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Aug 23, 2006, 02:16 AM
 
... Tom Cruise to Paramount: You can't fire me! I quit!

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But of course the real reason is money. Here's an excerpt from the Wall Street Journal:

As Paramount prepared to release "M:I:III," the studio realized that female fans were falling by the wayside, apparently turned off by Mr. Cruise's behavior. Paramount attempted to pull the focus back on the movie by having Mr. Cruise perform stunts at multiple screenings around the world, including jumping out of helicopters and speeding on race boats.

Still, Mr. Redstone estimates that Mr. Cruise's behavior cost the movie between $100 million and $150 million in ticket sales.
     
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Using his great Scientology powers, he'll have to jump into Redstone's body and make him sign a new contract. That is big news.

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Aug 23, 2006, 07:39 AM
 
Finaly that insane jackass gets it
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Or maybe the movie just looked stupid. I saw MI:2, and that was horrible. The worst was the bike racing at the end, where the tires 'miraculously' changed from road tires, to offroad knobby tires, and back and forth. The plot was awful, the stunts were marginal, and overall I'd rather watch a few episodes of Dino-Riders.
     
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Aug 23, 2006, 08:55 AM
 
Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO
Finaly that insane jackass gets it
So what! there are more crazy actors out there, jackass yes, but he made this company BILLIONS and potentially billions more and now they are dumping him...ruthless and heartless is what Paramount is. Bad business practice also comes to mind.
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Aug 23, 2006, 08:59 AM
 
(un)Fortunately, in this second age of Hollywood, Actors aren't owned by Studios, Actors are free agents (with their agents) and someone else will pick up Cruise and stick him in another movie.
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First they cancel star trek, now they fire one of the few actors I respect. Wag of the finger on both accounts.
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Originally Posted by cjrivera
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Aug 23, 2006, 11:17 AM
 
Except for the special effects there is nothing interesting in Mission Impossible 3 as there was nothing interesting in Mission Impossible 2. If the second one made money it is because of the first one. Sometimes there should not be any second and third movie. It is not because one female said she was turned off by Cruise's behavior that it is so. Personally I do not care about it; none of my business it is his private life. I did not even read about it, there are more interesting things to read about.

Also, it just shows that when it comes to the studios money is more important that quality.
     
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Originally Posted by Dino-Rider
Or maybe the movie just looked stupid. I saw MI:2, and that was horrible. The worst was the bike racing at the end, where the tires 'miraculously' changed from road tires, to offroad knobby tires, and back and forth. The plot was awful, the stunts were marginal, and overall I'd rather watch a few episodes of Dino-Riders.

MI1 was overly complicated. MI2 was just really stupid action and for me one of the worst movies ever. Haven't seen MI3 yet.

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Originally Posted by Landos Mustache
Haven't seen MI3 yet.
So you are part of the reason why he got fired. Good job

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Aug 23, 2006, 11:47 AM
 
If I was Paramount, I'd dump his ass too. He's an embarrasment to the SAG.
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Aug 23, 2006, 12:23 PM
 
The LA Times has a pretty good take on it .... apparently talks had already broken down over money and they were headed toward an amicable "parting of the ways" until Redstone went public.
     
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Tom Cruise in a movie is a reason for me not to see it. He's just too damn irritating.
     
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Originally Posted by Landos Mustache
MI1 was overly complicated. MI2 was just really stupid action and for me one of the worst movies ever. Haven't seen MI3 yet.
Exactly. I think it's kinda dumb that Paramount is blaming Tom Cruise for them (paramount) producing crappy movies.
     
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Originally Posted by Dino-Rider
Exactly. I think it's kinda dumb that Paramount is blaming Tom Cruise for them (paramount) producing crappy movies.

Well they said they like him as an actor but his retarded behavior off screen is what is turning people away, not the movie itself.

Oh and... "As a teenager, Cruise planned on becoming a Roman Catholic priest." Guess he did the next best thing.

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First they cancel star trek, now they fire one of the few actors I respect. Wag of the finger on both accounts.
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I agree that Mission Impossible 2 was bad, but I actually liked MI3.... maybe I'm in the minority..
     
