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mac-at-kearsarge · Aug 7, 2006, 11:19 AM

Since I know the mods don't want a gazillion individual threads popping up afterward, I'm prepping by starting this thread.

If actions of past ketynotes remain true, the boards (or at least the lounge) will be shutdown during the show.

Once it is back up, please use this thread to post your praises, gripes, comments, and anything else related to the keynote. Thank you.

P.S. The reason for the early creation of this thread is so I can warn you: There is a highly strong chance Roz Ho is going to be speaking for MS again. Please prepare for such however you feel is nessacary with pillows, ear plugs, emergancy mute buttons, ect. Visual blocks are not necessary as she's kind of cute (or maybe I just think that because she's asian, I don't know).

Anyways enjoy the show, I look forward to our banter afterwards.

turtle777 · Aug 7, 2006, 11:20 AM

Furst post. Woooot.

-t

ajprice · Aug 7, 2006, 11:25 AM

Interesting note from the macrumors feed -

9:18 am
http://static.flickr.com/59/20909705...ecd4ae.jpg?v=0

8:11 am
from AppleMatters: "Interestingly Apple has 5.8 ghz wireless that only works on the new Macbook Pro. Stayed tuned."

The Jesus · Aug 7, 2006, 11:29 AM

THE NEW VIDEOCARDS SUCK! WTF APPLE! WHY DO YOU HAVE TO INSTALL SUCH OUTDATED CRAP!

There. The Jesus hath already spoken the truth.

Lateralus · Aug 7, 2006, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by mac-at-kearsarge

Since I know the mods don't want a gazillion individual threads popping up afterward, I'm prepping by starting this thread.

Stuckified™

MaxPower2k3 · Aug 7, 2006, 11:30 AM

woudln't that 5.8GHz network just be 802.11a, which is part of the intel chipset used in the MBPs (but not advertised by Apple)?

turtle777 · Aug 7, 2006, 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by The Jesus

THE NEW VIDEOCARDS SUCK! WTF APPLE! WHY DO YOU HAVE TO INSTALL SUCH OUTDATED CRAP!

How is that news ?

-t

TheoCryst · Aug 7, 2006, 11:41 AM

It's begun... The Apple store is down...

Goldfinger · Aug 7, 2006, 11:59 AM

OMG MacNN is still online ?

turtle777 · Aug 7, 2006, 12:01 PM

Yeah, I was wondering.

LAST POST BEFORE WWDC break.

-t

Ghoser777 · Aug 7, 2006, 12:09 PM

They asked everyone to move towards the center? When I was there last time, there was barely any seating (that was 2001). Did they just get a really big room or what?

TheoCryst · Aug 7, 2006, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by Goldfinger

OMG MacNN is still online ?

Barely. Have you tried actually loading pages? I'm having dialup flashbacks over here...

*seizure*

lpkmckenna · Aug 7, 2006, 12:11 PM

So they're keeping the same case, upped to 2 optical bays

Dark Helmet · Aug 7, 2006, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

So they're keeping the same case, upped to 2 optical bays

Better have room for 4 hard drives then!

TheoCryst · Aug 7, 2006, 12:11 PM

w00t, 3 GHz! Take THAT PowerPC!

lpkmckenna · Aug 7, 2006, 12:12 PM

room for 4 hard drives

mac-at-kearsarge · Aug 7, 2006, 12:13 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

So they're keeping the same case, upped to 2 optical bays

Wow, it sounds like Steve jumped right into the new products and didn't spend the usual first 20 mins talking about how they've been doing the past few quarters (or is that only a Expo thing?).

lpkmckenna · Aug 7, 2006, 12:15 PM

I'm glad they've kept the case. The case just screams "serious computer."

BRussell · Aug 7, 2006, 12:15 PM

So they're all dual dual-core?

lpkmckenna · Aug 7, 2006, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by mac-at-kearsarge

Wow, it sounds like Steve jumped right into the new products and didn't spend the usual first 20 mins talking about how they've been doing the past few quarters (or is that only a Expo thing?).

Leopard will be the real star of the show.

standard:
2.6 Ghz dual
256 MB ram
Superdrive
$2499

TheoCryst · Aug 7, 2006, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by mac-at-kearsarge

Wow, it sounds like Steve jumped right into the new products and didn't spend the usual first 20 mins talking about how they've been doing the past few quarters (or is that only a Expo thing?).

Maybe he just wants that much time to talk about Leopard? *drools over Leopard*

Hmm, $2499 for the bottom-of-the-line MacPro... not bad at all!

Brien · Aug 7, 2006, 12:17 PM

Default RAM is lacking

lpkmckenna · Aug 7, 2006, 12:18 PM

"transition finishes today - just 210 days" - does that mean new XServe too?

mac-at-kearsarge · Aug 7, 2006, 12:18 PM

Originally Posted by TheoCryst

Maybe he just wants that much time to talk about Leopard? *drools over Leopard*

Hmm, $2499 for the bottom-of-the-line MacPro... not bad at all!

