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Suspended Animation test successful, human clinical trials to start soon.
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http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/1...osts.html?pg=4
Awesome! 
They gave the pig life threatening injury, then hooked her circulatory system up and pumped her full of some really cold solution (complete with special bacteria [not mentioned] that eat harmful particals) and dropped her core body temperature to only 10 C. All brain activity suspended and she was "mostly dead" (heh) for about 2 hours while they repaired the injury. She then recovered.
People who get shot, stabbed, whatever, that could die within minutes could be "frozen" for hours while life saving surgery is performed.
That's just amazing. 
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awsome. If this works for a few hours now, just imagine how well it will work a decade or two, or three from now. Journeys to the outer reaches of space will be possible!
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Humperdink Cryogenics lab.
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Originally Posted by UNTeMac
Humperdink Cryogenics lab.
Miracle Pill Theropy Institute. To help you cope with being "mostly dead." Free cloaks and chocolate coated nuts.
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Would the body heal while suspended? Or are all functions shut down?
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Originally Posted by olePigeon
Miracle Pill Theropy Institute. To help you cope with being "mostly dead." Free chocolate coated nuts and cloaks.
But don't go swimming for at least and hour...yeah...a good hour.
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Originally Posted by Rumor
Would the body heal while suspended? Or are all functions shut down?
Good question, I don't know. If brain activity stops, I would imagine healing would be suspended as well.
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Originally Posted by olePigeon
Good question, I don't know. If brain activity stops, I would imagine healing would be suspended as well.
Healing doesn't happen because the brain wills it to, it happens at the cellular level, independent of a higher brain function.
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I would imagine that this would be for plugging leaks and repairing damage to the body. The healing would begin after you were restored to normal temperature.
Originally Posted by Rumor
Would the body heal while suspended? Or are all functions shut down?
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Didn't htey do this with dogs like YEARS ago? I'm pretty sure they did.
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yep. close. They brought a beagle to clinical death by slowly chilling him and kept him in that "suspended animation" for a good amount of time, then brought him back to life. The difference here is that the pig was dealt injuries and injected with a solution. The beagle had neither of those done to it.
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MS has been doing this with Vista for years!
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Originally Posted by Salty
MS has been doing this with Vista for years!
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Cool. Cured pork.
Originally Posted by Nicko
awsome. If this works for a few hours now, just imagine how well it will work a decade or two, or three from now. Journeys to the outer reaches of space will be possible!
Pigs in Spaaaace!
The first ham sandwich on Mars!
A giant leap for Pig-kind.
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Originally Posted by smacintush
Healing doesn't happen because the brain wills it to, it happens at the cellular level, independent of a higher brain function.
Right answer, wrong answer. The body heals through local and systemic systems, but the brain doesn't really "direct" this. It's a complex chain of cause and effect relationships, not a managed process. But it won't happen if metabolic activity is reduced below some (relatively high) threshold.
This sounds like a very good way to stabilize a patient for transport without actually stabilizing them-sort of an effective way to stop the patient in their current state so you can transport them to a high-level trauma center that might be able to treat them, in spite of being many miles and hours away.
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Originally Posted by ghporter
Right answer, wrong answer. The body heals through local and systemic systems, but the brain doesn't really "direct" this. It's a complex chain of cause and effect relationships, not a managed process. But it won't happen if metabolic activity is reduced below some (relatively high) threshold.
Yeah, the post I was responding to mentioned the brain specifically. I wasn't even thinking about metabolism.
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thats very very very awesome. imagine though, if that got into the wrong hands and the next hitler can be healed even if shot fatally
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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock
imagine though, if that got into the wrong hands and the next hitler can be healed even if shot fatally
Oh well, that's life.
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isn't life suposed to be, if you get wounded (in any way) to a state that your body can't stay alive naturally than you die?
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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock
thats very very very awesome. imagine though, if that got into the wrong hands and the next hitler can be healed even if shot fatally
well, we will have to make sure we really f*ck that new hitler up. with big heavy dual machine guns. not with some piddly sniper rifle.
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Originally Posted by kick52
well, we will have to make sure we really f*ck that new hitler up. with big heavy dual machine guns. not with some piddly sniper rifle.
  thank you for that, i needed a good cuckle.
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No, I'm positive that they did this with dogs WITH a cold solution years ago. Google it. I found mentions of it, just not an actual story. This is old news.
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Originally Posted by kick52
well, we will have to make sure we really f*ck that new hitler up. with big heavy dual machine guns. not with some piddly sniper rifle.
Nah, sniper rifle to the back of the head would be perfectly adequate. There ain't no cure for "head blowed up," no matter how long they can freeze you.
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But don't go swimming for at least and hour...yeah...a good hour.
To Blave!!!
Seriously... this is great. If its successful in humans, I'd have it done in a second if I were in an accident and needed serious surgery, or had a terminal cancer or something similar. Anyone see the movie A.I.? In the movie, when someone was in suspended animation awaiting a cure, they called it "pending."
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Healing process would be neglible due to the fact that they are retarding the bodies metabolic functions so drastically with that cold solution.
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Originally Posted by Stogieman
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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock
isn't life suposed to be, if you get wounded (in any way) to a state that your body can't stay alive naturally than you die?
Then we make bigger weapons to kill with.
That's the natural cycle of things. As our medical technology advances, and we can save more lives from what were previously lethal injuries, we then create bigger, badder, more destructive weapons to counter our ability to save lives.
Ahhhh humanity!
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Originally Posted by ::maroma::
Then we make bigger weapons to kill with.
That's the natural cycle of things. As our medical technology advances, and we can save more lives from what were previously lethal injuries, we then create bigger, badder, more destructive weapons to counter our ability to save lives.
Ahhhh humanity!
I don't think weapons technology has advanced simply because medical tech has. We've got plenty of weapons that could fark someone up pretty bad. A single well placed bullet will do that, but if you're not that good of an aim, take a couple shots from point blank and there's no recovering.
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Originally Posted by Gossamer
I don't think weapons technology has advanced simply because medical tech has. We've got plenty of weapons that could fark someone up pretty bad. A single well placed bullet will do that, but if you're not that good of an aim, take a couple shots from point blank and there's no recovering.
I was being facetious. But I do wonder why we continue to make more lethal weaponry. While it may not be directly linked to strictly medical advances, I believe that it is linked to our advances in technology that saves lives. Such as body armor (of all kinds), medical advances (both in the hospitals and on the battlefields), etc.
But I suppose one could make a solid argument for the reverse. That our life saving technologies are born out of our insatiable lust for more destructive weaponry.
But thats for another thread.. or forum.
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Originally Posted by brassplayersrock
isn't life suposed to be, if you get wounded (in any way) to a state that your body can't stay alive naturally than you die?
Is this a serious question?
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My question is...if the freeze my body for like, 100 years, will I have freezer burn?
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