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Originally Posted by Kev052683
I agree that Mission Impossible 2 was bad, but I actually liked MI3.... maybe I'm in the minority..
I guess we'll have to file a minority report on you.
     
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I still haven't seen MI:3. I probably would have if it wasn't for him. I guess Paramount was correct.

I may still see it on DVD, but I am in no rush to do so.
     
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So if MI:3 had another actor in it they think more people would have gone? That's hard to believe. He IS the movie... saying they lost $100 million because of him is like you giving me $50 and I saying that you should have given me $100... hey! you just lost me $50!!!
     
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Who cares why Paramount dumped him? Its fully within their rights to do it, and they did it. There's no doubt his public actions have tarnished his movie career, whether or not you agree with his actions. Either way, he's got enough money and star power to do whatever he wants. Only now, it won't be with Paramount.

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He can act. I say this because I've seen him on screen (Last Samurai, for example) and thought highly of him. But it's obvious that it's been acting, because when he's not in a role, he's a royal, turbo, nucular, 'tard of the n'th degree. The fact that he has opinions, like his (stupid, mindless, neandertal, idiotic, etc.) idea about antidepressant medications and postpartum depression, is no problem. The idea that he might share them with others is no bid deal. But using his "market the damn movie, Tom" TV time to call ANYONE on the carpet for using medications to control postpartum depression is insane.

I lost a friend to postpartum depression-it's real, as are other forms of depression, and until Mr. I DON"T KNOW SH*T realizes this, he's a threat to the health of depressed people all over. Hey, maybe HE will get depressed over being canned! What a nicely ironic twist, eh?
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Originally Posted by Kev052683
I agree that Mission Impossible 2 was bad, but I actually liked MI3.... maybe I'm in the minority..
It's easily the best of the three IMO. It was basically Alias: The Movie, which is part of the reason I liked it.

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Originally Posted by stevesnj
So what! there are more crazy actors out there, jackass yes, but he made this company BILLIONS and potentially billions more and now they are dumping him...ruthless and heartless is what Paramount is. Bad business practice also comes to mind.
I'm not saying that JEST Tom Cruise is an insane jackass.
Alot of people in Hollywood are insane jackasses
People like insane jackasses
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Originally Posted by Kev052683
I agree that Mission Impossible 2 was bad, but I actually liked MI3.... maybe I'm in the minority..
I liked MI-3 too. Tom Cruise is still a tool, though, and counts as a mark against a movie in my book. (And he's not that good an actor. Not wretched, but hardly top-caliber.)
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Tom Cruises' best movie to date is still Legend, IMO.
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Tom Cruise's best movie is Magnolia. End of story.

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I'd vote for Rain Man, A Few Good Men or The Outsiders.

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I don't think he's a great actor. I don't think he's a terrible one, but I've never thought of him as that great. Then again I haven't seen Magnolia yet, and I liked him in Risky Business.
     
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Originally Posted by ghporter
He can act. I say this because I've seen him on screen (Last Samurai, for example) and thought highly of him. But it's obvious that it's been acting, because when he's not in a role, he's a royal, turbo, nucular, 'tard of the n'th degree. The fact that he has opinions, like his (stupid, mindless, neandertal, idiotic, etc.) idea about antidepressant medications and postpartum depression, is no problem. The idea that he might share them with others is no bid deal. But using his "market the damn movie, Tom" TV time to call ANYONE on the carpet for using medications to control postpartum depression is insane.

I lost a friend to postpartum depression-it's real, as are other forms of depression, and until Mr. I DON"T KNOW SH*T realizes this, he's a threat to the health of depressed people all over. Hey, maybe HE will get depressed over being canned! What a nicely ironic twist, eh?
I really don't see why he people call him nuts. All he said was people should quit taking drugs to try to solve all their problems, and instead get healthy... healthy body usually gives you a healthy mind.
     
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Originally Posted by Dino-Rider
I really don't see why he people call him nuts. All he said was people should quit taking drugs to try to solve all their problems, and instead get healthy... healthy body usually gives you a healthy mind.
And his advice would lead to many deaths.

Also, he jumps on couches on national TV.
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Originally Posted by Powerbook
You respect a brain-washed Scientology tool??? Way to go.
I think scientology is retarded and what he said couldn't be more wrong. However, I don't think if he didn't start the discussion / controversy about it, I would never have learned how much of a cult scientology really is.