Excellent point.

BRussell · Aug 7, 2006, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by mac-at-kearsarge

Wow, it sounds like Steve jumped right into the new products and didn't spend the usual first 20 mins talking about how they've been doing the past few quarters (or is that only a Expo thing?).

Yeah in 15 minutes he's done with the big product announcement.

He's now onto xserves.

Demonhood · Aug 7, 2006, 12:19 PM

256MB or RAM? you've got to be kidding me.

TheoCryst · Aug 7, 2006, 12:20 PM

Wait, 256MB RAM? No way that can be right... though both 'NN and MacRumors claim this. Something fishy about that...

Ooh, ATi x1900.

lpkmckenna · Aug 7, 2006, 12:21 PM

Xeon Xserves.

Stradlater · Aug 7, 2006, 12:21 PM

256 MB video RAM
Comes with 1 GB

Pics of the keynote slides...
http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/07/l...-jobs-keynote/

Peabo · Aug 7, 2006, 12:21 PM

Even their bottom of the line consumer products have more than 256 megs of ram! What's going on there?

TheoCryst · Aug 7, 2006, 12:22 PM

Here comes Leopard... only 22 minutes into the show.

BRussell · Aug 7, 2006, 12:24 PM

It's interesting that he delegated Phil to intro the Mac Pro.

And it comes with 1 gig of RAM, not 256.

lpkmckenna · Aug 7, 2006, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Stradlater

256 MB video RAM
Comes with 1 GB

Pics of the keynote slides...
http://www.engadget.com/2006/08/07/l...-jobs-keynote/

MacRumors screwed up, I guess.

Demonhood · Aug 7, 2006, 12:25 PM

oooh, xserves. now i can finally buy one.

lpkmckenna · Aug 7, 2006, 12:29 PM

if you can't innovate, impersonate (shows pic of Elvis impersonator)

davesimondotcom · Aug 7, 2006, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

MacRumors screwed up, I guess.

Thank Jeebus!

I was pretty sure that had to be wrong. 256 MB of default RAM would be useless on a machine like that. 16 GB max RAM would be drool worthy!! (Not that I can afford that!)

lpkmckenna · Aug 7, 2006, 12:32 PM

"in leopard - giant leap forward - extend support all the way through UI framework into applications"

lpkmckenna · Aug 7, 2006, 12:33 PM

"top secret features not being shown, just not letting you know what they are."

What does that mean?

Dark Helmet · Aug 7, 2006, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

"top secret features not being shown, just not letting you know what they are."

What does that mean?

They aren't going to show you some off the cool apps like Spotlight type apps till it ships.

Genemaster · Aug 7, 2006, 12:36 PM

macNN live coverage sucks! no update sine 10:28!!! Updates on average only every 10min, sucks! Go to MacDaily or AppleMatters for a fast and LIVE coverage!

Ghoser777 · Aug 7, 2006, 12:36 PM

Time machine... isn't that functionality in Vista that microsoft was getting beaten up about on slashdot not too long ago?

Dark Helmet · Aug 7, 2006, 12:36 PM

How is backup software not coping the other guys? Bad timing after that lecture about copying.

Rental · Aug 7, 2006, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by lpkmckenna

I'm glad they've kept the case. The case just screams "serious computer."

It's too god damn big. That said I still want one. Maybe in a year or so.

turtle777 · Aug 7, 2006, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

They aren't going to show you some off the cool apps like Spotlight type apps till it ships.

I doubt they can keep it from leaking. All the major s/w developers would need beta versions to test for compatibility. Apples either won't include it in beta, and face the risk of it failing due to incompatibility, or, they will include it, and it will leak.

-t

lpkmckenna · Aug 7, 2006, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

I doubt they can keep it from leaking. All the major s/w developers would need beta versions to test for compatibility. Apples either won't include it in beta, and face the risk of it failing due to incompatibility, or, they will include it, and it will leak.

I guess the "preview release" to devs with not be feature complete, then?

TheoCryst · Aug 7, 2006, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Ghoser777

Time machine... isn't that functionality in Vista that microsoft was getting beaten up about on slashdot not too long ago?

This is different... on Vista, all the backup data is stored on the same partition. Time Machine looks like it backs up to an external drive, and makes recovery easier. Sounds cool so far.

lpkmckenna · Aug 7, 2006, 12:41 PM

very cool icon

davesimondotcom · Aug 7, 2006, 12:42 PM

I want to see the cool visuals associated with Time Machine. Sounds pretty sweet.

fhoubi · Aug 7, 2006, 12:43 PM

My memory my memory... The Finder/desktop "warps" back to place in time! Wasn't that the video some time ago we all though it was a fake?

davesimondotcom · Aug 7, 2006, 12:43 PM

That is a sweet icon - just the clock with the arrow going counter clockwise is nice.