[macfantn]

who's gonna win? i like most of the remaining acts, well except that damn harmonica kid he is annoying. i think quick change may win or that 12 yr old soul singer

[macfantn]

please don't let the harmonica kid win lol

[macfantn]

i knew it the 12 yr old won

[olePigeon]

Is that the name of the show? "America's Got Talent" ?

Maybe they should rename it to, "America's Failing English"

[Kerrigan]

America Has Got Talent is correct English, so you fail olePigeon

[UNTeMac]

That harmonica kid is a hack who never should've made it past the 3rd round or so. Pierce doesn't know **** about American music when he called that kid the greatest harmonica player in the country right now.

[olePigeon]

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

America Has Got Talent is correct English, so you fail olePigeon

You're mixing Present tense and Past tense. How is that correct?

[lavar78]

Originally Posted by olePigeon

You're mixing Present tense and Past tense. How is that correct?

"Have got" is equivalent to "have" for possession.

"I have got a cold" = "I have a cold"

[demograph68]

David Hasselhoff as a judge for talent? The show loses all credibility for me.

[invisibleX]

Originally Posted by demograph68

David Hasselhoff as a judge for talent? The show loses all credibility for me.

My greatest disappointment was hasselhoff not catching fire and the stripper not winning.

I knew it was going to be one of these damn child prodigies.

[Kerrigan]

Originally Posted by olePigeon

You're mixing Present tense and Past tense. How is that correct?

You have got to be joking. Where did you learn English?

[macfantn]

i did love the stripper's dance with kit from knight rider, classic. i also really enjoyed bobby badfingers. He was hilarious to me for some reason.

[olePigeon]

Have = Present Tense of "Has"
Got = Past Tense of "Get"
Both "has" and "get" indicate possession.

You don't "have got" anything, that's stupid. First, you're using two adjacent verbs that mean practically the same thing, it adds redundancy. Secondly, one is present tense, the other is past tense. You don't mix tenses in the same sentence.

That's like saying "I travel traveresed on the street." OK... are you traveling? Or had you traversed? You can't use both.

Originally Posted by lavar78

"Have got" is equivalent to "have" for possession.

"I have got a cold" = "I have a cold"

"Got" is past tense, "have" is present tense, and they're both posessive verbs. You can't use them in the same sentence.

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

You have got to be joking. Where did you learn English?

You have to be joking, I learned this in 3rd grade. Most people learn about past, present, and future conjugation. Colloquialisms rarely follow proper grammar structure, they make learning foreign languages difficult.

[Rumor]

This is where I chime in and say "Who cares?"

[Gossamer]

Originally Posted by Rumor

This is where I chime in and say "Who cares?"

Yeah, who has got the time to waste on this?

[lavar78]

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Have = Present Tense of "Has"
Got = Past Tense of "Get"
Both "has" and "get" indicate possession.

You don't "have got" anything, that's stupid. First, you're using two adjacent verbs that mean practically the same thing, it adds redundancy. Secondly, one is present tense, the other is past tense. You don't mix tenses in the same sentence.

That's like saying "I travel traveresed on the street." OK... are you traveling? Or had you traversed? You can't use both.



"Got" is past tense, "have" is present tense, and they're both posessive verbs. You can't use them in the same sentence.



You have to be joking, I learned this in 3rd grade. Most people learn about past, present, and future conjugation. Colloquialisms rarely follow proper grammar structure, they make learning foreign languages difficult.

They keep things from you in third grade so your brain doesn't explode. Anyway, it's the very first definition in Dictionary.app:

Originally Posted by Dictionary.app

1 (also have got) possess, own, or hold : he had a new car and a boat | have you got a job yet? | I don't have that much money on me | he's got the equipment with him.

Here's the usage note:

USAGE 1 Have and have got: there is a great deal of debate on the difference between these two forms. A traditional view is that have got is chiefly British, but not correct in formal writing, while have is chiefly American. Actual usage is more complicated: have got is in fact also widely used in U.S. English. In both U.S. and British usage, have is more formal than have got, and it is more appropriate in writing to use constructions such as don't have (or do not have) rather than haven't got. See also usage at gotten

I'll leave the rest to Oisín.

[Salty]

I was hoping the irish people would win.

[olePigeon]

USAGE 1 Have and have got: there is a great deal of debate on the difference between these two forms. A traditional view is that have got is chiefly British, but not correct in formal writing, while have is chiefly American. Actual usage is more complicated: have got is in fact also widely used in U.S. English. In both U.S. and British usage, have is more formal than have got, and it is more appropriate in writing to use constructions such as don't have (or do not have) rather than haven't got. See also usage at gotten.

In formal writing it's incorrect. That would make it a colloquialism, which means it's wrong. It doesn't follow standard grammar.

[Kerrigan]

Usage dictates the rules of grammar.

So for instance,

bla bla bla bla bla bla

IBL

= correct MacNN grammar

[lavar78]

Originally Posted by olePigeon

In formal writing it's incorrect. That would make it a colloquialism, which means it's wrong. It doesn't follow standard grammar.

Apparently, you ignored the part where it said that's "a traditional view." There are other conflicting views. Sadly, there isn't a set of undisputed rules of grammar. (As an aside, do you really think the name of a TV talent show is formal writing?)

[rickey939]

"Quick Change" was incredible.