thread. Just like superchicken was...

:shrug:
Three posts wouldn't make me neck deep. Like I've said before, I've got a girlfriend that I'm very happy with, no problems here.

Cody Dawg · Jun 27, 2006, 10:12 AM

Regarding Fight Club and critics not liking it?

The critics panned the movie. They especially hated the ending. If you peruse some of the early reviews by the big name critics, they all have the same mantra…MTV filmmaking, pointless, juvenile, empty, all flash and no bang, etc. It’s funny how the film is now regarded in many circles as one of the best films of the 90s - a bit of revisionist history.

Link

Fight Club

The relative disappointment of The Game, however, did little to dim the excitement that accompanied Fincher's next project, Fight Club, a screen adaptation of Chuck Palahniuk's novel of the same name about two men who open up a club devoted exclusively to bare knuckles fighting for males. Featuring a sterling cast that included Edward Norton, Helena Bonham Carter, and Se7en collaborator Brad Pitt, the 1999 film was easily one of the most publicized of the year but was an early disappointment at the box-office and received mixed reviews. Fueled in equal measure by stylistic audacity and the spirit of disenfranchised machismo, Fight Club the film was panned by most critics (called "macho porn" by Roger Ebert) and alienated audiences leading to its box office failure in the United States.

Wikipedia link.

I guess some people liked it. I didn't care for it. In fact, I fell asleep watching it.

Gossamer · Jun 27, 2006, 10:14 AM

I think it was one of those movies that gained a cult following after it left the box office. Kind of like Office Space.

Landos Mustache · Jun 27, 2006, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Gossamer

I've got a girlfriend that I'm very happy with, no problems here.

Yet suddenly you are very paranoid about any pics of her that were on the net. Hmmm.

yakkiebah · Jun 27, 2006, 10:18 AM

Some people liked it? I've never met anyone who didn't like it.

Dakar · Jun 27, 2006, 10:18 AM

Its definitely a cult title, as you say. For those that like the book (usually), or the message, it is most definitely held in high regard.

Part of the appeal is that there are so few movies like it out there.

Gossamer · Jun 27, 2006, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by Landos Mustache

Yet suddenly you are very paranoid about any pics of her that were on the net. Hmmm.

Because I don't have her permission. There are some less-than-honorable people out there and it would kill me if something bad happened to her pictures.

Dakar · Jun 27, 2006, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by yakkiebah

Some people liked it? I've never met anyone who didn't like it.

Talk to people over 40. Your odds go up considerably.