Tom Cruise educates.

Furthermore, he actually had the balls to say some of the things he said in an "everything to lose" position. To my knowledge, none of his other scientology buddies have gone out and talked about it like he has. It was a refreshing change from the typical liberal crap I hear from Hollywood types.

Tom Cruise has confidence.

Furthermore, his antics did generate hype and interest. I know I was more interested in his movies because of it. He received front page news stories every week, he received his own South Park episode, he inspired a ton of YTMND sites and started new fads, he was the topic of discussion on many forums. He single-handedly generated more buzz around his movies by association than did the entire Paramount marketing staff with their multimillion dollar budget.

Tom Cruise is genius.

The fact that Paramount couldn't turn his actions into sales is their problem. Bad PR is good PR, right? He did everything he was asked to do and didn't compromise his morals or beliefs to do it. For that, I respect Tom Cruise even if I disagree with him. Which is more than I can say for Paramount.
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I really don't see why he people call him nuts. All he said was people should quit taking drugs to try to solve all their problems, and instead get healthy... healthy body usually gives you a healthy mind.
And his advice would lead to many deaths.
I would agree that medication is necessary for some, but I would agree moreso that many problems can be solved without it. Too many people look to drugs for a solution when they should be looking at what they are not doing right.
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Originally Posted by Naaaaak
I think scientology is retarded and what he said couldn't be more wrong. However, I don't think if he didn't start the discussion / controversy about it, I would never have learned how much of a cult scientology really is.

Tom Cruise educates.

Furthermore, he actually had the balls to say some of the things he said in an "everything to lose" position. To my knowledge, none of his other scientology buddies have gone out and talked about it like he has. It was a refreshing change from the typical liberal crap I hear from Hollywood types.

Tom Cruise has confidence.

Furthermore, his antics did generate hype and interest. I know I was more interested in his movies because of it. He received front page news stories every week, he received his own South Park episode, he inspired a ton of YTMND sites and started new fads, he was the topic of discussion on many forums. He single-handedly generated more buzz around his movies by association than did the entire Paramount marketing staff with their multimillion dollar budget.

Tom Cruise is genius.

The fact that Paramount couldn't turn his actions into sales is their problem. Bad PR is good PR, right? He did everything he was asked to do and didn't compromise his morals or beliefs to do it. For that, I respect Tom Cruise even if I disagree with him. Which is more than I can say for Paramount.
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Originally Posted by stevesnj
So what! there are more crazy actors out there, jackass yes, but he made this company BILLIONS and potentially billions more and now they are dumping him...ruthless and heartless is what Paramount is. Bad business practice also comes to mind.
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Originally Posted by Chuckit
And his advice would lead to many deaths.

Also, he jumps on couches on national TV.
Not really. I'd have to say out of all the people I know on anti depressants, NONE of them get a lot of exercise.
     
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Originally Posted by Ulrich Kinbote
Tom? Is that you?
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Originally Posted by Dino-Rider
Or maybe the movie just looked stupid. I saw MI:2, and that was horrible. The worst was the bike racing at the end, where the tires 'miraculously' changed from road tires, to offroad knobby tires, and back and forth. The plot was awful, the stunts were marginal, and overall I'd rather watch a few episodes of Dino-Riders.
Yeah, but MI:3 was actually good. MI:2, not so. MI:1 good.
     
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I hope Mel Gibson is available and interested in filling in for Tom.


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Originally Posted by Dino-Rider
HAhAhaaa

"come out of the closet, Tom"

"but... but I'm not in the closet..."
I'm going to get a 3'*5' poster of Tom Cruise from that southpark episode and put it up in my closet. Then get that sound effect "Tom Cruise trapped in the cloest" from "R Kelly" and rig it to play every time my clothes are moved out of the way.
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Originally Posted by Chuckit
Nah, Interview with the Vampire was so awesome, I had to cut my wrists twice!
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Originally Posted by Naaaaak
I'm going to get a 3'*5' poster of Tom Cruise from that southpark episode and put it up in my closet. Then get that sound effect "Tom Cruise trapped in the cloest" from "R Kelly" and rig it to play every time my clothes are moved out of the way.
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